Even if shadow dance allows you to use ambush while not stealthed, ambush is still an ability that requires stealth. Therefore ambush does not gain a damage bonus from lethality.

My simple question is this.

With 4 piece tier 10, I sometimes get 4 combo points right after a finisher, and find myself envenoming twice in rapid succession. Is it better to wait a couple of seconds and pool energy to ensure more envenom uptime, even if it means I wont be mutilating or using special attacks?

If so, how long should I wait? Do I want to wait until the envenom debuff is almost gone even if I become energy capped? Thank you in advance.

~Risu

@Risuchan:

You want to clip the buff unless you have a low amount of energy left. Whenever you risk energy capping, simply clip the buff. If you can wait for energy to regen a bit, do so. Energy capping is a bigger DPS loss than clipping so you want to avoid that.

I have a similar question but then regarding Combat; 4 piece T-10 gear, so second bonus set which has a chance of giving you 3 combo points after a finisher (which is Eviscerate); so should i still always use Eviscerate with five combo points, or use it at 4, 3, 2, or even one, effectively making the chance I get 3 bonus CP's each time, bigger, but of course often having 'smaller' finishers half the time?

I have a question about the envenom buff - in general I won't do anything less than a 4-pt envenom, but I was wondering, if my envenom buff goes off when I have 2 or 3 CP, would it be better to hit envenom, to bring the buff back up, or to have no buff for a couple seconds while I put an extra mutilate in?

And would it make a difference if I have 2 CP up or 3 CP at the time?

I think this answers your question as I had the very same idea a week ago (albeit not in this thread):

Finishers can proc weapon enchants and since the finisher only hits with your main-hand you should see a higher uptime on Berserking if you use it on your main-hand weapon.

Ah ok, if that's the case I'll swap the enchants then. Thanks for the confirmation!

My current rotation is 4pt+ envenom after a Deadly Poison tick (as much as possible) w/o letting my energy hit 100. And pooling energy to have the Envenom buff up as much as possible. Anything else i should know? I got the feeling i'm not getting as much out of my Rogue as i could.

for some time now ive been using a addon called trickortreat to show when someone casts tricks of the trade on me, it basicly just shows who cast it on me and gives a small sound warning, i found it quite helpful tho it broke about a week ago and since the author is no longer working on it im trying to find a substitute for it, something simple would be great.

and yes i know you can get other people to use tott macros that send you a whisper but when doing alot of random grps etc its quite random if ppl use it or not.

Try redownloading it. I use Trick or Treat and it was still working fine for me as of last night.

Might be a dumb question, but does /startattack reset your swing timer when macro'd into something like Mutilate or Sinister Strike? I've been using it like that for a while, someone mentioned a change but i haven't been able to find anything about it

There is no point timing envenom and DP ticks anymore, as long as you have 3/3 master poisoner. The timer you watch for most is the envenom buff. Do not envenom if your previous buff is still up, unless your energy is reaching 85-90. Keep Hfb up, stay expertise capped, that's about it.

Can anyone confirm this? I have noticed what appears to be a delay, but I am not sure if its just graphical or does it have an actual effect.

I'm wondering about the EP value for the Berserking enchant. Currently, both my PvE weapons at iLevel 245 (ToC25 ones), and I recently got the PvP daggers. Now naturally one will have Berserking meaning I can probably replace the 1.8 Gouge of the Frigid Heart with that, but the second PvP daggers needs a Weapon Chain - so what I am wondering is 'would it be worth taking a weapon of two tiers higher even if it lacks a Berserking enchant', also considering the decrease in DP procs since my second PvE weapon is the 1.4 speed Stygian Bladebreaker, and possible FA procs, but I just wanted to run an EP calculation taking the enchants into account too. Depending on the size of the difference in EP values I can check on if I should keep the 1.4 dagger based on the increased DP and FA procs.

/startattack does not reset your swing timer. You can easily verify this by getting a slow weapon and hitting a training dummy. The combatlog will show the autoattacks going off at the expected times no matter when you hit your ss/mutilate/whatever macro.

Sebastion is right. Assuming you have Twin Spike/Gouge of the Frigid Heart in your main hand, to equal [Webbed Death], you would need [Rib Spreader]. Even [Namlak's Supernumerary Sticker] and [Lightblade Rivener] in the offhand, and likely [Librarian's Paper Cutter] as well (can't test it in Aldriana's sheet, as there's no support for 1.3 speed weapons), are better than dual wielding the 1.8 daggers from ToC 25.

As Combat Rogue is using Shiv instead of Sinister Strike when DP is dropped below 5 worth to consider and which ICC Battle would involve this and why?

go to wowace.com

locate Ace 3, install that addon/framework

I have 4/5 T10 and [Heartpierce], I've been having some issues with energy capping and Envenom clipping. I know that it's better to clip envenom rather than cap your energy but with [Tricks of the Trade] on CD (2pc t10), 4/5 T10, [Heartpierce], and 2/5 [Relentless Strikes], I've come into situations where I pop off an Envenom and then have 4 cp up immediately and am getting close to the energy cap.

My question is would it be better to put up a [Rupture] instead of clipping Envenom If I take out the 2 points of [Fleet Footed] I have and put them into [Blood Spatter] as well replace [Glyph of Tricks of the Trade] with [Glyph of Rupture]?

If not how about taking the points out of [Fleet Footed] and putting 1 into [Vigor] as well as replacing [Glyph of Tricks of the Trade] with [Glyph of Vigor] to help with energy capping giving the energy an extra 2 seconds build up? I was also thinking about taking the other point of [Fleet Footed] out and putting it into [Turn the Tables] as I don’t think 1 point of [Fleet Footed] is worth it.
Thanks in advance.

Shiv should never be used in PvE, as any spec.

Fleet Footed is better than Blood Spatter, Glyph of TotT is much, much better than Glyph of Rupture for sporadic ruptures, and the average damage of your Envenom even with no buff is likely much higher than that of Rupture.

So no, you shouldn't use it.