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Old 10/05/12, 10:48 AM   #16
MissnL1nK
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Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Iol View Post
I assume you mean Ancestral Swiftness? AS does stack with w/e source of 5% spellhaste raid buff.
Yes I did mean AS, sorry for the typo.

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Old 10/06/12, 1:23 AM   #17
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I may have been wrong... It looks like it stacks with Elemental Oath, but not moonkin aura... Anyone else noticed that?

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Old 10/06/12, 12:33 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Iol View Post
I may have been wrong... It looks like it stacks with Elemental Oath, but not moonkin aura... Anyone else noticed that?
Both buffs are in the 5% haste class- the shaman will have the buff present even if it is not shown on blizzard's buff bar. The same us true with Burning Wrath when solo.

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Old 10/07/12, 3:36 AM   #19
stom
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Zul'Jin
Stupid question probably but I was wondering if the Relic of Chi Ji and Spirits of the Sun would have any proccing problems due to thier close resemblance?

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Old 10/08/12, 1:26 PM   #20
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Korgath
I am just curious as to what DPS people seem to be doing at roughly 465 Item Level as Elemental?
World of Logs has people pushing over 300,000 DPS, while I am sitting at around 50k, spiking up to 90k or so when I pop all my cooldowns w/ Bloodlust and such.

Is there something I'm doing severely wrong?

I am using the priority listed on Elitist Jerks with Elemental Blast talent, I do make some mistakes but I don't see how I am down by 260,000 DPS.

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Old 10/08/12, 4:21 PM   #21
tuurgan
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Kilrogg
Does anyone know whether or not enhance has some sort of spreadsheet going for them?

I looked around and was unable to find anything via the net

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Old 10/15/12, 4:45 AM   #22
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Alonsus (EU)
Would it be recommended for Elemental to dot up additional targets with Flame Shock in hopes of getting more Lava Burst procs? Imagine a scenario with a boss and 1 or 2 adds which you know will live long enough for a full (almost full) duration of Flame Shock. I know it would be hard to determine if it is a dps gain or loss because of rng, just wondering if anyone is doing it also and what are his/her comments?

I got another question: Is it smart to use a stopcasting macro on Lava Burst procs while casting Lightning Bolt; if you could do it let's say before reaching the middle of the cast?

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Old 10/15/12, 10:51 AM   #23
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The second question also came uo over at Totem Spot and Bink and Haarne answered as followed:
Always Be Casting! Not using procs because of a second proc while LvB is already off CD may feel like you lost something, but if you tried to stopcast, you will at least loose a whole GCD and whatever time you were already casting. Thats even worse than not using one LavaSurge proc.

Here's the thread over at TotemSpot
Lava Burst

Regarding your first questions, I can only assume it might be a DPS gain for one or two adds, if you are not able to cast CL. If you would do that, you might lose to many Lightning Shield stacks by not using Eart Shock, but I'm by no means sure about that.

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Old 10/15/12, 4:00 PM   #24
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Got answer.

Last edited by Mudrac : 11/23/12 at 10:07 AM. Reason: can't delete post

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Old 10/17/12, 8:25 AM   #25
SeraphisDH
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Doomhammer (EU)
Greetings

I have a question about the fire elemental.
I took the talent Prime Elementalist. Should we control the spells of the fire elemental on bosses or just let the spells be on auto-cast?

Which is recommended?

Ty in advance

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Old 10/18/12, 3:31 PM   #26
Ronark
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For the most part (as a DPS) you can let it auto cast, but you can direct to to attack specific targets. If for whatever reason the Elemental cannot reach the boss (Say, Nef Phase 2), have it channel Empower on you.

As Restoration, the only benefit for the Elementals is to have them channel on you to increase your heal and reduce damage taken (with Earth).

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Old 10/19/12, 10:09 AM   #27
Cronoz
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Kor'gall (EU)
Originally Posted by Anonymus View Post
Would it be recommended for Elemental to dot up additional targets with Flame Shock in hopes of getting more Lava Burst procs? Imagine a scenario with a boss and 1 or 2 adds which you know will live long enough for a full (almost full) duration of Flame Shock. I know it would be hard to determine if it is a dps gain or loss because of rng, just wondering if anyone is doing it also and what are his/her comments?

I got another question: Is it smart to use a stopcasting macro on Lava Burst procs while casting Lightning Bolt; if you could do it let's say before reaching the middle of the cast?
Are you referring to the Mogu'shan vault bosses?
Because I find the new raids perfect for multi dotting a.k.a. spreading multiple flameshocks. I've tested it several times and yes it does increase your LB proc. The max targets I tried it on was about 5 individual ones and LB kept proccing one after another. The only conclusion I can make is that it does increase overall dmg although Im not sure by how much %.
You do however have to practise your rotations if you want to keep earth shock or elemental blast in your rotation.

@ Obeliske:
In theory Enhancement Shamans deal more dmg then Elemental Shamans in top tier raids. However if you play elemental class perfectly it's not that big of a difference, I believe it was 7k dps on max gear/setup.

LB = LvB (Lavaburst), sorry if people get confused with Lightning Bolt

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Old 10/25/12, 6:25 PM   #28
Catparty
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Thunderlord
Does each jump of Chain Lightning or Lava Beam have a chance to proc Echo of the Elements? Essentially, does the proc rate of CL and LBeam range from 12%-30% in cleave situations?

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Old 10/26/12, 2:57 PM   #29
Ronark
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If Lava Beam/CL procs like it does for Overload then yes, each jump has a chance to proc Echo. However I believe that Echo acted on a PPM factor making additional proc chances redundant.

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Old 10/28/12, 9:29 PM   #30
Dostula
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CL has in total the same chance to proc echo as LB which means that each hit (no matter if you use the glyph or not) has a lower chance than LB eg. lets say LB has a chance of 30% then each Cl hit wihout glyph has a chance of 10% with the glyph only 6%

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