Enhance me [5.3] - Now with 100% more CDs and 232% more haste-love! - Page 4

Cishir · 10/10/12, 5:16 AM

Originally Posted by Myranne

With the current changes to our elemental's in MoP, shouldn't we have our Fire Ele as the main priority as it gives us stacks.

This was answered already. Like any other major damage CD it isn't rotational, some fights require certain places for such CDs to be used. Use it when you feel it is best, or if there is no such instance on a particular fight, then off of cooldown.

Mileylól · 10/10/12, 11:19 AM

When we're in Ascendance is it still worth hardcasting LB with MW3_UF?

Pyrdon · 10/10/12, 12:08 PM

As the priority shows (at least I think it does): no. I'm sure I saw that somewhere...

Ryethe · 10/15/12, 10:37 AM

Word of warning for fellow enhancers:
For Elegon HM your ST will not target Elegon while in the bubble. The best you can do is use FE for 2/3 P1s and magma the rest of P1. For P2 your totem will correctly target the pillars. This means that you will have ~3 minutes out of a 9 minute fight where you are not generating SF stacks.

If anyone wants to tag along, I've made a bug post here:
Searing Totem will not target Elegon on HM - Forums - World of Warcraft

Cishir · 10/16/12, 6:23 AM

So I am sitting at 487 item level right now and what I am discovering is that my stat priority is Mastery = Crit > Haste (1.43, 1.43, 1.35) which is basically telling me that my gear right now is going to be entirely on item level due to the extra agility and other stats that I gain. Is my gear just in a weird place or do you guys think I can expect that to continue? I am kind of new to simcraft (used enhsim forever) so I wasn't sure if I hit a wrong button or something, I have been surprised by my results once I got decked out a bit.

Pyrdon · 10/16/12, 7:37 AM

Yeah, that may happen. Sometimes I get similiar results, so I don't think Simc is broken nor do we hit wrong buttons.

Right now - for me - all three stats are even closer than you posted.

There are two things you could do now:
1. Try reforging some (maybe 300-400) haste into crit/mastery and run SimC again to find out, if its just a weird gear point or if you could indeed need some more crit. For e.g. crit favors Flurry uptime which again favors haste.
2. Try to use the "plot" function (found under options) or maybe even the "reforge plot". First on shows you the DPS gain and loss if you add the choosen stats while the second one provides you with a graph that shows you what happens, if you reforge for e.g. haste to mastery and vice versa.
Note: "plot" and "reforge plot" take a long time to sim (second one even longer). I usually run the later one on 4 threads for only haste and mastery and it takes 2h+ - just a warning.

Vaxym · 10/18/12, 11:56 AM

So if I understand the Guide :
1- I don't need to use Fire nova spell in my cycle ?
2- I can't understand how to open the fight exactly with my stuff and how to continue a right cycle .
3- Which stats do i need to UP : "Haste" or "Mastery", because the ratio still nearly the same .

Methticål · 10/25/12, 4:16 AM

I use ascendance with fire ele on the pull almost always. High burst, big numbers. Its usually up again when needing to pop hero/lust.

Pyrdon · 10/25/12, 7:53 AM

Hey Vaxym:
1. No, you don't use Fire Nova in your cycle for a single target. But the more targets you have, the more interesting it gets. For two targets, I would recommend using FN each time there is nothing else to do. But for 5 oder more targets, I would nearly hit it on cooldown for example.

2. Since you will be opening most fights from a distance, you are probably going to open with UE followed by buffed FS.
My pulls for e.g. are as followed:

Time in relation to pull	Action
-5	Spirit Walk
-3	Feral Spirit
-1	Fire Elemental / Prepot
0	Start running to the boss
0.5	Unleash Elements
2	FS
2-3	arrive at boss
3.5	Stormstrike
5	Pop Ascendance, trinkets etc with next Stormblast
6.5	Usually have 5 stacks of Searing Flame, so LL / Otherwise use ES or Stormlash Totem

3. The ratio will stay nearly the same for a long time. So, either you try to balance them or stack one of them (which then again favors the other two stats and so on. Binkenstein just released a blog on Totemspot regarding exactly that topic).

Ryethe · 11/28/12, 11:00 AM

As of 5.1 it seems that Shamanistic Rage is off the GCD.

Also we can no longer kill totems with a macro. This has also broke mods like TotemTimers. The only way to kill totems now is either the use Totemic Recall or have the default totem bar somewhere on your screen and click the totem off.

Pyrdon · 11/28/12, 11:19 AM

I'll try to confirm this and add this to the patch note section. Thank you for mentioning.

Pyrdon · 11/29/12, 6:45 AM

Important change! Not everyone might check the changes-notes regularly, but nearly everyone should know:
Glyph of FlameShock seems no longer to be a DPS increase but a DPS loss regarding SimCraft. Check the priority section in the guide to get more detailed information.
I'm not sure where this comes from or if we just overlooked it from the beginning. Purge mentioned that the last few changes in beta might have shifted the shock damage.

sirtyface · 11/29/12, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by Pyrdon

Important change! Not everyone might check the changes-notes regularly, but nearly everyone should know:
Glyph of FlameShock seems no longer to be a DPS increase but a DPS loss regarding SimCraft. Check the priority section in the guide to get more detailed information.
I'm not sure where this comes from or if we just overlooked it from the beginning. Purge mentioned that the last few changes in beta might have shifted the shock damage.

I noticed this in the SimulationCraft T14H profile a couple weeks ago. I simulated my own gear, and the glyph still came out as a DPS increase. I'm not sure if this has changed since, and I'm at work so I can't test it. It seems that the scaling of Flame Shock's up-front portion (combined with UE) out-damages ES at a certain gear point.

TLOlol · 11/30/12, 2:55 PM

Can't understand why FS glyphed could be a DPS loss. You're usually gaining 1 extra Earth Shock, which means more direct damage (despite of some direct FS damage can overpass ES) while FS is ticking thank to the DoT.

I would appreaciate an explanation as soon as you can check it 100% sure, thanks in advance.

Ryethe · 12/01/12, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by TLOlol

Can't understand why FS glyphed could be a DPS loss. You're usually gaining 1 extra Earth Shock, which means more direct damage (despite of some direct FS damage can overpass ES) while FS is ticking thank to the DoT.

I would appreaciate an explanation as soon as you can check it 100% sure, thanks in advance.

Remember that SC assumes 0 movement, 0 AOE, 0 target switching, etc. So while it makes sense for stand still DPS encounters, think twice before you remove this glyph for every encounter just because SC told you to.