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Old 08/31/11, 3:21 AM   #121
Sidira
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Old 09/05/11, 1:56 PM   #122
zoombini
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(Apologies if this belongs more in the Elemental thread)

As an Orc Elemental shaman with 2pT12, how should I be managing my cooldowns with casting my fire elemental? Obviously at the beginning I wait for Power Torrent/DMC:V to pop up (which they usually do in the first few casts) and then I pop EM and Blood Fury before dropping my FE.

But after that, how should I line them up? Should I wait for Elemental Mastery and Blood Fury to be off cooldown, and then wait for both procs to happen again? Should I wait for 3/4 to align? 2/4? Since the 2pT12 bonus has a long cooldown, I'm always afraid that if I pop FE too early, then I'll be wasting dps, which usually leads to my FE despawning while I wait for procs.

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Old 09/06/11, 10:53 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by zoombini View Post
(Apologies if this belongs more in the Elemental thread)

As an Orc Elemental shaman with 2pT12, how should I be managing my cooldowns with casting my fire elemental? Obviously at the beginning I wait for Power Torrent/DMC:V to pop up (which they usually do in the first few casts) and then I pop EM and Blood Fury before dropping my FE.

But after that, how should I line them up? Should I wait for Elemental Mastery and Blood Fury to be off cooldown, and then wait for both procs to happen again? Should I wait for 3/4 to align? 2/4? Since the 2pT12 bonus has a long cooldown, I'm always afraid that if I pop FE too early, then I'll be wasting dps, which usually leads to my FE despawning while I wait for procs.
There are 2 states in which you can start a boss fight: GFE off cooldown and GFE on cooldown.
OFF:
Use whatever cooldowns you will be using and drop totem as soon as you get both procs up. You need to get the totem down as soon as those conditions are met because if your 2piece procs before you drop the totem, it seriously hinders your ability to maximize its damage. Ideally, you drop the totem and then your 2pc procs after the drop, you'll hit a trinket+PT proc overlap 20-30 seconds before every GFE dies and you'll re-drop the totem as late as possible (in that window) while still having both buffs.

ON:
Screwed. Hope you get a 2pc proc while you still have potion+trinket+PT up. You're just not going to do as much damage in this state because you won't be able to re-drop at 90-100secs with double proc buff, you'll probably have to drop searing totem before you get a 2pc proc and then depending on the ICDs of your procs you either wait for a double proc, single proc, or drop unbuffed.

edit: I kind of ignored BF because I don't have it. Just use it on cooldown and if you can use it with your trinket procs for a GFE drop, great. If not, the 580sp is close enough to a PT proc that waiting around for the DMC proc that occurs after BF is up would be a dps loss in most cases. Of course there are phased fights where you should be ignoring this advice because DMC+BF is better than DMC + PT.

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Old 09/06/11, 11:44 AM   #124
Yokozuuna
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what am I doing wrong?

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

That's a link to my most current WoL heroic shannox fight. My gear isnt horrible, I recently switched back to enhance from elemental after spening valor points on elemental gear since firelands came out. But my gear still isnt bad, i was main spec enhance for last tier. Anyhow, I feel like I should be doing more DPS. Right now i'm using tier 12 head/shoulder, 391 agi chest from heroic rhyolith, and t11 legs/hands till I get valor points for tier12. Can anyone spot anything in the WoL that im doing wrong?

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Old 09/06/11, 12:41 PM   #125
Nightstarzz
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Originally Posted by Yokozuuna View Post
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

That's a link to my most current WoL heroic shannox fight. My gear isnt horrible, I recently switched back to enhance from elemental after spening valor points on elemental gear since firelands came out. But my gear still isnt bad, i was main spec enhance for last tier. Anyhow, I feel like I should be doing more DPS. Right now i'm using tier 12 head/shoulder, 391 agi chest from heroic rhyolith, and t11 legs/hands till I get valor points for tier12. Can anyone spot anything in the WoL that im doing wrong?
Hey, at a first glance without much detail, you have a lot of rng crit rate to blame for it. You're clearly lacking A LOT of crit on SS, also on WF/LL.
Only your melee attacks seem to take into account proper crit ratio.

Also, you only have 88% uptime on ST + FS.

Here's a link to my guild's last week's hc shannox kill. I am running with better gear than you are, although I'm seriously lacking an Off-hand weapon (still with 372) and a proper non-sidegraded MH weapon.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Hope this helped.

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Old 09/06/11, 10:07 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by zoombini View Post
Should I wait for Elemental Mastery and Blood Fury to be off cooldown, and then wait for both procs to happen again?
Originally Posted by ohcrocsle View Post
I kind of ignored BF because I don't have it.
Also note that ohcrocsle (properly) ignored elemental mastery, since it doesn't affect your fire elemental.


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Old 09/07/11, 1:25 PM   #127
Sharper
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I wanted to know whether anyone has done any theorycrafting relating to the effect which SP directly has upon a fire-elemental dps. I tried to do a little testing myself but I'm horrible with configuring Simcraft and Fire Ele refuses to attack dummies in SW.

I'm debating whether I can safely drop FQ from my gear set in favour of the normal mode Necro Focus, I line up FE with my trinket/potion procs at the start of the fight and during I always link up at least Power Torrent + FQ or DMC + FQ, or if I'm really lucky all 3.

To put it clearer. By how much does my FEle DPS increase when 1149 INT is added with a 100% uptime. Or could anyone give a little nudge to how I'd configure Simcraft to run the same test.

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Old 09/07/11, 5:37 PM   #128
Moshne
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SimC unfortunately doesn't handle syncing trinkets up with the Fire Elemental very well, it is a very large issue with trying to answer your question. I'm actually working on trying to figure out how much each ability scales, but it is very time consuming for the reasons you listed.

However, if you want your Elemental to attack dummies, the simple fix is just to make sure you are actively attacking it (with Flame Shock on it) while you run your test.

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Old 09/12/11, 10:54 PM   #129
Balbus
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I am trying to maximise my performance. I am working with Levvas great tool SAA. Here is my question: Are you using this tool yourself? Or are those of you who got MW2_LB in their priority list just using something like power auras and manage to master your prioritiy list manually?

The other way around: How do i get a MW2_LB Priority set in SAA? As far as I can see, it offers only MW3_LB. Same to ST>0. Right now I just refresh it manually in the gap in wich I am working to build in LvB from now on.

Next question: How Do you successfully track that you got 2 Landslide procs up? Power Auras is not able to solve this.

Last edited by Balbus : 09/12/11 at 11:20 PM.

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Old 09/17/11, 7:37 PM   #130
Suryaa
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Originally Posted by Balbus View Post
I am trying to maximise my performance. I am working with Levvas great tool SAA. Here is my question: Are you using this tool yourself? Or are those of you who got MW2_LB in their priority list just using something like power auras and manage to master your prioritiy list manually?

The other way around: How do i get a MW2_LB Priority set in SAA? As far as I can see, it offers only MW3_LB.


Go to: Blizzard\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\ShockAndAwe\Priority (the LUA file inside your ShockAndAwe file on your computer)

scroll down till you see

ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.name["mw3_lb"] = L["MW3 Lightning Bolt"]
ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.icon["mw3_lb"] = ShockAndAwe.constants["Lightning Bolt Icon"]
ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.test["mw3_lb"]
function ()
return ShockAndAwe.db.char.msstacks >= 3
end
and change the 3s to 2s

ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.name["mw2_lb"] = L["MW2 Lightning Bolt"]
ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.icon["mw2_lb"] = ShockAndAwe.constants["Lightning Bolt Icon"]
ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.test["mw2_lb"]
function ()
return ShockAndAwe.db.char.msstacks >= 2
end
Now MW_3 will be replaced with MW_2 in your ShockAndAwe priority list options

Do Not copy and paste because the format is not exact, edit manually

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Old 09/19/11, 12:58 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by Balbus View Post
Next question: How Do you successfully track that you got 2 Landslide procs up? Power Auras is not able to solve this.
Power Auras can distinguish between MH and OF procs, however, you need to tell it to do so. Make sure you have 1 PA with "Activation By" set to Weapon Enchant and in the text box you can type "main/landslide" to track just your main heand's proc. You can set up the same PA with "off/landslide" in the text box to track your offhands Landslide.


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Old 09/19/11, 2:10 PM   #132
MakeMeLaugh
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Hello, I noticed yesterday something weird on my combat log, I do not have the legendary staff but here is what happened:
Makemelaugh's Fulmination hits Promenade Sentinel for 44045 Nature.(Critical)
Makemelaugh's Fulmination hits Promenade Sentinel for 44045 Nature.(Critical)
Makemelaugh's Earth Shock hits Promenade Sentinel for 6072 Nature.
Makemelaugh's Earth Shock hits Promenade Sentinel for 6072 Nature.
Makemelaugh's Lightning Bolt hits Promenade Sentinel for 14144 Nature.
Makemelaugh's Lightning Bolt hits Promenade Sentinel for 14144 Nature.

It's not happening with all my casts. I'm using mikScrollingBattleText and it does show Fulmination x2 and etc.. Maybe its just a glitch?

Edit: Recount also says 2 fulminations when that happened

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Old 09/20/11, 11:44 AM   #133
Moshne
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That is a common combat log glitch, it isn't actually happening. The staff doesn't duplicate the damage done, just the cast, so the odds of having the exact same damage done is incredibly low.

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Old 09/20/11, 4:18 PM   #134
Marauding Master
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With the new Brewfest, how do the new trinkets rank up for Enhancement, specifically the spellpower one?

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Old 09/21/11, 2:06 AM   #135
TehDome
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Orc Shaman
 
Blackrock (EU)
Since i found no way to sim it, i've got a pretty basic question:

How exactly do you guys open a fight? Do you strictly follow the priority queue from the very beginning or do you think there is a better way to do it?
Last night on normal Ragnaros i peaked at about 36k dps after some seconds and i think a lot of crit/proc luck was involved, but i'm usually gradually climbing in dps until im pretty stable around 30/31k in tank'n'spank situations.

So this is how i start the fight:
prepot
autohit + redrop searing totem
on-use-effects (currently engineer gloves+orc racial) + storm strike
follow priority queue (first lava lash will hit with 1 searing flames stack)

Yeah, it's basically just following the priority queue, but i dont know if there's more to it.
Using lava lash before storm strike seems to be bad (lava lash 1 gcd earlier ready, but no 4t12 debuff and no searing flames stack)
How about delaying the first lava lash for additional searing flames stacks?


How do you guys do it?

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