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Old 02/23/11, 2:50 PM   #91
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Originally Posted by Binkenstein View Post
Addendum: Haste buffs are multipliers, and the 4pc bonus is a haste buff in that respect.

Most haste buffs are straight multipliers. Some haste buffs have been placed in a category with other haste buffs which they are added to and then applied multiplicatively to the whole.

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Old 02/26/11, 5:54 AM   #92
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I got a question regarding critical strike matter of elemental shaman.
Since I've seen people are putting it as our last attribute, I've noticed significant improve in my DPS with more critical chance.

I'm asking since our lightning bolt is our filler. It's understood that lava burst will critically hit when flame shock is up, but shouldn't be good to keep an eye on critical strike to, since most DPS done is done by our lightning bolt. More crits, more DPS.

What would be a solid "cap" of critical rating that you would recommend ?
Also. RAWR software is reforging some spirit into critical strike. That's is just too terrible, it is probably bugged.
My current critical strike chance is 21%.

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Old 02/26/11, 8:20 AM   #93
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Well, the reason you are not worried about Crit on you gear is in part because lava burst has the auto crit mechanic. If you gear for crit, that crit does not affect one of your spells. Haste, Int, Mastery and Spirit/Hit affect every spell in your arsenal, and thus will become more useful than crit.


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Old 03/01/11, 12:10 PM   #94
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Might be a funny question but as elemental, what's difference between reforging item into hit and reforging into spirit ? Both will give me the same amount of hit rating I guess ? I'm personally getting my hit rating from hit reforging, so what's the different if I would reforge the same ones into spirit ? Thanks

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Old 03/01/11, 1:00 PM   #95
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Originally Posted by Lichbloom.gb View Post
Might be a funny question but as elemental, what's difference between reforging item into hit and reforging into spirit ? Both will give me the same amount of hit rating I guess ? I'm personally getting my hit rating from hit reforging, so what's the different if I would reforge the same ones into spirit ? Thanks
There really isn't a significant difference between the two as they both provide hit 1:1. The main difference is going to allow you to have crossover between resto and elemental pieces of gear by using spirit over hit. The other significant factor is that spirit and hit tend to be mutually exclusive on pieces of gear. Assuming there is a piece of gear with Hit/Crit, you can reforge the crit to spirit to gain additional hit rating on the item instead of the less optimal crit.

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Old 03/01/11, 1:19 PM   #96
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Originally Posted by Rouncer View Post
Most haste buffs are straight multipliers. Some haste buffs have been placed in a category with other haste buffs which they are added to and then applied multiplicatively to the whole.
Can you give an example of this? The only ones that seem to fit into that description would be buffs that don't give haste-percentage (like Elemental Mastery or Heroism) but haste rating. And even they aren't added after the other haste buffs, they're added to your haste rating from gear before multiplying with the other buffs.

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(not perfect, but getting closer )

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Old 03/01/11, 2:12 PM   #97
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Not offhand, I played with that all a few years back and that was the end conclusion. That all ratings are added to make a whole and that is what is applied and that some haste percentage procs are added up in a similar manner and then applied as whole while still others are applied just by themselves.

Stemmed off of looking at Flurry and Swift Retribution and extended into the casting side of things. Doesn't really make much of a difference either way though, more of a curiosity type of thing.

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Old 03/13/11, 4:54 AM   #98
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can I ask, are the feral spirits stats based off a snapshot of your current stats when cast, like fire elemental, or is it constantly updated? and if i Lust before the wolves are out will they get it?

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Old 03/13/11, 10:27 AM   #99
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Originally Posted by chendol View Post
can I ask, are the feral spirits stats based off a snapshot of your current stats when cast, like fire elemental, or is it constantly updated? and if i Lust before the wolves are out will they get it?
They are constantly updated with the stats that they inherit from you (AP, armor, stamina). They don't inherit haste. External buffs, such as bloodlust, are only applied to them if they are already active when the buff is applied to the raid.

They also do crap dps. So while it's worth saving your own lust to lust them a second time when you are sated IF your group can provide another source for the initial lust; it will always be a dps loss to ask a mage or an elemental shaman to spend the GCD to lust them.

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Old 03/16/11, 9:21 PM   #100
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What's the threat reduction of Wind Shear at currently? Just trying to match it with omen appears that one Flame Shock tick outthreats it.

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Old 03/17/11, 9:05 AM   #101
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It removes 5% of your threat on that target.

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Old 03/18/11, 7:53 PM   #102
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What haste rating is needed for getting extra ticks from healing Rain? As goblin, and without being a goblin? Tryed to find some info about it, without luck.

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Old 03/23/11, 12:26 PM   #103
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This information can be found in the catclysm resto thread: [Resto] Cataclysm Raiding and Discussion

Healing Rain:
5 ticks: 0 rating, 0% haste
6 ticks: 610 rating, 4,76% haste
7 ticks: 3050 rating, 23,81% haste
8 ticks: 5489 rating, 42,86% haste

(values if you have Wrath of air totem + amound of haste mentioned)
As a Goblin just subtract 128 haste rating or 1% haste.

Last edited by grishaan : 03/25/11 at 9:06 AM.

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Old 03/24/11, 4:26 PM   #104
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Did something change? I thought the goblin racial only improved hard casts?

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Old 03/25/11, 3:39 AM   #105
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No, it affects every aspect of spells as casttime, time between ticks and so on. It's quite straightforward equal to 1% haste.

Last edited by grishaan : 03/25/11 at 9:11 AM. Reason: Capital letter in the beginning for Jessamy

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