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Old 11/12/08, 2:34 PM   #1326
Vistol
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Stormrage
WotLK rep grinds

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Last edited by Vistol : 11/13/08 at 8:34 AM. Reason: becuse i'm an idiot

Ohh great i have 8 Main tanks signed up again and 4 healers.
 
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Old 11/12/08, 3:46 PM   5 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1327
Roywyn
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Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by Vistol View Post
I'm curious if anyone has any idea in regards to which faction(s) rep should be grinided out first? Should quests in some zones be skipped until regular dungeon rep gains have been capped out?
The problem you mention does not exist.

Reputation gains do not cap, at least not that I know of.
And you only gain reputation in high-level dungeons and all all heroics.


You also named Ebon Blade and linked Argent Crusade items in one sentence.
You'll get a lot of Ebon Blade reputation from regular questing, and quite some for Argent Crusade.
Wyrmrest is pretty much a pure Tabard dungeon grind however.

The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.
 
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Old 11/12/08, 4:00 PM   #1328
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Originally Posted by Daidalos View Post
One thing I've been wondering is what professions are people going for BC? I was LW and alch for the drums and pot mastery but now LW isn't looking all that exciting. The LW leg enchants are for melee/tanking so I'm thinking of switching to something but I can't decide what. Currently I'm thinking BS for the ability to add a socket to bracers and gloves but I'm not sure if thats really best since most all the BS patterns are plate.
Don't forget about the bracer enchants (and drums are still usable). I'm sticking with LW and Alchemy. Four hour flasks and that little extra boost from potions is still nice to have.

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Old 11/12/08, 5:19 PM   #1329
Talaus-Mok'Nathal
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Mok'Nathal
Originally Posted by sovelis41 View Post
Don't forget about the bracer enchants (and drums are still usable). I'm sticking with LW and Alchemy. Four hour flasks and that little extra boost from potions is still nice to have.
While drums are currently usable, they won't be at 80, so that benefit from LW is gone. As far as what to switch to, don't worry about BS only having plate available. Blizzard seems pretty insistant that no profession be "required" and as such doesn't have any (or very few) patterns in the game that won't be upgradable in Naxx. The sockest will add an equivalent bonus to the rest of the professions currently, and will get even better when epic gems get released.
 
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Old 11/12/08, 6:01 PM   #1330
Daidalos
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Korgath
Originally Posted by sovelis41 View Post
Don't forget about the bracer enchants (and drums are still usable). I'm sticking with LW and Alchemy. Four hour flasks and that little extra boost from potions is still nice to have.
Yeah even with the bracer enchants I'm not that exited about LW. With the long cooldown on drums and the enchants being melee and tanking oriented it just seems like its not the best for a caster class. Anyone run some min max comparisons of the dif professions for a caster class?

 
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Old 11/12/08, 7:43 PM   #1331
Talaus-Mok'Nathal
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Mok'Nathal
The leg work has been done. Here's a link to the post http://elitistjerks.com/904932-post854.html. This posts assumes epic gems are introduced. Until that point, JC is the best, offering the same SP boost as every other profession along with customizability by being able to use different gems as well as using "colorless" gems to get socket/meta bonuses. With epic gems, BS becomes god and JC loses it's potency, offering an addition 2 gem sockets, which gives 8 more SP than any other profession, as well as the different gem customizability.

So, from a strict SP/stat viewpoint,
Before epic gems: JC>BS=Insc=Alch=Ench=LW
After epic gems: BS>Insc=Alch=Ench=LW>JC
Keeping in mind that BS & JC offer more choices than other professions (Alch also offers a choice as well with flask/elixir use)
 
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Old 11/13/08, 11:19 AM   #1332
Daidalos
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Korgath
Originally Posted by Talaus-Mok'Nathal View Post
The leg work has been done. Here's a link to the post http://elitistjerks.com/904932-post854.html. This posts assumes epic gems are introduced. Until that point, JC is the best, offering the same SP boost as every other profession along with customizability by being able to use different gems as well as using "colorless" gems to get socket/meta bonuses. With epic gems, BS becomes god and JC loses it's potency, offering an addition 2 gem sockets, which gives 8 more SP than any other profession, as well as the different gem customizability.

So, from a strict SP/stat viewpoint,
Before epic gems: JC>BS=Insc=Alch=Ench=LW
After epic gems: BS>Insc=Alch=Ench=LW>JC
Keeping in mind that BS & JC offer more choices than other professions (Alch also offers a choice as well with flask/elixir use)
Great post. I think that pretty much confirms my hunch about BS. Esp with the ability to pick whichever gem I prefer to fill in the created socket. The only downside I see to BS is that the BOP drops from instances have always been plate. I think we should include this info in the wiki. I'll bug skyhoof about it.

 
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Old 11/13/08, 12:25 PM   #1333
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Cenarius
Good idea. I'll add a section on professions. Also, we could use some testing on [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond] (although it may be a few days before anyone makes one).

1) Wowhead lists a 2% chance to proc. However, it also lists 2% for [Insightful Earthstorm Diamond]and the actual proc rate for IED was 5% (or 3.85% if you took the hidden 15-second cooldown into account).

2) Is there a hidden cooldown. IED had a 15-second cooldown.

Also, I think we can safely say at this point that [Beaming Earthsiege Diamond]is a bad choice for resto shaman. We gain much more benefit from +2% Intellect rather than +2% mana. All the other meta gems could have potential depending on how much mana we're using at Level 80, crit/talent specs and how much running boss fights require.
 
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Old 11/13/08, 2:20 PM   #1334
Roywyn
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Mana Restore - Spell - World of Warcraft and Mana Restore - Spell - World of Warcraft

The procs both list a 5% chance under their actual effect.

The equip buff description are 2% and 300 mana for both (the new one has 600, not 200), so that points at some copy-paste without thinking.
Makes the 15s ICD pretty likely.

The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.
 
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