nosille

In Kara level gear with the badge Offhand and S1 Mainhand, I am killing most mobs in the duration of a Cheap Shot->Kidney Shot chain. I am having problems with Kidney Shot being on cooldown when I need it for the next mob.

 

Lord Xar

As has been noted numerous times, movement is playing a larger role in boss fights. How will this affect our already "lagging" dps vs. hunters/casters and such? We tend to shine with tank/spank fights so with less of those, should we really be defining our 'dps' with optimal conditions that only come about when pluto moves into capricon and its a fullmoon on every second thursday ---

so..

1. Will the uptick of boss fights that require movement infringe additionally in a negative light on our dps?

2. Should we define our dps, not on the very unlikely circumstances, or more of an average?

I just remember reading all these rogues waxing poetic how when they were dual glaived fighting brutallis, they had monster dps -- but when you place them in an any other boss, fight - rogues aren't #1. I only say this because being tops on one single target tank/spank fight does not define a damage dealer, or even two boss fights - for that matter.

 

Snix

Will the Rupture buff from the talents Bloodspatter (@ 2/2=20%) and Serrated Blades (@3/3=30%) stack?

If so what would the final percentage be, additive 50% or 56% if they are applied one on top of the other?

Or are they mutually exclusive?

 

• Vulajin

I don't have explicit proof, but it is expected that they stack in a fashion similar to that of Find Weakness / Surprise Attacks / etc., that is to say that they apply additively for a total 50% boost.

 

• Feist-Mok

Will allow you to use the same macro to set your focus w/ a right click.
Being able to override focus for ToT with a modifier is something I'm playing around to figure out, but would be really nice.

 

• Imiut

Is there any specific reason expertise for combat is now valued so much lower than agility? Last time I used Sp00n's addition to Vul's spreadsheet I had it on 1.84. Also, thanks for providing the hit values, these are a big help. I reckoned I was going mental when the figures I got were consistently higher than what was posted on page 113 of the WOTLK PVE discussion thread.

 

Darktangent

I got the impression that shadowpanther does not consider weapon dps and speed into his MAEP calculations. I could be wrong though. As for using a dagger OH, I got the impression that you lose dps versus having a sword equipped.

 

RedOtto

Because you talented fists and that gives a 5% crit increase at a guess

 

Mitey

I know these might have been answered in the locked thread, but I thought I'd ask them here for easy access purpose.

What are the yellow and poison hit caps where hit rating is worth less?

For combat, what weapon combinations are the best now? Is it sword/sword and fist/sword still? Are there others? What's not good?

Thanks!

 

Sparticus

I know that expertise is a more highly rated stat than hr (once the yellow and poison cap is met) Can someone explain why this is? Does expertise now help with % miss chance as well as dodge/parry?

 

Tinwhisker

You can find the hit caps here.

As for combat weapon selection, Fist/Dagger is good, Fist/Fist is good, Sword/Sword is good, and Fist/Sword (with 5/5 CQC and 4/5 in sword spec) is good too. Obviously the first two will leave more talent points open to you but the best advice is to use the best weapons that are available to you.

You're a lot of DPS, you know that? You wanna' earn 14 achievement points the hard way?

 

Playaskillz

I hope I'm posting this in the right place

The Hemo tool tip says "increasing the physical damage dealt to a target by up to..."

For other spells and abilities that "up to" relates to a coefficient doesn't it?
I don't have access to the spreadsheet because I'm at work right now, but I think the spreadsheet counts max hemo damage on each hit.

Does anyone have any idea about this? I don't even know how I could accurately test this. The same sizes would have to be huge to get accurate numbers...

Maybe I'm wrong and it means something else - ideas?

 

Fold

As I understand it expertise doesn't explicitly add +hit, but it does effectively because it's removing dodge & parry from the combat table.

 

drumbum

The difference is that expertise rating will help yellow damage since special attacks can still be dodged.

 

drumbum

Try not to read too much into tooltips because they often are misleading. However, the damage added by the Hemo debuff is affected by armor, which is likely the reason for that wording.

 

Bues

I was wondering if anyone could offer advice for my current mutilate spec: Mutilate 52/17/2
Armory Link

I've also tried out combat swords and done multiple 5 mans and get more dps with combat swords than mutilate spec. This is my first time I've played anything other than Combat swords (sub for pvp in TBC), so I was wondering I was using a wrong rotation or something else.

Rotation:
-Stack 3 Hunger for Blood
-Get SnD up
-Mutilate
-Envenom when SnD is about to run out
-Refresh Hunger for Blood when needed
- Mutilate

Again, this is my first time trying a mutilate build and this seemed like the right rotation, but I could be wrong.

 

• Feist-Mok

Drop Imp. S'n'D, 2 points in CQC, and 1 of your assasination points for 5 points in Relentless Strikes.

Pick up 5 points in Improved Poisons. Quick Reovery, Vigor, and Ruthlessness, and Master Poisoner are good spots to jack points from.

Turn the Tables is better than Master Poisoner, unless you don't run with a Paladin of just about any spec - pick one of the two, don't go partial on either.

The rotation is basically as you described, except rupturing when the option is there in between envenoms.

 

Kakon

Wondering how to bind TotT to Sinister Strike basicly I want it to work like this

If Tricks of the Trade is up
/cast [target=focus] Tricks of the Trade (also to make it to use it if focus=exisits, dunno how to do that, so its not constatly error messaging when I am soloing)

If Tricks of the Trade is on Cool Down
/cast Sinister Strike (on currently selected target)

Gonna use a simple macro and Grid to choose who my focus is, whether the main tank in the beginning of a boss fight then my rogue buddy and me casting it on eachother for dps, or a "oh shit that resto druid had to go bear for" on a bad trash pull so I need to put threat on him.

Hardest Part for me is that I want it on a single button mash, both abilities are on GCD, TotT is 15 energy, my SS currently 40.

Right now I have it so I focus a target, hit E to use my tricks and have DoTimer watching my CD, would just be nice fora macro so I dont have to have an extra bar on my screen. I just change it by using Grid focus=mouseover macro.

 

Bues

How is this build? No vigor though. 51/13/7

So when I have to refresh SnD, if rupture isn't up, that is when I use it? Otherwise if its up envenom?

 

Echophantom

No. You rupture when SnD doesn't need to be refreshed, but you're still at 5 combo points. More efficient use of the energy than Envenoming again.

EDIT: For the talent spec, I believe Precision gives you better damage than Imp SnD, since your durations should always be the full 21s.

 

Bues

Also Feist-Mok (or anyone else that is 80), since you're 80, have you raided at all? If yes, how does your damage compare to combat sword rogues?

 

Sarah

What is the expertise cap at lvl 80?

 

Darktangent

What is the top dps spec now? Shadowpanther has a 7/51/13 spec but I was thinking of something including lethality.

 

Echophantom

Bosses still have a ~6.5% chance to dodge attacks, so the cap itself is unchanged. However, the amount of expertise rating needed to get 1 expertise has changed.

32.78998947 * 25 ~= 820 expertise rating for a rogue with 0/2 Weapon Expertise
32.78998947 * 20 ~= 656 for 1/2 Weapon Expertise
32.78998947 * 15 ~= 492 for 2/2 Weapon Expertise

 

Ormack

Is Mongoose suffering the same dimnished effects post 70 that Crusader did post 60?