2Binkenstein: now can dowloading only bugged Elemental Item Comp Alpha (03/16/2008) or any new version?

I see the weight stats in the main thread, But where can I find the AEP stats for the Shamstats31 spreadsheet I use. There are default settings on the spread sheet, I found some other stats floating around. But of course they give me different values and make my gear priorities different. Any suggestings ? My guild just started hjyal and BT before the patch and I recently spec'd elemental, so I'm a little behind where I should be.

Thank you in advance,

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From last night's BT, my lightning bolt miss percent was roughly 0.7% to 1.4%, so it appears as though TLC currently benefits from our spell hit total. Are Whave and I the only two testing this out at the moment? I'd love to try and get a bigger sample size if possible...while a run here and there can give an idea, it's far from conclusive.

Yeah I still plan to put crimson spinels is nearly all my red sockets. Yellows of course will get haste/dmg. And blues, meh, not sure there. Try not to overly think on that. Hopefully I can at least make some socket bonuses with my blues (well T6 chest/hat will last me a while). As for the dps on Brutallus, yeah I can easily see myself doing that if I got 2 heroisms and a 50% crit rate over a 6 minute fights. I've done nearly 1800 before on Kazrogal with 2 pieces of SR gear on a 3-4 minute fight with one heroism and a 50% crit rate.

Im seeing the same thing with LC. Im constantly watching and checking my resist rate with recount and havn't noticed anything abnormal with my LB resists. Just the standard ~1% or so..

Regarding TLC, over the course of last nights Hyjal raid I had 0.8% resist rate according to:
Gintan - WWS

The only time TLC wasn't equipped was for our Rage kill, which seems to have bugged out on WWS anyway.

On Skycall:

I wrote a Skycall sim that takes Overload into account as well as a 1% miss rate. I'm going under the assumption that a resisted spell cannot proc anything.

I set it to take a variable initial haste, and using my baseline of 113 haste I saw 66.87% uptime using LB spam. That sounds about right. (I'm tending to use LB spam primarily since I lack both JoW and a spriest in my raid)

I plan on updating it to accept a 4/1 rotation, but wanted to get feedback on my assumption first.

To the best of my knowledge, I have not seen Overload or Skycall proc when a Bolt was resisted, but it happens so infrequently, I'm not entirely sold. Do we know for sure if a resist can or cannot cause a proc?

I'm almost entirely positive a resisted LB can still proc LO since an LO proc is calculated before the actual hit/miss is calculated.

Not sure about anybody else but my LB and CL never misses but have a 2.4% to 3.2% resist rate with 5 pen, and 92 hit rating from gear and 9% from talents and 3% from totem witch equals 19.29% to hit. I know that is overboard but its the gear not enchants or gems that put me there. The World of Warcraft Armory
You cant look at the all missed column with WWS becuase thats includes miss, resist, dodge, block, and parry.
I do have misses on my ES.

Wow Web Stats

Given that a number of the items from there have shown up already, I would say it is likely.
See post about a beta by the end of the week... hopefully...
Are you looking at the web-based WWS, or the HTML that the parser generates?
One of our officers is using that for our own hosted charts, and it breaks everything down by LB, CL, LB OL, CL OL, so I can guess that it will handle TLC in the same way.

You may find it hard to keep a high crit rate if you gem for damage/haste.
Using Potent rather than reckless I'd get an extra 45 crit rating, which I think would be more valuable than 45 haste rating

Granted, this is an anecdote, but I had it happen last night, and was surprised by it. I'll try and get an SS of it the next time it happens.

51% crit rate on LB...

From what I've looked at, going from T6 to T6.5 will keep you about the same crit from gear. However according to both Daidalos and your spreadsheets, haste is worth about 1.5 crit. I know some of that will drop when you get more spell haste, because that will make crit and damage more valuable, but honestly until you start breaking 300 haste or so crit imo should not be socketed instead of haste. Provided you have a shadow priest of course. If you don't run with one, then of course you need the regen that spell crit provides. But I am always with a SP and almost always have a Ret pally in raid, so mana is really not an issue at all.

Our elemental shaman was able to push 1730 dps or so on brutallus without a shadowpriest which was fairly close to the max that was theorycrafted for him (1751 exactly was what was expected)...he probably could have done more but was very worried bout going oom, so stuck purely to LB spam. Wow Web Stats . (Note hes for some reason classifised as a mob, called Maho.)

In general how do people feel elemental shamans will compare to mages/locks in the future? To me, it seems they are worth having just purely for the group buffs since we run quite shaman light (just 2 resto, and hopefully 1 elemental)..but will the advent of haste gear cause a larger gap between the shaman and other ranged dpsers? Because I am already seeing wws of 2500dps locks and hunters-there is simply no way a shaman can come close to that.

Not everyone has a shadow priest, and ret paladins cannot justify their raid position for alliance.

Generally, an elemental will be doing just short of 2k dps at that point, and can add anywhere between 300 and 500 dps to their group from totems, as well as bringing another heroism to the raid, wipe recovery, and a temporary heal option.

I would disagree with you on the ret pallie. Ours on Teron does upwards of 1650 dps. Add to that his aura, the 3% crit buff plus uptime on judgements makes him imo very much worth a raid spot.

Hi,

from my point of view even if it procs that often and can be seen as +60 dmg necklase there are other options to choose (which are not that hard to get)

a short sum up of t5 comparable necks...

klick me

Pendant of Acumen would be ~63 stat points overall

Do you happen to have a link to your Elemental Shaman's Armory? That way, we can see what kind of gear is putting out that level of DPS with LB spam.

Thanks.

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence. I'll take that as good enough, and not stress over such a small probability. I'll try and put a rotation choice into the sim at some point today and test a few thousand casts at 4/1 as well. Are there any other variables/tests that I should include? I'm hoping to come up with results to allow us to normalize the affect of Skycall to a number we can agree upon and that will be useful.

The World of Warcraft Armory I believe is fairly close to what he was wearing on that fight...not sure if its exact though. Certainly not the best gear by any means, and he did have drums.

I have the Exalted neck, and while my testing has not been extensive, I'm not impressed. The base stats on it are pretty poor, and the duration of the proc is quite low as well. With a 30 sec internal CD, and 10 sec duration, even with a perfect proc rate (which it doesn't have), you'd be getting only 40 dmg from the proc

EDIT: Deleted all my bad math until I have some more solid findings, don't want anyone grinding/not grinding this faction based on faulty info.

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However, the reason I responded was to caution your replacing of the TLC with what is essentially a mana regen trinket If you have "unlimited mana with a shadowpriest" and are actually getting one, that trinket is not better, not even close.

Any idea if that bolt from the scryer version of the neck can proc a TLC charge?