The links in the first post go to a 1x1 pixel image. I am assuming there is some problem with the forum server counting them as image instead of link.

Spent a quite a bit of time now lurking around in the sheet and this post, but I can't seem to find any info regarding deadly poison modeling in the Combat sheet. Would like to be able to play around with it a bit to see how the coeff buff changes things compared to the 3.0 sheets.

Right now the combat sheet assumes double wound poison and evisc over wound/DP MH/OH + envenom or?

Pretty sure it assumes deadly OH, and only allows you to select your MH poison, you can also select Evisc vs. Envenom.

Latest spreadsheat working out realy great, some tweaking to adapt to my current gear, nothing to hard/fancy though, great job Aldriana!

Got a question though, the only real "issue" I have with this spreadsheat; SnD Size, what is that? I for example got ~3,9 and ~4,3 (Depending on if I took 5p in RS, or 2p in RS and 3p in Vile Poison).

The cycle being modeled is Xs5r5e, where X is calculated to give you one second overlap on slice and dice. Thus, that's the average size SnD you should be using for a stable cycle - If it's, say, 3.9, that means you will usually be doing 4 point SnD but you might be able to get away with a 3-point every once in a while.

At some point I'll look into adding Xs5rYe cycles, where X is the minimal SnD longer than your rupture length and Y is the largest Eviscerate you can squeeze in - this may or may not be superior.

Or maybe something went wrong while uploading.
Take a look at the file URLs, a "/" cannot be part of a file name, therefore it wants to only download mutilate.xls resp. combat.xls.

http://elitistjerks.com/attachments/f78/a4963d1239749087-combat_mutilate_spreadsheets_updated_3_1/combat.xls
http://elitistjerks.com/attachments/f78/a4964d1239749105-combat_mutilate_spreadsheets_updated_3_1/mutilate.xls


Could be as simple as too long as a file name.

Just want to say great work on the spreadsheets!

Also, what is the final consensus on the matter of 32 AP vs 16 agility for combat? It seems it keeps going back and forth. Lately there have been simcraft numbers that concluded 32 AP was superior, yet Aldriana uses 16 agi in his default spreadsheet setup. Is the difference so minimal that it comes down to preference?

The difference is relatively minimal, such that I consider the defensive stats from agility to be worthwhile. Also, it's worth noting that the instant you get 4/5 T8, Agi bumps ahead of AP even from a purely offensive perspective.

Aldriana has historically favored Agi in his default setups for a variety of reasons. Plugging in AP gems in place of agi on these newest sheets does show a reasonable DPS gain for me however.

Not sure what it is, but for some reason when I try to download your spreadsheet by clicking on it, I am redirected to a webpage with the title of the spreadsheet and a 1x1 pixel gif. Vulajin's loads fine.

Edit: If this was mentioned and I didn't notice it, I apologize.

Yea Arekesusangu, nobody seems to be able to download it, but from the alternative hosting provided by Ald it is all file, spreadsheets are great and thanks Ald!

Just a question, is there a way to get EP values from the mutilate/combat spreadsheet? Being able to fast value an item in a hurry helps a lot

Great, thanks, no need of fancy UI, just mention on the front page of the EP values location and that's enough

Is the Mutilate sheet assuming Mutilate, HFB, and Rupture glyphs? I only ask since there is a glyph page for Combat.

Yes. If you have a burning urge to change that, PM me and I'll tell you what lines you need to edit.

I was thinking it might have an effect on upgrades for now, but I'm sure someone on my server will learn those two glyphs some time soon.

I was also wondering if murder was still disabled since the talent works against a good amount of the bosses in Ulduar.

Also noticed Guise of the Midgard Serpent came with a 1 in it for the T7 bonus just in case anyone wonders why breaking their set bonus for it isn't lowering the estimated dps.

Everyone who has problems downloading the sheet:
replacing combat.xls -> Combat.xls and mutilate.xls -> Mutilate.xls worked


http://elitistjerks.com/attachments/...3_1/combat.xls

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http://elitistjerks.com/attachments/...s_updated_3_1/Combat.xls

I had the same issues. Saytr's links worked, however. Thanks!

While working with the mutilate spreadsheet, I am noticing that even going down to 18 or so expertise, but stacking agi/ap to increase damage in the spreadsheet. Also, it appears on the initial settings that the expertise is not capped. Am I reading this right, or should I be replacing expertise gems.

As far as I know the spreadsheets always will say that purely because it goes of the average case and doesn't account for the dropping of SnD because an Envenom was dodged.

fully raid buffed, I seem to have more than enough energy to refresh slice and dice, long before it would come to the point where missing an envenom would have it drop. So I think I will switch out a few gems tonight.

Quick question about glyphs... where did you get your values from? I see they are hardcoded in the glyph worksheet. I am only asking because i was trying to do my own theorycrafting on them myself and would like to compare notes if possible.

BTW thanks for doing this!

Has anyone tried using expose armor instead of evis on combat dummies as combat? When I attempted to use it I got an increase in dps from 3k to roughly 3.2k. I understand that the amount of time I would need to spent on the dummy to discount variance is rather long, hence I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced the same results.