In terms of a tuning mechanic, I don't actually believe there is such a thing.

For example, it was believed Dodge and Parry were tuning mechanics simply because people were getting strange and different numbers from them. As it seemed to turn out, it was a misunderstanding of how the mechanics actually worked. Once it was realized that bosses cannot Dodge nor Parry during certain casts, the fluctuating numbers started to make sense.

Speaking of which, here's 14% for testing right there. Attack from the front and the crit cap is reduced another 14% (minus Expertise) for Parry.

If you got no other options, then sure.

ArP only pulls ahead with enough gear, and enough ArP stacking. Try using the Runestone/Greatness combo, then switch all gems to ArP and see if it's enough to push it over.

See I have most of the arp offpieces as well. I'm missing only a few. I may try runestone/greatness, because right now i'm at around 430 hit. It's a bit excessive :P

How accurate are the rawr modules for combat and mutilate?

I'm attempting to evaluate rogue recruits for both combat and mutilate.

I'm using the following setup:

Combat: CPG: SS, 5: SnD, 5: rupture, MH: Deadly, OH: Wound
Mutilate: CPG: Mut, 5: Envenom, 5: rupture, MH: Deadly, OH: Instant

Full Raid Buffs for both.

I then compare performance on actual boss fights to predicted rawr dps, as a percentage.

For example:

Rogue A1: Combat: Actual DPS: 5500 IC hard attempts, Rawr: 8200 - 67% predicted performance
Rogue A2: Combat: Actual DPS: 4300 IC med attempts, Rawr: 7100 - 60% predicted performance

Rogue B1: Mutilate: Actual DPS: 5100 IC hard attempts, Rawr: 6100 - 73% predicted performance
Rogue B2: Mutilate: Actual DPS: 3700 IC med attempts, Rawr: 5000 - 73% predicted performance

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My current raiding rogues are A1 and B1. I'm considering recruiting A2 and B2 for backup/bench spots and to gear them out. Rogue B2 performed just as well as B1, but A2 is subpar compared to A1, correct?

Obviously awareness, attendance, character, dedication, etc. apply. But assuming all those are fine, is this methodology a realistic way to evaluate rogue performance?

PS> hard attempt logs: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
med attempt logs: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

So, I'll level with you - my initial response to your question was "wait, there's a Rawr.Rogue module?" - which I suppose is sort of an answer in it's own right. The rogue community as a whole has not adopted Rawr as a significant tool in our theorycrafting arsenal - not that it doesn't get used, but it's certainly not the most widely used or most trusted tool available.

In terms of assessing rogues on IC - particularly IC Hard - raw DPS is really just a bad way of doing business. From a practical perspective on IC Hard, there's really only two things that matter from a rogue's perspective (beyond the obvious points about not dying and the like): DPS on Steelbreaker and interrupts on Stormcaller. DPS on Runemaster and Stormcaller is certainly admirable, but I'd take a rogue who did 5% more damage on Steelbreaker over one who was 5% higher on the other two phases any day of the week.

So, long story short: I suspect you're not going to find too many people in the rogue community willing to vouch for the accuracy of Rawr, and raw DPS on IC Hard is a relatively poor measure of assessment in the first place. So while the approach you propose is probably not the worst way of assessing rogue performance, there are clearly better ways as well.

Hello,

I'm a mutilate rogue, currently Raiding Ulduar 10man. (3.4k ap, 37% crit, exp capped)

For now I use Fury of the Five Flights + Mirror of Truth as trinkets; as I don't have "fast" access to any drop, I had the occasion to put my hands on a Darkmoon card: Greatness, so I purchased it.

Now, from the spreadsheet and from their EP value my two old trinkets are pretty near: any suggestion on what I should put on in combo with the drakmoon card?

Easy, use FoFF on the fights where you stay on your target all the time. Otherwise use MoT. I would personally use MoT all the time if their values are so close.

Your rogues shouldn't be mutilate, at least as long as you're still progressing in ulduar.

Although if your mutilate rogue is outperforming the combat ones, then you might have bigger problems than spreadsheets.

I think that's overstating the case pretty severely, honestly. Like, Combat is better for more fights in Ulduar, but Mutilate isn't too far behind on most fights and does win on some. So assuming access to all gear in the game, yes, most rogues should probably be combat, the reality of gearing is that for most guilds it makes sense to run at least 1 mutilate rogue.

So I Experimented a little bit with SimCraft and the result was that Mongoose (MH) Executioner (OH) is about 40-60DPS stronger than Dual Mongoose.



As you see Executioner has way more uptime in the Graph. Anybody has an how this comes?
And why does it show Mongoose_MH and Mongoose_OH?

edit:

did this with my own profile and with the default profile Rogue_T7_51_13_07.simcraft

edit2: I experimented a little bit more and i think simcraft doesn't works with 2 diffrent enchants.

Yes this makes me wondering to and i think this is where the 40-60dps come from. Dual Mongoose + Executioner.