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Old 08/30/12, 6:42 AM   #16
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Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
Are we sure that we always recieve 50% more haste from gear, or just when flury is up? From the way the talent reads, it is only when flurry is up. I know that flurry uptime is good, but its not 100%.

Then again, Blizz has never been known for their grammar!

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Old 08/30/12, 7:49 AM   #17
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Ragnaros
I tested a little of flurry proc, the haste benefit comes up from 0 to 50%, scales are gone. And the uptime in my case fighting the dummy was about 75%.

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Old 08/30/12, 10:29 AM   #18
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Mannoroth (EU)
I've added a Weak Auras Priority List for 5.0.4 LvL 85.
Hope it's fine and all right.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 08/30/12, 10:53 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by msnja View Post
Looks like Hurricane become better then Landslide is till leveling will begin.
Is that with the Elemental Mastery talent or the Echo of the Elements, since one build is Haste->Mastery and the other is Mastery->Haste? And, for the mst->hst build, would Avalanche be better - or is Avalanche not effected by Enhance's mastery? Been dealing with the Ret changes all week and my Shammy raids tomorrow.

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Old 08/31/12, 2:17 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by swingmaster View Post
Are we sure that we always recieve 50% more haste from gear, or just when flury is up? From the way the talent reads, it is only when flurry is up. I know that flurry uptime is good, but its not 100%.

Then again, Blizz has never been known for their grammar!
Only when Flurry is up, I tested how it works extensively on the Beta.


Originally Posted by Grognard View Post
Is that with the Elemental Mastery talent or the Echo of the Elements, since one build is Haste->Mastery and the other is Mastery->Haste? And, for the mst->hst build, would Avalanche be better - or is Avalanche not effected by Enhance's mastery? Been dealing with the Ret changes all week and my Shammy raids tomorrow.
Avalanche is affected by mastery. As for using Hurricane, unless I see numbers it's just speculation.

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Old 08/31/12, 9:21 AM   #21
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Another couple of things I have noticed since the patch dropped is that both grace of air and burning wrath are not showing up on our buff bars until we actually party with someone. I do believe that we are getting the buffs ( my mastery stayed the same partied and not partied ) but the buffs don't show. Unleashed rage is still showing as always, just not the other two. Also, unleashed rage has lost its expertise component, so don't be surprised when your expertise is surprisingly low!!!

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Old 09/01/12, 5:25 PM   #22
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Capacitor Totem used with Totemic Projection is quite an effective combination. You really don't need to worry about proper initial totem placement, just project your capacitor totem to the final destination when there is under 1 second till it is charged. This effectively gives us an aoe stun that can be cast with a 40 yard range!

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Old 09/02/12, 12:56 AM   #23
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Flametongue and Windfury

I'm new to enh. I gather that having windfury on one weapon and flametongue on the other is the way to go, but does it matter which I put on which?

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Old 09/02/12, 4:45 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by whyttedragun View Post
I'm new to enh. I gather that having windfury on one weapon and flametongue on the other is the way to go, but does it matter which I put on which?
You should imbue your Main Hand weapon with Windfury, and Off Hand weapon with Flametongue.

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Old 09/02/12, 9:48 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Deadtime View Post
I've added a Weak Auras Priority List for 5.0.4 LvL 85.
Hope it's fine and all right.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

My Spec
Mists of Pandaria - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

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This is my "newest" up to date priority.
If you having any problems with it, or think there should be something changed, text me. (I'm not perfect)

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Old 09/07/12, 1:38 PM   #26
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about the Echo talent i noticed the other day i had a string of proccs on Flameshock casts and since this doesn't double the DoT i was wondering if this is a significant dps loss instead of using an Earthshock that can proc or was it just a bad string of procs

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Old 09/07/12, 10:15 PM   #27
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Old 09/08/12, 5:40 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by cpanderson View Post
about the Echo talent i noticed the other day i had a string of proccs on Flameshock casts and since this doesn't double the DoT i was wondering if this is a significant dps loss instead of using an Earthshock that can proc or was it just a bad string of procs
Well considering that you cannot control the procs, and that FS still does a hefty amount more damage than a single ES, it's just something that you have to live with.

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Old 09/09/12, 11:10 AM   #29
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Even though you should use the FS Glyph, so you only have to use FS every 30 seconds (every second UE cooldown), which should already increase your ES counter by a lot.

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Old 09/17/12, 10:26 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by swingmaster View Post
I know that flurry uptime is good, but its not 100%.
I've been reaching 94% uptime on the 85 level dummy. I can assume that with a 5% Crit buff and Stat buffs like Kings/MOTW and Flask/Food, the uptime should be near 100%, which means we should probably be getting almost full uptime on the 50% Haste buff.

However, that may change drastically on heavy movement fights, where sometimes you may lose the Flurry buff. However, considering the 15s duration, I think this is practically impossible, unless of course you die.

I have a question about Flame Shock uptime : I've been doing 50m damage tests on a 85 level dummy, and I've also been checking my logs for fights such as Ultraxion(Typical patchwerk fight), and I haven't been able to achieve greater than 90% uptime on Ultraxion. I think it is possible with a few more attempts on it I could push it to 95%, but I'm speaking from experience. I find that there are times when I've had to delay casting FS because I've had MW stacks shooting up or LL/SS coming off of CD.

I did notice that I was getting some of the priorities wrong but I still think that it's impossible to account for such a great decrease in uptime. Has anyone been able to reach near 100% uptime on Ultraxion or Yor'sahj?

Also, another question regarding FE/EE/SW. Do these benefit from Heroism/Bloodlust if we were to cast them after Heroism? What about dynamic stat gains?

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