I changed factions and I am an orc rogue now, I had 26 expertise before.
I have Bloodvenom Blade und Scourgeborn Waraxe, with the orcish racial I have got 26/31 expertise.
The Roguecraft Spreedsheet doesn't calculate with the orcish expertise bonus, would it make sense to change my exp/hit gems to arpen or hit (critcap)?

Version 1.5.1 of Aldriana's sheet models per-hand Expertise with racial bonuses.

That is not, strictly speaking, true. On the lich king fight I have two fast daggers in my inventory that I swap in to shiv either anasthetic poison on the enraged adds (if no hunter is available), or crippling poison for the Valkry in phase 2.

However you are absolutely correct that there is currently no reason to Shiv Deadly Poison onto a mob in PvE.

Both of those tasks are better accomplished by another class, and thus should not be the rogue's responsibility, though you are technically correct.

We tryed Professor Putricide today and wiped pretty hard
So I was wondering if the small Adds spawning resist crippling poison?
Slowing them with crippling poison would help my raid to get them down befor they reach their target, I guess.
Thanks in advance

Actually I have used shiv in pve as a combat rogue on target switching or movement fights. Lord Marrowgar is an easy example when he does the whirlwind and moving out of flames I pop a shiv on him when he passes close to me to refresh my 5 stack of deadly poison and my trinket charges if they get low (which can be done with just about any attack but since I am shiving to guarantee a deadly application before it falls that fixes trinket stack as well).

This probably should have been posted in the ICC Tips and Tricks thread, but to answer your question, no crippling will not help slow the adds. It is the person in the Abomination's job to slow the adds.

Regarding openers from stealth and in combat after a vanish for overkill as mutilate - is it generally a good idea to open with garotte for hfb activation but ignore 'opener' abilities at other times and just mutilate?

Hi,

I just got a question regarding 2pc T10 + Cultist's Bloodsoaked Spaulders + Geistlord's Punishment Sack vs. 4pc T10 (for Mutilate of course).
It confuses me that Mavanas says in his spreadsheet to go on 4pc T10, while Aldrianas spreadsheet tells me that the same gear just with 2pc + Cultist's + Geistlord's gives me 25 DPS more than 4pc T10.

So what's the perfect solution?

Hi.

I have a rogue alt (combat) with an average of iLvl 232 gear. I'm using Rawr to advise me on gear choices. I now have an issue evaluating the Onyxia Weapons (Raging Deathbringer/Empowered Deathbringer) because of 2 conflicting sources of info:

The pocket guide to WOTLK (Updated for 3.3) states: "Rough estimates show that the ilvl 245 weapons dropped from Onyxia (ie. Vis'kag, Deathbringer)"

However, when I input my char into Rawr (selecting common raid buffs), it puts the Deathbringer weapons all the way at the top (almost 1k DPS above iLvl 264 Frost Giant's Cleaver).

See this image:


What's happening here?

Hey!

'm not really a good macro guy... So 'm trying to adapt the macro i saw in the beginning of this post to my need

Original:
#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [help] [target=focus, help] [target=targettarget, help] Tricks of the Trade

My change:
#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [help] [modifier, target=focus, help] [target=targettarget, help] Tricks of the Trade

Its a simple change and I still gotta test it... but what i want is...

If my target is friendly ([help]), cast on him
If I have a focus setup and 'm pressing a modifier, be it Shift or Ctrl, cast on him ([modifier, target=focus, help])
If none of the above, cast on my target's target if he is friendly ([target=targettarget, help])

Will that work?

Thank you very much

Most likely, Athika, the proc modeling is incorrect. Too high a proc frequency seems to be the most likely issue. I would recommend switching to using either Aldriana or Vef's spreadsheets instead of using Rawr.

When you are mutilate/envenom spec and cannot garrote at the beginning of a fight, how do you get up HfB and SnD? Would you just mutilate then rupture/SnD with 2-3 CP?

Wait for your arms warrior to put up rend, any warrior to crit, a MM hunter to crit or a feral druid to put up Rake / Lacarate. If really none of those is available AND you can't open with a Garrote, yes, you'll have to use rupture. If I have to open with Mut (still having overkill buff up as I just got knocked out of stealth) I go Mut -> SnD -> [Ruthlessness Proc? Y: Rupture -> HfB; N: Mut -> Rupture -> HfB] -> [Ruthlessness Proc? Y: Envenom; N: Mut -> Envenom]

Just make sure SnD doesn't drop before you get to Envenom.

Yes Mutilate from stealth when not starting HfB. Garrote is higher DPE but only if you ignore CP gen and the damage implications of it.

Just getting back into the game. .
What's a straightforward Weapon swap - Shiv macro? ie: applying anesthetic poison
What's a decent "start attack" macro to bind to Mutilate or Sinister Strike? or is this needed?

For a "start attack" macro, simply do You might also want to add such a macro to FoK.

As for weapon swapping, I can't remember the exact code, but here's what you can try. Using Blizzard's equipment manager, create two sets - one with only your normal weapons (exclude everything else) and one with only your anesthetic poison weapon (again, exclude everything else). Then the macro will be something like this:
This will equip your OH with anesthetic when used with Shift key, and normal set otherwise. You'll have to Shiv manually, since swapping weapons triggers a GCD (I think).

(I haven't used weapon swap macros in a long time, so if anyone sees something wrong with the above - please correct me).

So I'm getting some conflicting results between the spreadsheets and the guides, specifically about the issue regarding which hand to put which weapon (fast/slow or slow/fast).

On the FAQ, it says to put the highest DPS weapon in the MH, but in two different spreadsheets I am being shown that the opposite is indeed the case:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2536315/Muti....3-mcninja.xls
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2536315/Rogu...3f-mcninja.xls

What am I doing wrong, or am I in a unique situation where lowdps/highdps is actually better?

/equipslot 17 <item>

Will equip the item in the OH. It'll trigger a GCD, so you need to Shiv manually.

When you put the [Unsharpened Ice Razor] into the mutilate sheet, you left it checked for both 1.4 and 1.8 speed weapons, just fixing it so that it is only listed as a 1.4 weapon increases the dps by about 240 dps, then putting them in the [Twin Spike] MH/[Unsharpened Ice Razor] OH, you gain another 9dps, for a total gain of about 250dps.

For the Rogue Simulation Spreadsheet, always double check which weapon the Poisons are going on in the DPS Strat sheet, just setting it correctly increased your reported DPS by about 0.5%.

Always double check your data entry if something isn't matching up to what has become standard practice.

Hey guys,
I am not a very experienced WoW rogue, however after reviewing the popular rogue combat build (20/51/0) I was somewhat inclined to transferring anywhere from 1-3 talent points from improved eviscerate/improved poison/ruthlessness over to blood spatter, or possibly vile poison, being that rupture is one of the most important finishers available to rogues, besides SnD of course. Any thoughts, refutes, or comments on this perspective will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Not sure where to ask this.

I am currently soloing a few level60 bosses. Great fun. I just did the Eranikus event in Moonglade solo.

My question is about hitrating and expertise. When fighting mobs 20 levels below you, your hitrating and expertise are a lot higher than your miss and the mob's dodge and parry ratings. So I would expect that to optimize dps, it would be smarter to use stats like agility and haste. But level-60 bosses are not true level-60 mobs. They are "skull-level" bosses. And at level-80, skull-level means their hit/miss/dodge/parry ratings are "as if 3 levels higher than you".

So I'm wondering, do level-60 skull-level bosses have upgraded combat ratings ? If so, it would make sense to use my regular gear with high expertise and hit. But if I won't miss and won't get dodged or parried anyway, I might switch gear.

Has anyone ever tested lower-level mobs ?