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Old 07/25/11, 12:22 AM   #106
Rouncer
Deeper Shade of Blue
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Cochice View Post
My point point is that obviously Ashunera has made the reforging work as optimally as he believes possible. If people think they can do it better, that's what this thread is for, but a config with a higher output is required to back up your claims.

I wasn't referring to a BiS list with that comment, I was just referring to what I had to do with the regular eye I am currently using. I don't really do BiS lists, although I do appreciate the work Ashunera puts into this one. My raid doesn't progress as fast as others so I find upgrade lists more helpful for my own purposes.

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Old 07/25/11, 1:31 PM   #107
msnja
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Гордунни (EU)
Hi there.
Made some tests with enhsim 2.5.0 for trinket rating and The Hungerer (h) made some more dps increase after APS
Click Here ← Click Here

EnhSim version 2.5.0

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MH:
miss                737409         6.67%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2651589        23.99%
hit                 2955763        26.75%
crit                4706557        42.59%
average ap          19686.58
clip                835860         7.03%
reset               0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.28%
procs/swings        15.36%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 3281920        54.44%
crit                2746964        45.56%
average ap          19670.84

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1105565        54.46%
crit                924422         45.54%
average ap          19638.27

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 575496         54.24%
crit                485554         45.76%
average ap          19632.52

OH:
miss                733884         6.66%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2643372        23.98%
hit                 2950775        26.77%
crit                4694182        42.59%
average ap          19666.05
clip                864878         7.28%
reset               0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 10706422       81.27%
crit                2467443        18.73%
cooldown            757586         5.44%
average sp          12135.97

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1102430        54.31%
crit                927557         45.69%
average ap          19680.80

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 862231         81.26%
crit                198819         18.74%
average sp          12116.25

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 511557         46.30%
crit                593310         53.70%
average sp          12155.04

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 825114         81.22%
crit                190844         18.78%
average sp          12138.55
dots hit            5111729        81.28%
dots crit           1177623        18.72%
average dot sp      12169.08

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 877984         54.43%
crit                735151         45.57%
average ap          19676.63

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1553733        46.28%
crit                1803356        53.72%
average sp          12145.12

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1182296        46.31%
crit                1370720        53.69%
average sp          12153.99

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1699304        24.02%
hit                 5163216        72.98%
crit                212284         3.00%
average ap          19819.94

Searing Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 8711897        81.28%
crit                2006793        18.72%
average sp          12126.80

Searing Flames:
hit                 3911728        81.31%
crit                898894         18.69%
average sp          12121.48

Maelstrom Weapon:                                 PPM
MW5 cast            1470024        43.79%         4.90
MW4 cast            477193         14.21%         1.59
MW3 cast            581333         17.32%         1.94
MW2 cast            828539         24.68%         2.76
MW1 cast            0              0.00%          0.00
proc                13998789                      46.66
proc eaten          1338817        9.56%          4.46
efficiency          90.44%

flurry uptime                      87.29%
elemental devastation uptime       93.48%

stormstrike debuff uptime          99.62%
flame shock uptime                 89.34%
lightning shield uptime            100.00%
searing totem uptime               99.64%
searing flame uptime               93.02%
UW Windfury uptime                 17.11%
UW Flametongue uptime              18.74%

mh enchant uptime                  40.78%
oh enchant uptime                  33.18%
trinket1 uptime                    28.07%
trinket2 uptime                    22.86%
potion uptime                      11.88%


Set bonus uptimes:
T12 Battlegear 4 piece                  100.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               4859.68   14.36%    73.58
windfury            3232.96   9.55%     6.70
flametongue         2817.24   8.32%     43.91
searing flames      1004.26   2.97%     16.04
stormstrike         3289.94   9.72%     6.77      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           5330.97   15.75%    5.38      21.00     9.51%
searing totem       3057.99   9.03%     1.16      7.96      3.60%
earth shock         849.30    2.51%     3.68      64.72     29.31%
flame shock         1883.74   5.57%     3.39      56.20     25.46%
  direct damage     510.78    27.12%    3.39
  dot tick          1372.96   72.88%    20.96
lightning bolt      4331.91   12.80%    11.19     0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    1343.83   3.97%     8.51      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       440.76    1.30%     0.55      6.47      2.93%
  melee             440.76    100.00%   23.58
unleashed elements  1406.49   4.16%     3.54      24.17     10.95%
  MH Windfury       615.25    43.74%    3.54
  OH Flametongue    791.23    56.26%    3.54

DPS                 33849.06
MPS                 220.79
MP2min              26494.42
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 17.34s
simulation speed: 1038122x
### Saved by v2.5.0 of EnhSimGUI

config_version                  2.5.0
simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   7
report_count                    80
threads                         1
combat_length_rng_factor        0.35
min_lag                         230
max_lag                         260
simulate_mana                   0
cast_sr_on_cooldown             0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  100
ep_hit_rating                   -100
ep_expertise_rating             -100
ep_haste_rating                 100
ep_mastery_rating               100
ep_spellpower                   115
ep_dps                          57
ep_mana                         1200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          100
ep_intellect                    100
ep_agility                      100
ep_strength                     100

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
use_bloodlust                   1
always_bloodlust_wolves         0
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       3
cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left   1
cast_searing_only_if_ticks_left 5
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       0
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    1000
use_potion_before_combat        5
necrotic_touch                  0
necrotic_touch_heroic           0

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -
ring_proc                       -
weapon_set_proc                 -

rotation_priority_count         10
rotation_priority1              ST_0
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              LL
rotation_priority4              MW5_LB
rotation_priority5              FS_UEF
rotation_priority6              UE
rotation_priority7              ES
rotation_priority8              SW
rotation_priority9              ST
rotation_priority10             MW2_LB

aoe_rotation_priority_count     0

fight_name                      standard_single_target
miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        24.00
armor                           11977
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

additional_targets              0
additional_target_percent       0.00
additional_target_level         85

armor_debuff                    12.0/12.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                10.0/10.0
crit_chance_buff                5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_multiplier    10.0/10.0
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             8.0/8.0
spellpower_buff                 10.0/10.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 5.0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff           549/549
mana_buff                       2126/2126
mana_regen_buff                 326/326

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mixology                        0

flask_elixir                    flask_of_the_winds
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_the_tolvir
food                            skewered_eel
profession_buff                 -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          622.0
oh_dps                          622.0
mh_crit                         29.24
oh_crit                         29.24
mh_hit                          20.34
oh_hit                          20.34
mh_expertise_rating             541
oh_expertise_rating             541
ap                              14863
melee_haste                     6.09
str                             156
agi                             6513
int                             155
spi                             178
mastery_rating                  2337
spellpower                      7576
spell_crit                      8.71
spell_hit                       17.00
spell_haste                     6.09
max_mana                        28430
mp5                             1171

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      landslide
oh_enchant                      landslide

mh_weapon                       axe
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        matrix_restabilizer_heroic
trinket2                        the_hungerer_heroic

set_bonus1                      t12_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         agile_shadowspirit_diamond

glyph_prime1                    stormstrike
glyph_prime2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_prime3                    lava_lash

glyph_major1                    -
glyph_major2                    -
glyph_major3                    -

armor_type_bonus                1

primary_talent                  enhancement
elemental_weapons               2/2
focused_strikes                 3/3
improved_shields                2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
flurry                          3/3
static_shock                    3/3
searing_flames                  3/3
frozen_power                    0/2
shamanistic_rage                1/1
unleashed_rage                  2/2
improved_lava_lash              2/2
maelstrom_weapon                3/3

convection                      0/2
concussion                      2/3
call_of_flame                   2/2
reverberation                   0/2
elemental_precision             3/3
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_oath                  0/2
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
elemental_mastery               0/1
feedback                        0/3
lava_surge                      0/2

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Old 07/25/11, 1:55 PM   #108
Rouncer
Deeper Shade of Blue
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by msnja View Post
Confirm?
Deny.

EnhSim isn't accounting for the interaction between Matrix and Hungerer properly yet. Hungerer proc can cause Matrix to proc haste instead of mastery. Last I heard, Ziff was working out how to model that but it's pretty safe to say give the Hungerer to a rogue/hunter/cat since they all like haste a lot more then we do and will get a lot more out of the trinket.

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Old 07/26/11, 4:06 AM   #109
ziff
Piston Honda
 
Orc Shaman
 
Feathermoon
Originally Posted by Rouncer View Post
Deny.

EnhSim isn't accounting for the interaction between Matrix and Hungerer properly yet. Hungerer proc can cause Matrix to proc haste instead of mastery. Last I heard, Ziff was working out how to model that but it's pretty safe to say give the Hungerer to a rogue/hunter/cat since they all like haste a lot more then we do and will get a lot more out of the trinket.
The problem with EnhSim is that I don't keep track of the various ratings. For example, the sim doesn't keep track of Crit Rating, but Crit % instead. I don't have a good way of tracking the relative ratings between crit, haste and mastery, so I have modeled the Matrix trinket as only effecting Mastery. This means that using the Hungerer might incorrectly inflate the usefulness of the Matrix trinket since it might use crit rating instead of mastery on live when the Hungerer also procs.

The only way to solve this is by having EnhSim switching over to tracking rating directly and then deriving the percentages from the base stats. But that is a much larger change and I want to focus on some smaller changes first.

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Old 07/26/11, 9:51 AM   #110
Cochice
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Sargeras
Originally Posted by ziff View Post
The problem with EnhSim is that I don't keep track of the various ratings. For example, the sim doesn't keep track of Crit Rating, but Crit % instead. I don't have a good way of tracking the relative ratings between crit, haste and mastery, so I have modeled the Matrix trinket as only effecting Mastery. This means that using the Hungerer might incorrectly inflate the usefulness of the Matrix trinket since it might use crit rating instead of mastery on live when the Hungerer also procs.

The only way to solve this is by having EnhSim switching over to tracking rating directly and then deriving the percentages from the base stats. But that is a much larger change and I want to focus on some smaller changes first.
Looking at my current haste and mastery ratings (684 and 1855 respectively), I can't see any reason that, if [Hungerer] were up, Matrix wouldn't always proc haste instead of mastery. Can't you just take starting values of each stat, check that the difference between the two is less than 1532 or 1730 (reg and heroic), and then just do a check for the Hungerer buff when procing Matrix? It's clunky, but it would work.

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Old 07/27/11, 1:18 AM   #111
ziff
Piston Honda
 
Orc Shaman
 
Feathermoon
Originally Posted by Cochice View Post
Looking at my current haste and mastery ratings (684 and 1855 respectively), I can't see any reason that, if [Hungerer] were up, Matrix wouldn't always proc haste instead of mastery. Can't you just take starting values of each stat, check that the difference between the two is less than 1532 or 1730 (reg and heroic), and then just do a check for the Hungerer buff when procing Matrix? It's clunky, but it would work.
It would work fine for Haste, since there's currently a direct map between unbuffed haste percentage and haste rating. The real problem comes into accounting for crit rating, since the sim currently doesn't know enough to derive your crit rating from crit percentage. If the sim tracked talent points in Acuity it might work, but the sim doesn't currently track talents that show up in the paper doll stats.

Since this is pretty straight-forward, I'll just go ahead and add in the haste versus mastery rating comparison. It will at least make the trinket model more accurate than hard-coding mastery always. Once I figure out how deep I want to go to solve the crit rating problem, I'll add that in as well.

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Old 07/27/11, 1:25 AM   #112
Rouncer
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Mal'Ganis
Could shift crit from percentage to actual crit rating since that's reported on the mouseover tooltip.

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Old 09/12/11, 10:14 PM   #113
Ashunera
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Draenei Shaman
 
Anvilmar
Updated. Replaced [Ancient Petrified Seed] with [Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor] in both the melee and spell power main hand profiles.

Wanted to make a special note about this as trinkets tend to be widely sought after.

Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor (heroic) is an upgrade over Ancient Petrified Seed. It is, however, a very small upgrade, it only provides roughly a 50 dps increase. I wanted to make sure people aren't freaking out about getting VPLC as an Enhancement Shaman, as it's likely to be a much larger boost for any spell caster.

The normal and heroic versions are both good alternatives to Ancient Petrified Seed if you are an engineer, due to the fact that they do not interfere with Synapse Springs, and especially if remaining near the spell hit cap is difficult at your specific gear level.

DPS report with Ancient Petrified Seed:

Click Here ← Click Here
EnhSim version 2.6.1

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MH:
miss                757539         7.39%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2460207        24.00%
hit                 2773928        27.06%
crit                4260432        41.56%
average ap          18850.07       
clip                781110         7.08%
reset               962535         8.58%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.38%
procs/swings        15.37%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 3129162        55.54%
crit                2504853        44.46%
average ap          18852.89       

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1089896        55.38%
crit                877994         44.62%
average ap          18824.26       

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 580264         55.30%
crit                468976         44.70%
average ap          18779.72       

OH:
miss                693048         7.42%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2241795        23.99%
hit                 2528434        27.06%
crit                3880259        41.53%
average ap          18858.96       
clip                728612         7.23%
reset               962535         9.34%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9440876        81.32%
crit                2167965        18.68%
cooldown            595444         4.88%
average sp          14811.71       

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1089832        55.38%
crit                878058         44.62%
average ap          18853.44       

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 853444         81.34%
crit                195796         18.66%
average sp          14774.87       

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 495219         46.31%
crit                574139         53.69%
average sp          14829.44       

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 802671         81.40%
crit                183423         18.60%
average sp          14843.46       
dots hit            4776112        81.32%
dots crit           1096980        18.68%
average dot sp      14885.98       

Lava Burst:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3246           0.34%
crit                959289         99.66%
average sp          14830.46       

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 878933         55.42%
crit                706974         44.58%
average ap          18874.47       

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1284929        46.35%
crit                1487344        53.65%
average sp          14825.36       

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1150575        46.30%
crit                1334224        53.70%
average sp          14831.06       

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1694238        24.00%
hit                 5152414        73.00%
crit                211838         3.00%
average ap          18638.36       

Searing Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 8731585        81.35%
crit                2002298        18.65%
average sp          14797.64       

Searing Flames:
hit                 3880889        81.34%
crit                890131         18.66%
average sp          14782.96       

Maelstrom Weapon:                                 PPM            
MW5 cast            1351704        48.76%         4.51
MW4 cast            450240         16.24%         1.50
MW3 cast            462470         16.68%         1.54
MW2 cast            507859         18.32%         1.69
MW1 cast            0              0.00%          0.00
proc                12122753                      40.41          
proc lost           1160144        9.57%          3.87
proc eaten          152873         1.26%          0.51
efficiency          89.17%

flurry uptime                      85.36%
elemental devastation uptime       96.64%

stormstrike debuff uptime          99.61%
flame shock uptime                 85.78%
lightning shield uptime            100.00%
searing totem uptime               99.64%
searing flame uptime               93.10%
UW Windfury uptime                 18.63%
UW Flametongue uptime              18.59%

mh enchant uptime                  36.25%
oh enchant uptime                  29.73%
trinket1 uptime                    28.01%
trinket2 uptime                    26.33%
potion uptime                      11.89%


Set bonus uptimes:
T12 Battlegear 4 piece                  100.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               3554.68   10.28%    65.32
windfury            2332.80   6.75%     6.26
flametongue         2481.29   7.18%     38.70
searing flames      1255.78   3.63%     15.90
stormstrike         2621.67   7.58%     6.56      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           5242.79   15.17%    5.29      20.64     6.40%
searing totem       3845.63   11.12%    1.16      7.91      2.45%
earth shock         1009.92   2.92%     3.56      62.64     19.41%
flame shock         2206.60   6.38%     3.29      54.55     16.90%
  direct damage     609.49    27.62%    3.29
  dot tick          1597.11   72.38%    19.58
lava burst          2086.86   6.04%     3.21      170.57    52.85%
lightning bolt      4466.70   12.92%    9.24      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    1623.80   4.70%     8.28      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       427.81    1.24%     0.55      6.46      2.00%
  melee             427.81    100.00%   23.53
unleashed elements  1415.01   4.09%     3.50      23.90     7.40%
  MH Windfury       455.44    32.19%    3.50
  OH Flametongue    959.57    67.81%    3.50

DPS                 34571.35
MPS                 322.77
MP2min              38732.41
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 15.10s
simulation speed: 1192368x




DPS report with Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor:

Click Here ← Click Here
EnhSim version 2.6.1

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MH:
miss                755984         7.39%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2455017        23.99%
hit                 2881305        28.16%
crit                4139236        40.46%
average ap          18053.31       
clip                779337         7.08%
reset               964408         8.61%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.39%
procs/swings        15.37%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 3185285        56.62%
crit                2440234        43.38%
average ap          18064.10       

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1113049        56.56%
crit                854785         43.44%
average ap          18017.35       

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 592801         56.48%
crit                456797         43.52%
average ap          18000.77       

OH:
miss                690014         7.40%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            2238140        24.01%
hit                 2624271        28.15%
crit                3768815        40.43%
average ap          18059.28       
clip                731356         7.28%
reset               964408         9.38%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9346396        80.62%
crit                2246995        19.38%
cooldown            591785         4.86%
average sp          14904.72       

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1111322        56.47%
crit                856512         43.53%
average ap          18046.34       

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 845226         80.53%
crit                204372         19.47%
average sp          14875.56       

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 487690         45.63%
crit                581052         54.37%
average sp          14912.17       

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 795790         80.68%
crit                190618         19.32%
average sp          14925.43       
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Lava Burst:
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Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 895996         56.49%
crit                690120         43.51%
average ap          18074.55       

Lightning Bolt:
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crit                1505369        54.34%
average sp          14919.09       

Lightning Shield:
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hit                 1133491        45.59%
crit                1352565        54.41%
average sp          14917.33       

Spirit Wolves:
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dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1693018        24.01%
hit                 5148094        73.00%
crit                211530         3.00%
average ap          18207.96       

Searing Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 8654346        80.63%
crit                2079606        19.37%
average sp          14895.56       

Searing Flames:
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crit                925199         19.40%
average sp          14889.06       

Trinket2 Damage:
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hit                 1186310        80.58%
crit                285815         19.42%

Maelstrom Weapon:                                 PPM            
MW5 cast            1348626        48.68%         4.50
MW4 cast            448901         16.20%         1.50
MW3 cast            464073         16.75%         1.55
MW2 cast            508717         18.36%         1.70
MW1 cast            0              0.00%          0.00
proc                12100241                      40.33          
proc lost           1151854        9.52%          3.84
proc eaten          152410         1.26%          0.51
efficiency          89.22%

flurry uptime                      84.54%
elemental devastation uptime       96.80%

stormstrike debuff uptime          99.61%
flame shock uptime                 85.80%
lightning shield uptime            100.00%
searing totem uptime               99.64%
searing flame uptime               93.10%
UW Windfury uptime                 18.68%
UW Flametongue uptime              18.59%

mh enchant uptime                  36.19%
oh enchant uptime                  29.65%
trinket1 uptime                    28.01%
potion uptime                      11.91%


Set bonus uptimes:
T12 Battlegear 4 piece                  100.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               3397.61   9.81%     65.18
windfury            2243.22   6.48%     6.25
flametongue         2316.98   6.69%     38.64
searing flames      1227.76   3.55%     15.90
stormstrike         2512.57   7.26%     6.56      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           4891.36   14.13%    5.29      20.65     6.39%
searing totem       3758.83   10.86%    1.16      7.91      2.45%
earth shock         984.32    2.84%     3.56      62.60     19.38%
flame shock         2153.39   6.22%     3.29      54.57     16.89%
  direct damage     595.02    27.63%    3.29
  dot tick          1558.37   72.37%    19.58
lava burst          2033.79   5.87%     3.21      170.88    52.89%
lightning bolt      4358.11   12.59%    9.23      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    1585.40   4.58%     8.29      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       423.09    1.22%     0.55      6.46      2.00%
  melee             423.09    100.00%   23.51
unleashed elements  1374.22   3.97%     3.50      23.91     7.40%
  MH Windfury       436.09    31.73%    3.50
  OH Flametongue    938.12    68.27%    3.50
Trinket2            1366.12   3.95%     4.91

DPS                 34626.75
MPS                 323.06
MP2min              38767.72
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 15.41s
simulation speed: 1167845x

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Old 09/18/11, 8:07 PM   #114
Gromthak
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Doomhammer (EU)
So I've recently acquired EoP and I've been trying to find a way to make casting lavaburst less painful and I've found that wedging Lava Burst between mw4 and mw2 gives a slight boost in dps (about 68 with the BiS config, slightly more with my own gear). Now I'm wondering if that combination was just overlooked or if there is something I've missed? It definitely makes it less of a strain for me but I'm not sure if it actually provides more dps.

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ep_mastery_rating 100
ep_spellpower 115
ep_dps 57
ep_mana 1200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 100
ep_intellect 100
ep_agility 100
ep_strength 100

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use_bloodlust 1
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use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 1000
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rotation_priority3 LL
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rotation_priority5 FS_UEF
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rotation_priority8 SW
rotation_priority9 ST
rotation_priority10 MW4_LB
rotation_priority11 LVB
rotation_priority12 MW2_LB

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miss 8.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 24.00
armor 11977
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0

additional_targets 0
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spell_crit_chance_debuff 5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff 8.0/8.0
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percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 5.0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff 549/549
mana_buff 2126/2126
mana_regen_buff 326/326

replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mixology 0

flask_elixir flask_of_the_winds
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_the_tolvir
food skewered_eel
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race tauren
mh_speed 2.4
oh_speed 2.6
mh_dps 311.0
oh_dps 622.0
mh_crit 26.87
oh_crit 26.87
mh_hit 19.6
oh_hit 19.6
mh_expertise_rating 541
oh_expertise_rating 541
ap 13406
melee_haste 6.09
str 156
agi 5851
int 810
spi 267
mastery_rating 2390
spellpower 10139
spell_crit 9.39
spell_hit 17.00
spell_haste 6.09
max_mana 35300
mp5 1171

mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue

mh_enchant landslide
oh_enchant landslide

mh_weapon axe
oh_weapon axe

trinket1 matrix_restabilizer_heroic
trinket2 variable_pulse_lightning_capacitor_heroic

set_bonus1 t12_battlegear_4
set_bonus2 -
set_bonus3 -

metagem agile_shadowspirit_diamond

glyph_prime1 stormstrike
glyph_prime2 windfury_weapon
glyph_prime3 lava_lash

glyph_major1 -
glyph_major2 -
glyph_major3 -

armor_type_bonus 1

primary_talent enhancement
elemental_weapons 2/2
focused_strikes 3/3
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flurry 3/3
static_shock 3/3
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call_of_flame 2/2
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elemental_oath 0/2
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storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
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feedback 0/3
lava_surge 0/2


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MH:
miss 763138 7.40%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 2475264 24.01%
hit 2896872 28.10%
crit 4173475 40.48%
average ap 18059.01
clip 406588 3.79%
reset 1154737 10.07%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits 16.42%
procs/swings 15.40%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3213104 56.58%
crit 2465572 43.42%
average ap 18066.96

MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 1120500 56.55%
crit 860885 43.45%
average ap 18018.24

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 590124 56.50%
crit 454390 43.50%
average ap 18015.18

OH:
miss 695084 7.40%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 2255219 24.01%
hit 2640064 28.11%
crit 3801901 40.48%
average ap 18066.53
clip 355106 3.64%
reset 1154737 10.95%

OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 9341055 80.62%
crit 2245073 19.38%
cooldown 685280 5.58%
average sp 14908.16

OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 1119194 56.49%
crit 862191 43.51%
average ap 18047.32

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 842104 80.62%
crit 202410 19.38%
average sp 14883.49

Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 489999 45.64%
crit 583639 54.36%
average sp 14910.05

Flame Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 769301 80.68%
crit 184173 19.32%
average sp 14937.92
dots hit 4584251 80.61%
dots crit 1102695 19.39%
average dot sp 14968.75

Lava Burst:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 3856 0.33%
crit 1150881 99.67%
average sp 14911.24

Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 898656 56.42%
crit 694183 43.58%
average ap 18077.96

Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1154759 45.64%
crit 1375363 54.36%
average sp 14927.44

Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1138740 45.59%
crit 1359047 54.41%
average sp 14918.00

Spirit Wolves:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 1690210 24.00%
hit 5142334 73.01%
crit 210792 2.99%
average ap 18206.23

Searing Totem:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 8648586 80.61%
crit 2080516 19.39%
average sp 14897.56

Searing Flames:
hit 3817065 80.61%
crit 918333 19.39%
average sp 14890.94

Trinket2 Damage:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1194406 80.66%
crit 286345 19.34%

Maelstrom Weapon: PPM
MW5 cast 1519299 60.05% 5.06
MW4 cast 443609 17.53% 1.48
MW3 cast 270878 10.71% 0.90
MW2 cast 296336 11.71% 0.99
MW1 cast 0 0.00% 0.00
proc 12200485 40.67
proc lost 1424247 11.67% 4.75
proc eaten 84651 0.69% 0.28
efficiency 87.63%

flurry uptime 84.58%
elemental devastation uptime 97.21%

stormstrike debuff uptime 99.61%
flame shock uptime 83.01%
lightning shield uptime 100.00%
searing totem uptime 99.64%
searing flame uptime 92.61%
UW Windfury uptime 19.02%
UW Flametongue uptime 18.56%

mh enchant uptime 36.43%
oh enchant uptime 29.84%
trinket1 uptime 28.02%
potion uptime 11.87%


Set bonus uptimes:
T12 Battlegear 4 piece 100.00%

DPS PPM MPS
white 3424.95 9.87% 65.67
windfury 2265.32 6.53% 6.31
flametongue 2316.23 6.68% 38.62
searing flames 1214.66 3.50% 15.78
stormstrike 2530.00 7.29% 6.60 0.00 0.00%
lava lash 4916.34 14.17% 5.31 20.73 6.28%
searing totem 3757.95 10.83% 1.16 7.89 2.39%
earth shock 988.58 2.85% 3.58 62.89 19.04%
flame shock 2085.40 6.01% 3.18 52.75 15.97%
direct damage 575.57 27.60% 3.18
dot tick 1509.83 72.40% 18.96
lava burst 2451.11 7.07% 3.85 179.59 54.37%
lightning bolt 3982.63 11.48% 8.43 0.00 0.00%
lightning shield 1593.02 4.59% 8.33 0.00 0.00%
spirit wolves 422.50 1.22% 0.55 6.44 1.95%
melee 422.50 100.00% 23.48
unleashed elements 1367.87 3.94% 3.48 23.79 7.20%
MH Windfury 434.21 31.74% 3.48
OH Flametongue 933.66 68.26% 3.48
Trinket2 1374.97 3.96% 4.94

DPS 34691.52
MPS 330.29
MP2min 39635.10
MRPS 0.00
Out of mana time 0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 11.05s
simulation speed: 1629696x

Last edited by Jessamy : 09/19/11 at 9:09 PM. Reason: merging two posts into one

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Old 09/26/11, 7:56 PM   #115
Ashunera
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Anvilmar
It was overlooked - I didn't try that specific priority, though when you start getting into multiple different Maelstrom stack priorities that are fairly close together, it will get a bit messy when trying to do it in game.

Regardless, I've updated the caster config with your changes, and have made another - Flametongue/Flametongue imbues with the Flametongue glyph is a slight increase, but I wanted to point out that this is likely to only ever be the case if you are using HEROIC Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor and Eye of Purification. The normal version of VPLC is outdone by APS, Fluid Death, and, of course, Matrix Restabilizer, and a large part of FT/FT's value comes from that trinket. If you have the normal version, be sure to sim it against your other possible setups.

It's also worth mentioning that it seems Mastery, with that setup, is more valuable than Expertise, but the gear is setup so that it's not possible to convert any of the Expertise present to more Mastery so no changes were made.

Last edited by Ashunera : 09/27/11 at 6:09 AM.

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Old 11/11/11, 9:38 PM   #116
Ashunera
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Anvilmar
Slot Item Gem 1 Gem 2 Gem3 Reforge Enchant
Head Spiritwalker's Helmet [Agile Shadowspirit Diamond] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - Haste -> Mastery [Arcanum of the Ramkahen]
Neck Cameo of Terrible Memories - - - Haste -> Mastery -
Shoulders Spiritwalker's Spauders [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Adept Ember Topaz] - Expertise -> Mastery [Greater Inscription of Shattered Crystal]
Back [Dreadfire Drape] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - Hit -> Expertise Enchant Cloak - Major Agility
Chest Spiritwalker's Cuirass [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
Wrists Bracers of Looming Darkness [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - - Crit -> Hit Enchant Bracer - Agility
Hands Spiritwalker's Grips [Glinting Demonseye] - - Expertise -> Hit Enchant Gloves - Greater Mastery
Waist Belt of the Beloved Companion [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] Haste -> Mastery [Ebonsteel Belt Buckle]
Legs Spiritwalker's Legguards [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Adept Ember Topaz] Crit -> Mastery [Dragonscale Leg Armor]
Feet Treads of Dormant Dreams [Delicate Inferno Ruby] [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - Haste -> Mastery Enchant Boots - Major Agility
Finger Seal of Primordial Shadow [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - - Expertise -> Crit Enchant Ring - Agility
Finger Emergency Descent Loop [Adept Ember Topaz] - - Haste -> Crit Enchant Ring - Agility
Trinket Wrath of Unchaining - - - - -
Trinket Vial of Shadows - - - - -
Ranged Ripfang Relic [Delicate Inferno Ruby] - - Expertise -> Mastery -
Main No'Kaled, the Elements of Death - - - - Enchant Weapon - Landslide
Off No'Kaled, the Elements of Death - - - - Enchant Weapon - Landslide


Looks like BiS for tier 13 might be something like this.

Signet of Grasping Mouths - Item - World of Warcraft
Boneshard Boots - Item - World of Warcraft (VP - there is no heroic version)
Cord of Dragon Sinew - Item - World of Warcraft (VP - there is no heroic version)
Choker of the Vanquished Lord - Item - World of Warcraft
Matrix Restabilizer - Item - World of Warcraft

These items may all be competitive for BiS. The boots and belt, despite being 13 item levels lower, have far superior itemization than the 410s we have available for those slots and may end up being roughly equal or even slightly better. Due to the value of mastery, Matrix Restabilizer may also outdo Vial of Shadows depending on the value of that proc. The on use VP trinket probably isn't worth your time.

There is also no heroic version of Batwing Cloak or Cameo of Terrible Memories, meaning up to 3 Firelands BiS pieces may remain BiS in 4.3. At any rate, the only real upgrades in heroic Dragon Soul are going to be tier tokens and No'Kaled or Morningstar of Heroic Will.

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Old 11/13/11, 8:49 AM   #117
Stopokingme
Don Flamenco
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
Originally Posted by Ashunera View Post
Matrix Restabilizer may also outdo Vial of Shadows depending on the value of that proc.
Vial of Shadows is quite unique, the proc scales with attack power. Seemed to be 1 damage per attack power increase. This was on the raid finder version though, no idea if the normal/heroic versions have better scaling or not.

Enchantment?

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Old 12/04/11, 12:31 AM   #118
Callo
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Magtheridon
How sure is the data on the Vial? I just got the heroic version of the matrix but I know for a fact its BiS for our bear druid and wouldnt want to take it over him if Matrix was 3rd BiS

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Old 12/04/11, 4:54 AM   #119
Cochice
dorf
 
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Callo View Post
How sure is the data on the Vial? I just got the heroic version of the matrix but I know for a fact its BiS for our bear druid and wouldnt want to take it over him if Matrix was 3rd BiS
I'm not sure where you're getting this, but I'm pretty sure that [Wrath of Unchaining] and [Resolve of Undying] (heroic versions of both - iLvl 416, since mouseovers don't want to point to the right thing) are going to take the cake as the Bear BiS trinkets in DS.

Edit: I could be wrong on this, if so please point me to proof that Restabilizer is better than either of those trinkets for bears.

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Old 12/04/11, 1:26 PM   #120
Callo
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Magtheridon
From my understanding the static agi from the matrix does much more than straight up dodge, the mastery proc gives much larger savage defense shields, etc. If anything it's probably pretty close but another benefit for bear Druids using the matrix is that the trinket is just as good when he goes cat when not tanking on madness of deathwing. The latest version of the sim doesn't have the vial (unless I'm stupid and havent found the new version) so I can't tell for sure what's best.

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