I ticketed a GM afew days ago explicitly asking whether "Repetition of a key" is acceptable, whether it be by a G15 keyboard or AHK. The GM said as long as you are physically sat pressing the keys that were being repeated then there was no problem and it was just the same as a auto-fire function. He actually said he wasn't aware that a G15 keyboard could do it and was going to go out and buy one for his fire mage :P

Blizzard class botting as automated character control with no human interaction, which is where the "you need to be at the keyboard pressing the keys" comes from.

I've installed it and haven't figured out how to make it show anymore than just my latency. /laginfo does nothing and I didnt see any obvious documentation associated with the mod.

Sorry to change the topic but I have a gear question:

Lately I have been debating all the haste I have been using. As it currently stands I have 182 haste, with 1078 damage (with 23.23% to crit with all spells). I do not have access to the 4piece t6 (I will not for awhile, although I do have the 2piece t6). I was thinking if I switched haste gems to crit gems, my dps would increase since I could use the 3/1 rotation. Personally in raids I need to chain chug mana pots to stay efficient (otherwise I go oom). So I could get 0 haste, 30.6% to crit with all spells, and 1099 damage. So I wanted some other perspectives on the situation.

When you're in a party or raid, mouse over the text display and it displays a tooltip. This will show everyone's measurement once it has collected data for them (which requires at least two consecutive casts).

So what would be the steps? Find the casters who are over 100 ms using LagInfo in the raid? Then get them to use something like AHK? Or what else can you suggest to them, as I know I have a lot of non-tech-savvy people I raid with?

The 'old fashioned way' I suppose: Quartz + spam their buttons more.

But I've talked total computer neophytes through installing AHK and then making the script for them to paste in. And then there are the Logitech keyboards.

The difference between mashing the key and using something like AHK/G15 is minimal if even existant at all with the queue system if you're using 1 spell, if you're at 160/240 you're just not mashing the key.

Run each setup and compare the dps output and time till OOM

182 Haste seems kind of high to be using a 3:1 rotation also. But definitely try what the poster above me said before you go spend the gold to regem. Another thing is whether or not you consistently get a shadow priest. A lot of people don't believe me when I tell them I run OOM without one but I can't spend more than 2000 mana in a 6 minute fight with one, but it makes that big of a difference.

Have you tested that statement? I have, and I notice a big difference. I suppose I could be mashing even faster when beating up on dr boom. but I think I would break my keyboard. In fact, I even noticed a difference between sending my lbolt command every millisecond vs. every 50 milliseconds. I tried asking before how the implementation of the queue system could make a difference and I didn't quite understand chaos's answer, so I decided to use empirical testing and I was surprised.

Quartz isn't really necessary, it's just to emphasize to people that they need to start spamming (or macro) before cast completion. Otherwise it does nothing. Edit: Oh, I do like the GCD 'spark bar' though.

Which is why I refer to it as the "spell queue" because it's not really one, but it kinda works that way.

Following that link, I saw this:
If this is correct, that may be part of the reason why we see odd behaviour around CL use.

I don't know your exact stats, so these are estimates based on my own gear with your crit, damage and haste put in. Also, I assumed the use of Lightning Capacitor, as I don't know what trinkets you have.

LB spam with haste:
dps:1720
oom in: 127 seconds

LB spam with crit:
dps: 1629
oom in: 159 seconds

CL-4LB with haste:
dps: 1,816
oom in: 79 seconds

CL-4LB with crit:
dps: 1721
oom in: 95

It's quite obvious that crit gives you more damage overall, however, that is only true if you can spend your whole mana pool. Considering LB spam with haste is as powerful as CL-4LB rotation with crit and lasts longer as well, it should be considered the superior of the two.

In other words: gogo, haste.

Correction to the bold part, if you're doing all crit with CL, you should be doing a 3:1 rotation for optimal DPS, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying there.

You're right, I'm sorry, I just plugged in the numbers with brain asleep :p

CL-3LB:
dps: 1742
oom in: 86 seconds

Are you remembering to account for the dead time in a 3-1 rotation? It's impossible to be casting the entire time. You can't queue a spell on cooldown. There's also some nonsense with lightning overload perhaps resetting the cooldown, but I don't remember exactly how that went.

The LO resetting CD was a speculation and testing has shown to the contrary.

Niley could you post the wws of that brut attempt/kill? I like to look and see how many drums/blood lusts/destro pots/BM Hunters shamans have when they start getting close to 2k in their wws's. We have not had very many runs to enrage in 2 nights of attempts (3 total I believe) so I've not had a chance to really gauge the impact of a full consumable/cool down run and crave input.

No more gimped eh?

If you have no haste, there is no dead time in 3-1. The delay has been calculated, of course, as a comparison with 4-1 rotation for low haste values.

Here's a sample based on my gear:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...spreadnath.jpg

Note: some figures like crit sum and haste sum will appear wrong. That's because I recently swapped gems from crit to haste and haven't come around to fixing the charts yet, so I just added "-40" value to crit and "+40" to haste totals.

Sure, here You go, just pick Brut from the drop down.
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and yeah, gimped is done for

I don't really post much in this thread, but I did manage a 2300 wws with 2 lusts and 2 people rotating drums. Also had a ret pally, 2 enhance shaman, and a moonkin. Killed him about 4 seconds prior to the enrage. If you wanted to view it.

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Also Niley your WWS seems to error out for me at least.

Wow @ your DPS. I really can't figure out how that works @_@

Judging by your armory, I've got more damage, more haste, and roughly the same crit, usually have 3 sets of drums vs your 2, and also get 2 Bloodlusts, and yet I sit usually at about 1950-1980.

Does a moonkin make that large of a difference?

At a second glance, I don't know if we've had an enhancement shaman the last few weeks, that's probably it, seeing as you had 2.