I've modified the current Mutilate spreadsheet to give me some pawn values for all stats except MH and OH dps. Anyone know of a way I can find these EP vaules using aldriana's sheet?

Quick question :

I see according to the main chart after 3.1, that Agi is now less important than before and that Attack power is what to "gem" for if hit/exp capped.

Considering:

197 for agi and 16 agi for gem = 16 * 1.97 = 31.52 EP
1 for ap and 32 for AP gem = 32 EP

Since Agi gives Crit and AP, makes me wonder if Crit has lost its importance since AP hasnt.

Thanx for your time and replies

Its not that it hasn't lost its importance, its just that a significant portion of your damage comes from poison. Crit that you gain from agility does not affect your poison crit chance. Those EP values are based on BiS T7. Once rogues start getting the 4 piece bonus from T8 you will see agility gain a significant amount of EP value because of ruptures being able to crit.

Something to think about though, is that yes, you hit harder with your poisons while stacking AP, but (assuming you're Mutilate) stacking Agi gives you more Focused Attack Procs, which leads to more Envenoms, and more Envenom buff up time. Stacking Agi, speaking as somone who went from AP to Agi, gives you better rotation management. More crits equals more energy which leads to more finishers and less time hoping you'll get that 15 extra energy before your SnD/Rupture falls off. But that's my analysis.

On another note, considering the Engineering haste-to-gloves enchant, does it's EP increase if it is used in cooridation with other abilities? For example, I macro'd my glove enchant with my Envenom. That way, I'll get the increased speed whenever its up while my Envenom buff is up, meaning more poison procs.

I do it the exact same way because I'm lazy.

However, poisons are normalized to weapon speed now (DP aside), so the proc rate of IP or WP won't increase through the use of Accelerators.

If you can do the micromanagement, you would probably get more out of them if you time the activation with some trinket procs or Bloodlust.

In fact, their proc rate will increase. The ppm mechanics determine the proc chance based on the base speed of the weapon. However, as you gain additional haste (in any way) the proc chance does not change. So, the faster you hit, the more it will proc.

robfang hit the nail on the head. haste increases PPM by an amount proportionate to the value.

Apart from internal cooldown restrictions, I do not know about a PPM effect which does not benefit from haste. Can you clarify?

Afaik Seal of Command doesn't... but this info is from the Hyjal days...

Pretty sure most weapon enchants fall into this category.

Exactly. The base weapon speed. As in, not effected by haste PPM.