I thought that aura style damage didn't proc water shield charges? It used to be really overpowered back in the day and thats why it was changed so most auras or consistent damage were removed from the trigger list.

Thank you for providing with the logs, they confirm my suspicions about Glyph of Water shield not being as useful as we originally thought it would be or in the best case is marginally the same as running without it. On the table below I will use the example above and one of my HC kills. (I have almost identical numbers in the NM kills too so comparing them is easy). The amount of mana in Unglyphed and Glyphed portion of the table illustrates the total amount gained by adding the ticks and the passive gain for the duration of the fight.

Garalon	#Ticks	Fight Dur.	Unglyphed WS	Glyphed WS	Mana Diff.	MP5	Spirit
Therya	8	6:59	202588	187426	15162	180.93	324.95
Erogash	16	6:52	223019	219993	3026	36.72	65.95

As we can see from above in both cases it is better not to use the glyph of Water Shield. In fact in my kills where the number of ticks is consistently fluctuating from 7 to 9 we can see that my theoretical MP5 gain from not using the glyph is around 180 which is equal to adding 325 extra spirit to our gear by comparison. In Erogash's kill, he got hit more times due to extra crushes however even that marginally made running without the glyph better. My calculations for all NM and HM fights of this tier have been consistent with this conclusion, making Water Shield glyph almost obsolete.

In the quote you posted I was referring specifically in the abnormality of HTT and HST behavior. I am not crusading against haste, in that sentence and in all of the posts regarding this matter I am only trying to impress to people that if they are hoping to get an extra tick by reforging to 3764 they wont. It is therefore better to reforge down to 3039 and drop AS. If someone doesn't want to drop AS that is fine but I find personally that combining Ascedance with Elemental Mastery goes a long way.
I happen to agree about haste being a good stat however it comes with a price.
In Mists of Pandaria we can't rely on TC anymore for mana regen as we did in Cata and this is where haste loses some of its value. Especially when thinking about balancing our secondaries.Hence I do believe its better to allocate said points in mastery or crit. The real question is how much. I have already said that we should be striving for a haste breakpoint only when we are somewhat close to it. The 871haste breakpoint does not apply for a heroic raider for example.It is impossible for me to reforge below 2500haste at this point which means I actually reforged up to 3039 and dropped AS. For raiders like myself this is probably the most viable solution. For players that are just starting out 871 should be what they are aiming for, after all it will be hard for them to make it higher unless they aim also for the 3039(12.51%)breakpoint with AS. My opinion still stands that the rest of the 700points that would be needed to reach the 3764 should be allocated to either mastery or crit depending on what you are missing. This argument of haste vs mastery vs crit has been around for many tiers. Playstyle, raid composition, healing assignment , current progression have a lot to do with your secondaries and it is what everyone should be considering when reforging.

One last note. If you find that you don't have enough time to heal your raid then you are not at a stressful point of progression, meaning you are almost on farming status. In previous tiers we always go for haste when we reach that point so it makes sense you would value haste more. While in hard core progression however (or any type of progression where healing is not a walk in the park) mastery and crit will be more valuable considering the parameters the game is imposing on us (mostly concerning HST and HTT behavior).

I am not sure how to recalculate the total amount of mana we would get under the effects of Hymn of Hope while having 3039haste but I am sure the difference with casting at 5676haste will be roughly the same as without Hymn.Hymn of Hope is not a reliable buff to count on while in any raid , it is just a boon for whoever gets to benefit from it but for this specific example TC was under its effect for some amount of time during the fight. The point I was trying to make was that for what it concerns mana returns from TC , stacking haste is not an option. This conundrum has been out there for a long time, a lot of people are wondering if with higher levels of haste TC returns will be greater however the actual amount ( in our case half a blue spirit gem ) does not justify the reforge. Another point I was trying to make is that therefore these points should be allocated to crit and mastery instead and presented with the math to support that indeed the mana gains from crit on an average (and that is very important) will be more.Case and point, the example Omgitsfrank ( who coincidentally is also on my server therefore I had a short talk with him to verify results) whose crit levels in raid are 22.60% is a good example why in an average his resurgence results with some correct spell usage would be greater. Mana returns from crit unfortunately are very unreliable on their own and are highly connected with our spell usage. It is however safe to calculate an average and base some conclusions on that. If however in a fight we find ourselves only using HR and HST of course mana returns from crit would be minuscule and out of this discussion.

I never said that LB is costing you healing spell usage.The opposite. I assumed that if someone is instead using Totemic recall will actually sit for 2.5min of the fight with the exception of movement and recalling totems. However you can see that for this 2.5min if you were even casting HW which barely costs any mana it would be more beneficial. Your example if anything strengthens my point of crit being more valuable than haste due to resurgence returns and possibly due to HPS gained from that extra crit. A final note, the HoT portion of the RT does not proc resurgence only the direct initial heal. The extra tics however will add to your HPS.

Considering my note on why someone would feel that he is going faster oom when not using TC. When you spend 2.5min of a fight casting LB then inadvertently you are not casting any healing spells. However you do "feel" you are doing something and the mana returns justify your time spend. If you weren't casting TC and chose Totemic recall suddenly you find yourself gaining all that extra time. It is hard to convince anyone to not cast healing spells for 2.5min of the fight thus draining even more your mana rather than gaining even that little percent. Shamans will end up getting caught into casting bigger and more expensive spells thus loosing even more mana. My recommendation however is not to drop TC. This is what I want to point out. This whole discussion was about whether its more beneficial to reforge to higher haste breakpoints than 3039 .I am actually running with both TC and Totemic recall since I find the rest of my options when it comes to major glyphs are not so viable for most of the fights. That said Totemic recall will win the race over TC in any fight they are up against. As a personal note I am using both with my third choice changing depending on the fight. If I do need to replace one of them TC will be the one being replaced.