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Old 05/11/11, 4:38 AM   #166
SentinelBorg
Don Flamenco
 
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Tauren Shaman
 
Blackrock (EU)
Originally Posted by Ruga View Post
Quite a "big" change in the new PTR notes:



Source: MMO-Champion - Patch 4.2 PTR Notes - May 10th Update

I still have to log on PTR to confrim this myself.
Taking the numbers of my last Sinestra kill with 44% Mastery and 30% critical hits as an example, this would result in an around 35% nerf to the proc with current heroic tier gear.

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Old 05/11/11, 1:06 PM   #167
Volti
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Troll Shaman
 
Destromath (EU)
I don't really get why they are changing the DMC to be a right out bad choice, instead of changing its mechanic. I would imagine it should be possible (for them) to cap the damage output an item such as this is able to produce. Why not cap it at the values it is currently doing with heroic or half-heroic gear? That way, it would still be a decent choice for people that start to raid after 4.2 hits, and it would gradually loose its value as you acquire more and more Firelands gear.

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Old 05/11/11, 2:05 PM   #168
Quirk
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Blackrock
The DMC:H change is targeted specifically toward survival (most play MM now, anyway) hunters and enhancement shamans (us) who are getting better gear - more mastery and crit rating - which causes a significant and unintentionally high value for this particular trinket. It's scaling factor would last until near end-game into the next raiding tier, and it's contribution to our overall damage is higher than necessary, to the point of it being a necessary gear element for raiding viability.

It's unfortunate, but it was to be expected. We will likely (hopefully) be compensated in some form or fashion.

I haven't tested it yet, myself, but I'm curious to know whether the 40% damage 'buff' to the proc damage is factored on the same table as our mastery bonus. If it is that would mean I'd be losing the 47% buff from mastery but gaining 40% back - making a base damage difference of 7% - but removing the critical procs is the real loss. As of right now, I get about a 50/50 split between non-crit and crit damage. That would translate to a ~25% loss, coupled with the 7% from mastery nerf (considering the 40% buff is on the same modifier as mastery) makes it a ~32% proc damage nerf. Simulated values for me would give a ~300 DPS loss overall, or a 1.2% overall DPS loss... I'm not going to throw a fit over 1.2%. We saw it coming.

Now, let's keep refreshing for more notes that pertain to us.

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Old 05/11/11, 5:04 PM   #169
Cadeym
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Draenei Shaman
 
Shadowsong (EU)
This might seems like a noob question, but I've been looking around and every site say we need 17% hit (for the spell), But I haven't seen any ench with 17% hit. how important is that?

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Old 05/11/11, 5:08 PM   #170
Rouncer
Deeper Shade of Blue
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Cadeym View Post
This might seems like a noob question, but I've been looking around and every site say we need 17% hit (for the spell), But I haven't seen any ench with 17% hit. how important is that?
Wind Shear no longer misses. Hit rating up to the spell hit cap is our most valuable stat after agility, hit rating after the spell hit cap isn't very good at all. Meaning it's worth getting as close to 17% as you can without going over.

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Old 05/12/11, 8:12 AM   #171
Staticus
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Draenei Shaman
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by Quirk View Post
I haven't tested it yet, myself, but I'm curious to know whether the 40% damage 'buff' to the proc damage is factored on the same table as our mastery bonus. If it is that would mean I'd be losing the 47% buff from mastery but gaining 40% back - making a base damage difference of 7% - but removing the critical procs is the real loss.
That doesn't include the 3% damage buff we get from elemental precision (which presumably won't affect the trinket anymore either), so the nerf will be a little bigger for those of us that use it. Either way it'd be interesting to see how it compares to the current crop of trinkets (particularly the HC essence of the cyclone) with the nerf, in case one of those becomes more viable when 4.2 hits.

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Old 05/12/11, 11:37 AM   #172
Quirk
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Staticus View Post
That doesn't include the 3% damage buff we get from elemental precision (which presumably won't affect the trinket anymore either)
You're absolutly right. I neglected to include that into the figures. Even still, that's the difference of ~0.01% total DPS loss, bringing the maximum simulated DPS loss from trinket nerf to ~1.3% of total DPS. I'm still not concerned.

I'm more bummed about the probability of them not upgrading engineer helms / alchemy trinkets / other profession-specific perks (aside flat stat gains). May have to drop my newly learned engineering for blacksmithing.

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Old 05/12/11, 2:30 PM   #173
Rouncer
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Reports are in that Hungerer has a different tooltip for enhancers stating that it provides the haste buff when Shamanistic Rage is activated. Haste is still really bad so doesn't matter much but at least it shows they didn't forget about us completely.

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Old 05/14/11, 10:55 PM   #174
ziff
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Orc Shaman
 
Feathermoon
Originally Posted by Quirk View Post
I haven't tested it yet, myself, but I'm curious to know whether the 40% damage 'buff' to the proc damage is factored on the same table as our mastery bonus. If it is that would mean I'd be losing the 47% buff from mastery but gaining 40% back - making a base damage difference of 7% - but removing the critical procs is the real loss. As of right now, I get about a 50/50 split between non-crit and crit damage. That would translate to a ~25% loss, coupled with the 7% from mastery nerf (considering the 40% buff is on the same modifier as mastery) makes it a ~32% proc damage nerf. Simulated values for me would give a ~300 DPS loss overall, or a 1.2% overall DPS loss... I'm not going to throw a fit over 1.2%. We saw it coming.

Now, let's keep refreshing for more notes that pertain to us.
I haven't tested this on the PTR yet either, but along with no longer getting the buff from Elemental Precision, I'm assuming the trinket also no longer gets effected by the 3% damage buff from BM hunters/Ret Pallies/Arcane Mages. I'm also assuming the trinket no longer gets effect by the 8% spell damage debuff.

I did a quick run in EnhSim with the 40% damage boost, removing the ability to crit and removing all the buffs that effected the trinket. Using the default config.txt, the trinket went from 885 dps and 3.84% of overall damage to 536 dps and 2.37% of overall damage. From looking at the sim, it's a pretty effective nerf of that trinket.

I definitely agree with you that this nerf was coming, DMC:H was a perfect trinket for us and it was going to be hard to replace that trinket as our mastery increased over tier 12 and 13. The only part of this that is disappointing to me is that this is happening right when 4.2 drops. We are already trailing most dps specs in high-end PvE and seeing us get a 1-2% dps nerf out of the gate isn't exactly what I was hoping to see from 4.2. Hopefully we get some kind of mechanic tweaks in 4.2, but with it being so late in the cycle for 4.2 I'm not keeping my hopes up.

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Old 05/15/11, 3:05 PM   #175
Græyback
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Draenei Shaman
 
Antonidas (EU)
DMC:hurricane

Hey,

being on the ptr an reviewed the stats of DMC: hurricane. On live I have 43% mastery and the dmg tool-tip says 7389 nature dmg. Logging onto ptr tells me that there might be a bug to that card? It's no longer able to crit but ist still benefits from mastery AND the 40% overall buff. The card deals 10345 nature dmg according the tool-tip.

I removed some of my mastery gear and the dmg of that card doped likewise. That may be a tool-tip error but I'm going to test that soon by punishing a dummy.

Last edited by Græyback : 05/17/11 at 2:59 PM.

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Old 05/20/11, 4:04 PM   #176
ticksmas
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Night Elf Druid
 
Gurubashi
Flame Shock + Talent + Glyph

Hello all... I have a doubt.

If I change the points of Call of Flame to Reverberation and, change the Glyph of Windfury Weapon to Glyph of Flame Shock? With this, I can use Unleash Elements, followed by a Flame Shock, and then, use 2 Earth Shocks (instead of 1) before the next Unleash Elements, followed by a Flame Shock.

I would like you to opine about this. In single target.

PS.: Sry for the bad English, I'm starting with this!

Best regards!

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Old 05/20/11, 8:58 PM   #177
Deztroer
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Bleeding Hollow
Hey, Im not a big stats guy and kind of rely on EJ to figure out my rotation for me (Thanks) so i dont understand the why behind most stats. I tried that Enhsim and inputed the rotation it suggested here and got around 100 dps more by putting ss as second on the priority list and was just curious as to why this would be the case?

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Old 05/22/11, 3:09 PM   #178
Shokolate
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Doomhammer
@Ticksmas I tried all of these suggestions with my gear setup and normal rotation. I found that I received ~600 dps loss on EnhSim (sim time 1000hrs). #1, I don't see the purpose in glyphing the for flame shock when UE CD is 15 seconds, and Flame shock last ~17 seconds. Second, with higher ilvl gear, you're more likely to be GCD semi-locked and won't have the time to put in that extra ES. Third, the Call of Flame talents adds a significant amount to our dps, including the applied DoT, so I don't see reverberation ever being more viable than it.

@Dextroer I experienced a 100 dps loss by putting SS after LL in my priorities. To help resolve the issue, could you post your EnhSim config and output files? You will see how to do this by looking in previous posts.

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Old 05/22/11, 7:40 PM   #179
Deztroer
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Tauren Shaman
 
Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by Shokolate View Post
@Dextroer I experienced a 100 dps loss by putting SS after LL in my priorities. To help resolve the issue, could you post your EnhSim config and output files? You will see how to do this by looking in previous posts.
Im not very good with enh sim and have probably done something wrong



LL Before SS
### Saved by v2.4.4 of EnhSimGUI

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simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         1
combat_length_rng_factor        0
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1
cast_sr_on_cooldown             1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
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ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise_rating             30
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_mastery_rating               30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20
ep_intellect                    30
ep_agility                      30
ep_strength                     30

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
use_bloodlust                   1
always_bloodlust_wolves         0
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left   2
cast_searing_only_if_ticks_left 1
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000
use_potion_before_combat        0
necrotic_touch                  0
necrotic_touch_heroic           0

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -
ring_proc                       -
weapon_set_proc                 -

rotation_priority_count         9
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rotation_priority2              LL
rotation_priority3              FS_UEF
rotation_priority4              MW5_LB
rotation_priority5              UE
rotation_priority6              SS
rotation_priority7              ES
rotation_priority8              SW
rotation_priority9              ST

aoe_rotation_priority_count     0

fight_name                      
miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

additional_targets              0
additional_target_percent       0.0
additional_target_level         0

armor_debuff                    0/12.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                0/20.0
crit_chance_buff                0/5.0
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/10.0
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/8.0
spellpower_buff                 0/10.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff           0/178
mana_buff                       0/5401
mana_regen_buff                 0/326

replenishment                   0
water_shield                    0
mixology                        0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -
profession_buff                 -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.60
mh_dps                          462.4
oh_dps                          462.4
mh_crit                         25.70
oh_crit                         25.70
mh_hit                          20.28
oh_hit                          20.28
mh_expertise_rating             429
oh_expertise_rating             429
ap                              11356
melee_haste                     2.56
str                             154
agi                             4920
int                             156
spi                             178
mastery_rating                  1482
spellpower                      6871
spell_crit                      10.08
spell_hit                       16.94
spell_haste                     2.56
max_mana                        25490
mp5                             1171

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      landslide
oh_enchant                      landslide

mh_weapon                       fist
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        darkmoon_card_hurricane
trinket2                        fluid_death

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         68778

glyph_prime1                    lava_lash
glyph_prime2                    stormstrike
glyph_prime3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_major1                    lightning_shield
glyph_major2                    -
glyph_major3                    -

armor_type_bonus                0

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elemental_weapons               2/2
focused_strikes                 3/3
improved_shields                2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
flurry                          3/3
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searing_flames                  3/3
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shamanistic_rage                1/1
unleashed_rage                  2/2
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maelstrom_weapon                3/3

convection                      0/2
concussion                      2/3
call_of_flame                   2/2
reverberation                   0/2
elemental_precision             3/3
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_oath                  0/2
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
elemental_mastery               0/1
feedback                        0/3
lava_surge                      0/2
EnhSim version 2.4.4

................................................................................

MH:
miss                136821         6.73%
dodge               3530           0.17%
glancing            487765         24.00%
hit                 799990         39.37%
crit                604060         29.72%
average ap          13147.23       
clip                0              0.00%
reset               0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.51%
procs/swings        15.55%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               1901           0.17%
hit                 760161         67.15%
crit                369910         32.68%
average ap          13152.09       

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               686            0.17%
hit                 265865         67.51%
crit                127266         32.32%
average ap          13134.83       

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               425            0.19%
hit                 153172         67.13%
crit                74577          32.68%
average ap          13093.19       

OH:
miss                136621         6.72%
dodge               3477           0.17%
glancing            488365         24.03%
hit                 798926         39.31%
crit                604777         29.76%
average ap          13137.45       
clip                0              0.00%
reset               0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                1463           0.06%
hit                 2263688        89.84%
crit                254407         10.10%
cooldown            111517         4.24%
average sp          8902.43        

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               630            0.16%
hit                 263345         66.99%
crit                129156         32.85%
average ap          13179.05       

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                105            0.05%
hit                 205075         89.88%
crit                22994          10.08%
average sp          8875.36        

Earth Shock:
miss                198            0.06%
hit                 174588         54.84%
crit                143562         45.10%
average sp          8893.66        

Flame Shock:
miss                93             0.06%
hit                 145962         89.89%
crit                16322          10.05%
average sp          8935.95        
dots hit            867288         89.96%
dots crit           96777          10.04%
average dot sp      8953.25        

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               643            0.19%
hit                 233843         67.36%
crit                112663         32.45%
average ap          13148.38       

Lightning Bolt:
miss                290            0.06%
hit                 252240         55.32%
crit                203444         44.62%
average sp          8930.02        

Lightning Shield:
miss                269            0.05%
hit                 282182         55.33%
crit                227571         44.62%
average sp          8928.81        

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               13262          0.94%
glancing            339116         23.95%
hit                 1021066        72.12%
crit                42308          2.99%
average ap          13321.37       

Searing Totem:
miss                1289           0.06%
hit                 1929318        89.86%
crit                216483         10.08%
average sp          8900.15        

Searing Flames:
hit                 788530         89.92%
crit                88354          10.08%
average sp          8895.91        

Trinket1 Damage:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 175708         67.21%
crit                85722          32.79%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 43.63
efficiency          87.09%

flurry uptime                      77.27%
elemental devastation uptime       85.53%

stormstrike debuff uptime          98.75%
flame shock uptime                 75.51%
lightning shield uptime            100.00%
searing totem uptime               99.08%
searing flame uptime               92.34%
UW Windfury uptime                 19.71%
UW Flametongue uptime              30.38%

mh enchant uptime                  38.56%
oh enchant uptime                  31.54%
racial uptime                      15.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 84.13     33.38%
replenishment       0.00      0.00%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
primal wisdom       167.92    66.62%
shamanistic rage    0.00      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2532.80   15.06%    67.74
windfury            1850.41   11%       6.29
flametongue         1351.31   8.03%     41.99
searing flames      501.79    2.98%     14.61
stormstrike         1017.80   6.05%     6.56      51.26     22.59%
lava lash           2097.58   12.47%    5.79      22.59     9.95%
searing totem       1722.52   10.24%    1.16      7.93      3.50%
earth shock         712.23    4.23%     5.31      93.24     41.08%
flame shock         798.07    4.74%     2.71      44.91     19.79%
  direct damage     226.60    28.39%    2.71
  dot tick          571.47    71.61%    16.07
lightning bolt      1666.91   9.91%     7.60      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    765.95    4.55%     0.20      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       363.04    2.16%     0.60      7.03      3.10%
unleashed elements  741.98    4.41%     3.80      25.99     11.45%
  MH Windfury       270.85    36.5%     3.80
  OH Flametongue    471.13    63.5%     3.80
Trinket1            698.58    4.15%     4.36

DPS                 16820.95
MPS                 226.97
MP2min              27236.13
MRPS                1031.55
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 4.34s
simulation speed: 830066x
SS Before LL

### Saved by v2.4.4 of EnhSimGUI

config_version                  2.4.4
simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         1
combat_length_rng_factor        0
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1
cast_sr_on_cooldown             1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise_rating             30
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_mastery_rating               30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20
ep_intellect                    30
ep_agility                      30
ep_strength                     30

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oh_auto_attack                  1
use_bloodlust                   1
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cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left   2
cast_searing_only_if_ticks_left 1
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000
use_potion_before_combat        0
necrotic_touch                  0
necrotic_touch_heroic           0

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -
ring_proc                       -
weapon_set_proc                 -

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rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              LL
rotation_priority4              FS_UEF
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rotation_priority6              UE
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rotation_priority8              SW
rotation_priority9              ST

aoe_rotation_priority_count     0

fight_name                      
miss                            8.0
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glancing                        24.0
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spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

additional_targets              0
additional_target_percent       0.0
additional_target_level         0

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melee_haste_buff                0/20.0
crit_chance_buff                0/5.0
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/10.0
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
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percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff           0/178
mana_buff                       0/5401
mana_regen_buff                 0/326

replenishment                   0
water_shield                    0
mixology                        0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -
profession_buff                 -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.60
mh_dps                          462.4
oh_dps                          462.4
mh_crit                         25.70
oh_crit                         25.70
mh_hit                          20.28
oh_hit                          20.28
mh_expertise_rating             429
oh_expertise_rating             429
ap                              11356
melee_haste                     2.56
str                             154
agi                             4920
int                             156
spi                             178
mastery_rating                  1482
spellpower                      6871
spell_crit                      10.08
spell_hit                       16.94
spell_haste                     2.56
max_mana                        25490
mp5                             1171

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      landslide
oh_enchant                      landslide

mh_weapon                       fist
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        darkmoon_card_hurricane
trinket2                        fluid_death

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         68778

glyph_prime1                    lava_lash
glyph_prime2                    stormstrike
glyph_prime3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_major1                    lightning_shield
glyph_major2                    -
glyph_major3                    -

armor_type_bonus                0

primary_talent                  enhancement
elemental_weapons               2/2
focused_strikes                 3/3
improved_shields                2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
flurry                          3/3
static_shock                    3/3
searing_flames                  3/3
frozen_power                    0/2
shamanistic_rage                1/1
unleashed_rage                  2/2
improved_lava_lash              2/2
maelstrom_weapon                3/3

convection                      0/2
concussion                      2/3
call_of_flame                   2/2
reverberation                   0/2
elemental_precision             3/3
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_oath                  0/2
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
elemental_mastery               0/1
feedback                        0/3
lava_surge                      0/2
EnhSim version 2.4.4

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MH:
miss                136129         6.71%
dodge               3424           0.17%
glancing            485523         23.95%
hit                 796373         39.28%
crit                606000         29.89%
average ap          13157.39       
clip                0              0.00%
reset               0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.48%
procs/swings        15.53%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               1958           0.17%
hit                 769056         67.12%
crit                374764         32.71%
average ap          13157.38       

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               749            0.17%
hit                 290074         67.30%
crit                140220         32.53%
average ap          13124.42       

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               338            0.15%
hit                 147677         67.02%
crit                72327          32.82%
average ap          13119.34       

OH:
miss                135884         6.70%
dodge               3474           0.17%
glancing            486428         23.99%
hit                 797770         39.35%
crit                603893         29.79%
average ap          13147.60       
clip                0              0.00%
reset               0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                1498           0.06%
hit                 2287425        89.88%
crit                256142         10.06%
cooldown            111092         4.18%
average sp          8906.03        

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               730            0.17%
hit                 288544         67.06%
crit                141020         32.77%
average ap          13168.77       

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                117            0.05%
hit                 197701         89.72%
crit                22524          10.22%
average sp          8889.28        

Earth Shock:
miss                172            0.06%
hit                 168389         54.85%
crit                138438         45.09%
average sp          8900.13        

Flame Shock:
miss                90             0.06%
hit                 147149         89.93%
crit                16385          10.01%
average sp          8943.82        
dots hit            876720         89.89%
dots crit           98557          10.11%
average dot sp      8959.58        

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               549            0.16%
hit                 227911         67.22%
crit                110591         32.62%
average ap          13162.81       

Lightning Bolt:
miss                268            0.06%
hit                 245105         54.87%
crit                201361         45.07%
average sp          8935.33        

Lightning Shield:
miss                316            0.06%
hit                 295995         54.92%
crit                242639         45.02%
average sp          8924.08        

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               13124          0.93%
glancing            338298         23.91%
hit                 1020612        72.15%
crit                42558          3.01%
average ap          13321.97       

Searing Totem:
miss                1306           0.06%
hit                 1929313        89.85%
crit                216583         10.09%
average sp          8904.41        

Searing Flames:
hit                 789873         89.91%
crit                88688          10.09%
average sp          8899.72        

Trinket1 Damage:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 177613         67.16%
crit                86836          32.84%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 44.17
efficiency          84.28%

flurry uptime                      77.86%
elemental devastation uptime       85.98%

stormstrike debuff uptime          99.49%
flame shock uptime                 76.44%
lightning shield uptime            100.00%
searing totem uptime               99.08%
searing flame uptime               92.43%
UW Windfury uptime                 19.06%
UW Flametongue uptime              26.09%

mh enchant uptime                  39.07%
oh enchant uptime                  31.86%
racial uptime                      15.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 83.51     33.07%
replenishment       0.00      0.00%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
primal wisdom       169.05    66.93%
shamanistic rage    0.00      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2531.71   14.98%    67.58
windfury            1873.78   11.09%    6.37
flametongue         1365.50   8.08%     42.42
searing flames      504.54    2.99%     14.64
stormstrike         1114.36   6.6%      7.18      56.11     24.58%
lava lash           2053.02   12.15%    5.65      22.07     9.67%
searing totem       1723.39   10.2%     1.15      7.89      3.46%
earth shock         687.28    4.07%     5.12      89.91     39.39%
flame shock         807.11    4.78%     2.73      45.26     19.83%
  direct damage     228.46    28.31%    2.73
  dot tick          578.65    71.69%    16.25
lightning bolt      1637.48   9.69%     7.45      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    810.40    4.8%      0.20      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       362.90    2.15%     0.60      7.03      3.08%
unleashed elements  718.06    4.25%     3.67      25.10     10.99%
  MH Windfury       262.26    36.52%    3.67
  OH Flametongue    455.80    63.48%    3.67
Trinket1            706.89    4.18%     4.41

DPS                 16896.42
MPS                 228.26
MP2min              27391.36
MRPS                1039.98
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 4.35s
simulation speed: 827966x
Again im a noob at Enhsim but appreicate your input

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Old 05/23/11, 2:28 AM   #180
ziff
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Originally Posted by Deztroer View Post
Im not very good with enh sim and have probably done something wrong
There's several things wrong with your config.txt file. I'm betting you must have copied from somewhere else, because it has stats in there from before Cata. Let's begin with the issues:

- Simulation time is set to 1000, which is probably abit too low to get stable results. You might want to bump it back to the default of 5000 to get more accurate results.
- You have the reaction time set to 0 min and 0 max, which is pretty much a pointless exercise, especially if you are trying to compare rotations. You're not Mr T, so just set it back to the default of ~250 msec.
- Your EP values are obvious from before Cata, so don't use them if you want to calculate any EP numbers
- The boss armor value is from before Cata, which is going to give you strange results.

Those are the relatively minor ones, but the big problem you have is that you switched off all buffs/debuffs. I'm not sure what you are trying to compare, but Lava Lash gets boosted up much more from our buffs than Stormstrike. Since the difference between the two runs is less than 0.5%, even with all the weirdness in your config it's still a push between them.

My suggestion is to open up EnhSim and reload the default config.txt file. Then just enter your stats directly. That should give you a more accurate simulation of your rotation.

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