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Old 04/15/11, 10:24 PM   #1
• Jessamy
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Shaman: Simple Questions thread reboot -- new kinder gentler rule-7-free zone

This is the thread for simple questions that don't fit anywhere else. If your question applies to one of the existing thread topics, please post it there instead. If you expect to generate significant additional discussion, create a new thread. If, however, you have a simple question that only requires a simple answer and don't see a better place to post it, this is your thread.

If you're struggling to push reasonable dps or keep your teammates alive and you don't know why, start by reading the guide at the start of the thread for your spec. You should verify that the answer isn't already easily available before posting. If you still can't figure out what you're doing wrong, or you didn't understand what you've read, ask here. Maybe someone will help you. But if you don't get a response, tactics like asking again or bumping your post will earn you an infraction.

Note that all forum rules other than the injunction against hand holding requests still apply in this thread, and that rule still applies everywhere else. If anything I will enforce the rest of the rules even more strictly! Clear communication is important even in short posts. A short "no" or "choose trinket B" response to a question isn't helpful, and will receive an infraction -- briefly explain the why and how of things. The goal is to educate, not babysit.

I'll repeat the point I made in that last paragraph -- click this link and read the rules before posting, and follow them when you do post.


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Old 04/17/11, 4:41 AM   #2
ghaltagh
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Skullcrusher (EU)
BWD fist weapons

i just checked all the forums here and i also check the BWD BoE Fist Weapons in Enhism, but i didnt get any Logical reason that why Torment + Maimgor's Bite is better than Torment and Agony . could someone plz help me about it ?

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Old 04/17/11, 6:44 AM   #3
greez
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Originally Posted by ghaltagh View Post
i just checked all the forums here and i also check the BWD BoE Fist Weapons in Enhism, but i didnt get any Logical reason that why 2x Maimgor's Bite is better than Torment and Agony . could someone plz help me about it ?
Someone might want to correct me, but as far as Im concerned haste proc from set avarages to around 200 haste, which isnt enough to make up for agility loss when using Agony OH.
Edit: If you sim'd it and got similar results - on any boss encounter there are times when you cant use procs to their full potential due to mechanics, so its better to avoid procs like the one from Claws set.

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Old 04/17/11, 7:58 AM   #4
Staticus
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Draenei Shaman
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by ghaltagh View Post
i just checked all the forums here and i also check the BWD BoE Fist Weapons in Enhism, but i didnt get any Logical reason that why Torment + Maimgor's Bite is better than Torment and Agony . could someone plz help me about it ?
Assuming it's 1 ppm like most procs, you're talking a passive 166 haste which isn't worth enough to favour it over anything except a blue OH, even the upcoming 4.1 fist from ZG sims better for me. (and that's the only reason I still use Agony & Torment, cos I've yet to see any axes from BWD)

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Old 05/02/11, 10:52 AM   #5
Kitteh
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Draenei Shaman
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
With Elemental Precision - Spell - World of Warcraft providing spell hit from spirit and being seemingly favoured for single target builds i'm curious if melee hit can be forgotten about completely and just gearing towards spirit+hit needs to be 1639 to be soft capped (space goat)? I've tried gearing with this in mind but it seems to sim rather low. Any clue whats causing this?

I run with this build presently if the question causes confusion: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

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If you have further questions, feel free to raise them, but keep in mind when so doing that I'm right, you're wrong, and that you're annoying me.

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Old 05/02/11, 1:57 PM   #6
Bainato
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Tauren Shaman
 
Moon Guard
Originally Posted by Kitteh View Post
With Elemental Precision - Spell - World of Warcraft providing spell hit from spirit and being seemingly favoured for single target builds i'm curious if melee hit can be forgotten about completely and just gearing towards spirit+hit needs to be 1639 to be soft capped (space goat)? I've tried gearing with this in mind but it seems to sim rather low. Any clue whats causing this?

I run with this build presently if the question causes confusion: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
You can't forgo melee hit because dual wielding gives enhancement an inherently high auto attack miss% against raid bosses, 27% while dual wielding vs 8% with a two-hander and auto attack damage is still ~16% of our damage (#1 or #2 source of damage) in addition to proc'ing maelstrom weapon. +Hit benefits melee and spell attacks while spirit only affects spells. There's no reason to favor spirit over +hit.

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Old 05/05/11, 6:32 AM   #7
wavehunta
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Draenei Shaman
 
Ghostlands (EU)
Glyph of Shamanistic Rage

Hey All,

I have been using the glyph of shamanistic Rage now for some time.. I am raiding , ToT4W, Bwd, and Bot for some time and we are getting to Al'akir, Nef and Cho gall... every week... however now I am getting used to the fight I am looking at more detail how my spells , counter spells are working... however ... I have not been able to see any machanic working for Shamanistic rage.

So I have come here to seek some more knowledge.. Has anyone seen their Shamanistic rage Dispel/ remove any Buffs?

For example.. on Al akir with acid rain in P2 I have not seen it dispel or remove this buff... but when I tank Al akir on my Death knight the Anti magic sheild removes/Stops stacks of acid rain .... so I would have thought the glyph should work here?

So has anyone had any joy dispelling anything by using Shamanistic rage glyph / if so could you let me know what spell you have succesfully seen this glyph work with.. and which instance ?

Or should I Just give up on this glyph as it has no Raid Use?


with thanks

Last edited by wavehunta : 05/05/11 at 10:14 AM. Reason: Corrected Errors Due to Grammar infraction

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Old 05/05/11, 6:59 AM   #8
grishaan
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Gul'dan (EU)
The effect you're seeing on your DK is most probably due to the AMS making you immune to application of a new magic debuff which is quite different from the Glyph of Shamanistic Rage removing any existing dispellable (!) magic debuff. Only use for this glyph coming to my mind is helping out with dispell on you at Twilight Council or Cho'gall.

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Old 05/08/11, 4:10 PM   #9
Moretotems
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Orc Shaman
 
Terokkar (EU)
Whats better and why, I have these two trinkets

Essence of the Cyclone 321 Agility Chance to increase crit by 1926 for 10 sec
Unheeded Warning 321 Agility chance to weapon damage by 680 for 10 sec

Ive being using Essence of the cyclone as I enjoy its crit bonus.

But unheeded warning has always being a iffy one in which I believe might be better, but never gave it a chance

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Old 05/09/11, 12:36 PM   #10
peer
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Draenei Paladin
 
Defias Brotherhood (EU)
Apparently, unless it changed in 4.1, Unheeded Warning's proc does not affect Shaman specials, only autoattacks. This makes it a very weak trinket for us. EotC is no doubt superior, but heroic Tia's Grace might be better still.

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Old 05/09/11, 2:42 PM   #11
Rouncer
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Originally Posted by peer View Post
Apparently, unless it changed in 4.1, Unheeded Warning's proc does not affect Shaman specials, only autoattacks. This makes it a very weak trinket for us. EotC is no doubt superior, but heroic Tia's Grace might be better still.
Affects Stormstrike and Windfury Weapon Attacks but doesn't affect Lava Lash as of the last time I tested it.

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Old 05/10/11, 12:10 PM   #12
huntcaudata
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Orc Death Knight
 
Kilrogg
How are Shaman Totems affected by buffs, specifically searing totem (I suppose other possible candidates for scaling would be Magma and Elemental totems). Does it scale with spell power, haste, or crit? If so, does it scale in real time or is it based on your stats at the moment the totem is cast?

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Old 05/10/11, 6:59 PM   #13
Moshne
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Searing Totem dynamically updates for your spell power and your crit. The last time we put extensive time into it it didn't scale with our haste, but that may have changed since. It will also usually take on any percentage buffs you get, things like Blood Queen in ICC, or Stolen Power from Heroic: Nef (by comparison, Fire Elemental will generally not.) However, the Fire Elemental will take a "snapshot" of your spell power when you drop him, keeping it for the entire time (trinket procs, etc.) As far as I'm aware Magma Totem follows the same behavior as Searing Totem.

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Old 05/11/11, 1:25 PM   #14
crazygamer84
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Jubei'Thos
Anyone uses askmrrobot.com? I used it about a month ago and got addicted to it and have great trust in it after my reforging got so much simpler and i'm seeing dps increases. Then i started to change my gear based on its recommendations, but now i'm facing a dilemma as i see its weapon recommendations for a mainhand to be a caster mainhand (I'm enh shaman btw) when i tick off the options to exclude spell weapons, and the stat value to be so much higher than an agi one (even the heroic agi BiS pales in comparison). So i took it upon myself to experiment on it, i changed by MH from Claw of Torment to my ele weapon Incineratus (since its base dmg had been improved) and put landslide on it, reforge things accordingly on it and went to the training dummy(WF/FT). The good news is i'm actually seeing a dps increase by about 1k+.

Next, i played around with it in za/zg and some raids and its showing pretty consistent dps which were slightly higher than before for single targets, and much better numbers for aoe fights. The main question i'm really curious about is: Has spellcaster mainhand been really phased out for enhancement? I've search the whole board for answers, but it seems that this topic has died down long ago, therefore, any advice would really be appreciated.

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Old 05/11/11, 1:39 PM   #15
Volti
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If its still working, it'll probably get changed soon. Blizzard stated multiple times that caster weapons should not be a good choice for Enhance.

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