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Old 05/27/09, 11:20 AM   #721
Xaoc
Piston Honda
 
Orc Rogue
 
Eitrigg
That was before Aldriana added the newer UI, back when it was simply add a '1' for equipping an item. With the new UI, there is some back code that has the socket bonus inactive until you have a matching gem in the socket.

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Old 05/27/09, 11:27 AM   #722
Cheeseus
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Rogue
 
Deathwing
Oh, that's a nice feature!

That'll make my ilvl 232 updates easier to understand

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Old 05/27/09, 1:07 PM   #723
jjj
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by Farz View Post
I read that Dark Matter wasn't fully modeled in the spreadsheets because of the lack of informations about it.
I wonder if Aldriana got the info needed and the time to model it, because to me, it appears to be the BiS mutilate trinket, but i'm wondering if i should pair it with the Blood of Old God or Mjolnir Runestone.
I could be going off of old information here, but I think there is some difficulty in modeling Dark Matter, because with BiS gear I believe there is an issue with some crit being pushed off of the hit table.

Last edited by jjj : 05/27/09 at 1:12 PM.

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Old 05/27/09, 6:03 PM   #724
Aarcani
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Rogue
 
Hydraxis
How do you add Enchanted Tear? I've unhidden the gem sheet and inserted a new row under the other prismatics and entered the stats, but it doesn't show up in the drop down box. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.

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Old 05/27/09, 6:47 PM   #725
Mavanas
Great Tiger
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by Aarcani View Post
How do you add Enchanted Tear? I've unhidden the gem sheet and inserted a new row under the other prismatics and entered the stats, but it doesn't show up in the drop down box. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
Do not enter your extra entry as last row, insert it in the middle. That way you will not run into a problem of range definition.

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Old 05/27/09, 7:16 PM   #726
TPoff
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Tichondrius
Why is Norgannon not modeled?

I am currently wearing the Mark of Norgannon and Mirror of Truth (no other options at this point).

I do finally have the Nobles deck to get Greatness and just waiting for the faire.

My question was why do the spreadsheets not model Norgannon? Is it that bad? Ultimately, I want to have the Pyrite Infuser (my hit is low) and Greatness.

Short term, I need to figure out which trinket to replace with Greatness.

Long term, I am considering swapping in Norgannon for fights where activate trinkets are better. However, I need some help from you all on the validity of using it. Adrianna or others, do you have an opinion on the matter or have input on how to model its effectiveness?

FYI, I am Mutilate spec and I don't plan on changing for awhile. Thanks.

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Old 05/27/09, 7:27 PM   #727
chalon
Founder of the Chalonverse
 
Chalon
Night Elf Rogue
 
No WoW Account
Yes, Norgannon is not a good trinket choice, which is why it's not listed in the spreadsheet. You should run Greatness and Mirror of Truth until you get another trinket.

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Old 05/28/09, 4:12 AM   #728
stabbarella
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Sisters of Elune
For some reason when I edit the gem section (of the mut sheet on page 1) it doesn't change my dps, no matter if I put faux gems in and check them off (set them to 1) Is the sheet assuming which gems I'm using in the dps calc, and the gem section is just to make sure I've counted properly?

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Old 05/28/09, 7:13 AM   #729
Maltese
Von Kaiser
 
Maltese's Avatar
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Azjol-Nerub
Where are you putting the "1" on the sheet? You should be putting the 1 for equipped in the red, yellow, or blue columns instead of the equiped column.

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Old 05/28/09, 9:51 AM   #730
stabbarella
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Sisters of Elune
Nevermind I figured out how it is working. I was enabling/disabling gems in the RYB columns in the same manner as the equipment column, so I get it now. The RYB is indeed just to make sure I have a proper list, not a list to choose from. It was indeed tool late.

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Old 05/28/09, 11:35 AM   #731
Kryphtos
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Khaz Modan
I still can't get the gems (on the bottom) work properly, to affect the DPS at the top of Sheet 1 (Gear).

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Old 05/29/09, 11:46 AM   #732
Infuria
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by Kryphtos View Post
I still can't get the gems (on the bottom) work properly, to affect the DPS at the top of Sheet 1 (Gear).
Here's what you need to do.

-Delete every gem that you currently have in there.
-Go top to bottom from your gear, and input the gems exactly as they are. This means that if you use, say, a red gem in a blue slot, put on the gem listing: Delicate Scarlet Ruby, 16 agi, BLUE (a 1 in the blue column).
-After doing all of the above, it's impossible to get the error message if you input them correctly. Just reset them & re-enter.

Final step:

-If you have any socket bonuses you are NOT receiving, adjust the row of the item to show the correct stats.

For example, based on your current gear (Assuming Armory is accurate for you.)

There are three items for you on which you do not meet the socket bonus. Gloves of the Stonereaper, Jorach's Croc Belt, T7.5 Legs.

Gloves example: Based on your current gemming, your gloves should show as 77 agility, NOT 81. The sheet assumes you meet socket bonuses. The gem that corresponds to these, by your setup, should be:

Delicate Scarlet Ruby ---- 16 agi ---- YELLOW

Please PM me if you'd like any further assistance.

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Old 05/29/09, 4:42 PM   #733
evoslayer
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Rogue
 
Azjol-Nerub
The Mutilate Sheet doesn't seem to have been updated since the buff to ten man hard mode weapons, is there any plan in the works to do this? Can it be updated manually?

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Old 05/29/09, 7:43 PM   #734
• Aldriana
Mike Tyson
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Doomhammer
Updated combat sheet posted. Should have all the new items + item changes in it, as well as some modeling tweaks and buff selections. As usual, there may be bugs, so let me know if you find any.

Edit: I should probably add that Dark Matter doesn't take into account either crit capping or the synergy with other trinkets; doing so is somewhat beyond what's easily possible in the current format.

Last edited by Aldriana : 05/29/09 at 7:49 PM.

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