EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 103

Rouncer · 09/26/09, 1:42 PM

Originally Posted by Razanar

To you guys that are discussing the viability of Reverberation, have you considered the possibility of only going 4/5 instead of the full 5/5? At a 5.2 second cooldown, your shock would come off cooldown at the 15.6 second mark. This might provide a couple benefits, including an automatic safeguard against clipping the DoT, as well as freeing up a talent point to put in a place such as Improved Shields, at minimal-to-no DPS loss.

Of course, this is all only relevant if reverberation ends up being a DPS boost with 4/5 T9

How would 15.6 be any better then 15? The clipping I was talking about is of the last tick which occurs at 18 not the tick that occurs at 15 seconds. I'm not sure it's possible to clip the tick that occurs at 15 seconds with 5/5 reverb or the one that would occur at 18 seconds with 0/5 reverb. Since the cooldown would end as the tick occurs, your client's instruction to the server to cast the next Flame Shock should be a minimum of a latency period behind the server calculating that last DoT tick.

Ciege · 09/26/09, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by Razanar

To you guys that are discussing the viability of Reverberation, have you considered the possibility of only going 4/5 instead of the full 5/5? At a 5.2 second cooldown, your shock would come off cooldown at the 15.6 second mark. This might provide a couple benefits, including an automatic safeguard against clipping the DoT, as well as freeing up a talent point to put in a place such as Improved Shields, at minimal-to-no DPS loss.

Of course, this is all only relevant if reverberation ends up being a DPS boost with 4/5 T9

Rouncer is right, i was playing around with the shock rotation and for me it seemed 3/5 worked best, when latency was taken into account. I was able to get my 2 shocks off and right as the last dot tick occured i would re-apply the Flame Shock dot. This was me standing at a target dummy just spamming the shocks, no priority list. Later when i started working on a priority list basis instead, it change things ALOT. The most i was able to keep flame shock on the target i would say was about 85% of the time, as i was placing making sure the QE totem buff stayed up and even more important than that was using MWx5_LB. My priority list boils down to this

MWx5_LB
ToQE =< 7 seconds, LL
FS
ES_SS
SS
LL
LS
MT

Basically the same as Levva's, the only difference i added was to do LL if the QE buff was at 7 or less, so i could HOPEFULLY keep the buff up for a longer period of time, refreshing it rather than letting it drop.

Enkeedu · 09/26/09, 7:23 PM

This may be a moot point in a few days when we get an updated version of the simulator, but I was wondering what would be the best way to deal with the armor pen. adjustment in the current sim. I'm thinking not just in terms of modeling dps but adjusting the EP value.

I figured that a reasonable approximation would be to manually decrease my current arm. pen. value which I exported from S&A (multiply by 0.88 to account for the 12% decrease in effectiveness) to adjust the dps output from the simulator, and then apply the same 0.88 coefficient to the EP rating that the simulator gives me. I figured that the first adjustment takes care of the armor pen. I already have, and the second adjusts the rating for future gear that I may look at evaluating.

The difference is not extreme; my current stat went from 13.1 to 11.9 or so, and the EP value from 1.57 to 1.38. That seems reasonable to me, I suppose. Its already led me to swap one piece of gear so I'm just hoping I'm not off base.

Levva · 09/26/09, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Enkeedu

This may be a moot point in a few days when we get an updated version of the simulator, but I was wondering what would be the best way to deal with the armor pen. adjustment in the current sim. I'm thinking not just in terms of modeling dps but adjusting the EP value.

I figured that a reasonable approximation would be to manually decrease my current arm. pen. value which I exported from S&A (multiply by 0.88 to account for the 12% decrease in effectiveness) to adjust the dps output from the simulator, and then apply the same 0.88 coefficient to the EP rating that the simulator gives me. I figured that the first adjustment takes care of the armor pen. I already have, and the second adjusts the rating for future gear that I may look at evaluating.

The difference is not extreme; my current stat went from 13.1 to 11.9 or so, and the EP value from 1.57 to 1.38. That seems reasonable to me, I suppose. Its already led me to swap one piece of gear so I'm just hoping I'm not off base.

Errr no not really. EP values simply don't work like that. The EP value of any stat can't simply be multiplied by any change to it as there are plenty of interactions between a single stat and all the other stats in lots of different formulae.

Now as it happens ArP is a complex beast, as GC's formulae on the Blizzard forums showed and isn't directly linear however it is one of the more straightforward stats being a straight modifier to damage reduction. You also have to recall that it only affects around half our dps and so a 12% nerf to Arp will not be a 12% dps loss in fact it only modifies the damage reduction modifier on half our damage so its not even 6%. Assuming the damage reduction modifier you had from ArP is no more than 20-30% then 12% ArP loss is closer to .12*.25*.5 = 1.5%. Of course many will have a lot lower ArP than that and so lower dps loss.

Ryethe · 09/26/09, 11:27 PM

I wanted to do some quick comparisons with shock damage to see just how much DPS flameshock would add. In order to simulate this I used the Flame Shock glyph in the sim. For all intents and purposes this glyph should mimic what FS acts like on live without the glyph.

Steps:
1. 2 glyph slots filled with Stormstike and Feral Spirits (only Stormstrike is really important here due to the debuff) and 1 empty glyph slot.
2. Sim without FS in the rotation.
3. Add FS glyph to the third glyph slot (remember that this is the old FS glyph so it will mimic the way FS acts on live unglyphed)
4. Add FS to the rotation above SS_ES
5. Resim.

The difference between 2 and 5 is 10 DPS in favour of 2. Assuming that the new FS glyph adds 77DPS as Bink said then we're still looking at a loss compared to using the WF glyph.

I find it strange that the EnhShock spreadsheet Bink posted was reporting DPS gain without the new glyph when the sim clearly shows otherwise. Something is buggered up in one of the two.

Find my config below:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         12
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              FS
rotation_priority5              ES_SS
rotation_priority6              SS
rotation_priority7              ES
rotation_priority8              MT
rotation_priority9              LS
rotation_priority10             LL
rotation_priority11             MW3_LB
rotation_priority12             MW4_LB

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          687/687
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.61
mh_dps                          196.5
oh_dps                          196.5
mh_crit                         37.78
oh_crit                         37.78
mh_hit                          11.56
oh_hit                          11.56
mh_expertise_rating             140
oh_expertise_rating             140
ap                              4601
melee_haste                     17.92
armor_penetration               3.57
str                             147
agi                             1014
int                             650
spi                             171
spellpower                      1380
spell_crit                      28.79
spell_hit                       14.45
spell_haste                     13.78
max_mana                        13866
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        45522
trinket2                        45931

totem                           47667

set_bonus1                      t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    flame_shock

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   2/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Brynmor · 09/27/09, 3:16 AM

I don't think its worth conjecturing about FS and the new FS glyph until the sim gets updated. At the very least we can say your test showed a 10 DPS loss in a situation where the DoT wouldn't be able to crit. If we translate your test to how FS now behaves live (with the effects of the old FS glyph being folded into FS with no glyph needed) it would be as if you used FS in your rotation and only had 2 major glyphs in use. I would very much think that allowing the FS DoT to crit with the new glyph is going to be worth more than 10 DPS. Unless anyone can prove otherwise it would seem that dropping the WF glyph for the new FS glyph and working FS into our rotation will net a DPS increase. That said I'm not about to start doing so until EnhSim gets updated and I can prove it to myself.

Ryethe · 09/27/09, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Brynmor

I don't think its worth conjecturing about FS and the new FS glyph until the sim gets updated. At the very least we can say your test showed a 10 DPS loss in a situation where the DoT wouldn't be able to crit. If we translate your test to how FS now behaves live (with the effects of the old FS glyph being folded into FS with no glyph needed) it would be as if you used FS in your rotation and only had 2 major glyphs in use. I would very much think that allowing the FS DoT to crit with the new glyph is going to be worth more than 10 DPS. Unless anyone can prove otherwise it would seem that dropping the WF glyph for the new FS glyph and working FS into our rotation will net a DPS increase. That said I'm not about to start doing so until EnhSim gets updated and I can prove it to myself.

Except all previous conjecture and math showed that the extended FS dot was a DPS upgrade BEFORE adding in the new FS glyph (which is why the glyph would have been such a no brainer).

One glyph slot was open was exactly the point. If I fill that glyph slot with WF and removed FS from the rotation, it was a 77 DPS upgrade. That means the new glyph will have to pack one hell of a punch for it to be worth adding a new spell to our rotation.

Nayruu · 09/27/09, 7:29 PM

Hmmm ..
I use Totem of Quaking Earth and Victor's Call Heroic (Trinket)
When I run the Sim I get the Message
"Trinket 47946 not found.
Totem 47667 not found."

I'm sure I have the latest version of Enhsim. (1.7.0) What can I do about this? O.o
Do we have to wait for a newer version or does my addon give me the wrong numbers of the totem/trinket?

Deathicle · 09/27/09, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nayruu

Hmmm ..
I use Totem of Quaking Earth and Victor's Call Heroic (Trinket)
When I run the Sim I get the Message
"Trinket 47946 not found.
Totem 47667 not found."

I'm sure I have the latest version of Enhsim. (1.7.0) What can I do about this? O.o
Do we have to wait for a newer version or does my addon give me the wrong numbers of the totem/trinket?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are, in fact, NOT using the latest version of Enhsim, and that you would be wise to actually use the search function on this thread to search for the correct version of Enhsim, 1.8.3.3

Sithray · 09/27/09, 9:18 PM

Originally Posted by Nayruu

Hmmm ..
I use Totem of Quaking Earth and Victor's Call Heroic (Trinket)
When I run the Sim I get the Message
"Trinket 47946 not found.
Totem 47667 not found."

I'm sure I have the latest version of Enhsim. (1.7.0) What can I do about this? O.o
Do we have to wait for a newer version or does my addon give me the wrong numbers of the totem/trinket?

Yeah, that original post isn't accurate. I think Levva has it in his sig. 1.8.3.3 is the current.

Lyska · 09/27/09, 10:05 PM

Could we please get an updated mac version?

Akiros · 09/28/09, 3:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ryethe

I wanted to do some quick comparisons with shock damage to see just how much DPS flameshock would add. In order to simulate this I used the Flame Shock glyph in the sim. For all intents and purposes this glyph should mimic what FS acts like on live without the glyph. I then inserted FS in the rotation above ES_SS. I then simmed with FS in the rotation and with FS out of the rotation.

The result was a 10DPS loss when FS was in the rotation. Assuming that the new FS glyph adds 77DPS as Bink said then we're still looking at a loss compared to using the WF glyph.

I find it strange that the EnhShock spreadsheet Bink posted was reporting DPS gain without the new glyph when the sim clearly shows otherwise. Something is buggered up in one of the two.

What is your reference point?
You need to sim without WF glyph first, and then add the FS glyph.

Nayruu · 09/28/09, 6:46 AM

Originally Posted by Deathicle

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are, in fact, NOT using the latest version of Enhsim, and that you would be wise to actually use the search function on this thread to search for the correct version of Enhsim, 1.8.3.3

Sorry for bothering you. I was just checking the first post in this thread and EnhSim: Downloads where you can't find a newer version

but thanks a lot, I am now up to date

Ryethe · 09/28/09, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by Akiros

What is your reference point?
You need to sim without WF glyph first, and then add the FS glyph.

Exactly what I did. Whether or not the third slot is filled with the FS glyph for both tests is irrelevant since if FS is not in the rotation the third slot is effectively empty.

Alandovos · 09/28/09, 10:49 AM

New version available from EnhSim - Home

GUI updates only!

If you have issues please either send me a PM or the more preferred option is to open an issue on the enhsim site.

Fixed:
4783 - Remove OH melee hit and crit % boxes
4785 - Add check for correct enhsim.exe path before trying to launch sim
4974 - Prevent selecting both 2 and 4 piece bonuses from the same set
4973 - Pick up food and flask buffs from rawr import
4991 - Fixed imports from Shock and Awe

Additional fixes:
Reset of gear choice & glyph boxes when loading
Reset of buff and food boxes when loading only from rawr
Moved glyphs to the Glyphs & Talents tab
Renamed some tabs
Fixed minor formatting issues
Added "Report an Error" button in place of donate button - users will be directed to the issue tracker page on codeplex

Akiros · 09/28/09, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ryethe

Exactly what I did. Whether or not the third slot is filled with the FS glyph for both tests is irrelevant since if FS is not in the rotation the third slot is effectively empty.

Well, I see a difference of about 20 dps in favor of FS for me. So your results might not be valid for others.

Enkeedu · 09/28/09, 2:06 PM

Originally Posted by Levva

Errr no not really. EP values simply don't work like that. The EP value of any stat can't simply be multiplied by any change to it as there are plenty of interactions between a single stat and all the other stats in lots of different formulae.

Now as it happens ArP is a complex beast, as GC's formulae on the Blizzard forums showed and isn't directly linear however it is one of the more straightforward stats being a straight modifier to damage reduction. You also have to recall that it only affects around half our dps and so a 12% nerf to Arp will not be a 12% dps loss in fact it only modifies the damage reduction modifier on half our damage so its not even 6%. Assuming the damage reduction modifier you had from ArP is no more than 20-30% then 12% ArP loss is closer to .12*.25*.5 = 1.5%. Of course many will have a lot lower ArP than that and so lower dps loss.

I think I see what you're saying. I never assumed that the 12% decrease in arp would equate to an overall 12% dps loss, but I did assume that decreasing my arp value by 12% would approximate the 12% nerf, which is not necessarily the case as you have explained.

As to the EP scaling, I did suspect that making a simple adjustment there to compensate for the nerf would be a bit ambitious, but given that anytime you use the EP scale alone to justify a gearing choice you are making an approximation, I figured I would still be in the ballpark. Perhaps not! However, if I could come up with the correct coefficient to scale my input arp. by, I could atleast be somewhat confident that my other melee related EP values would not be as incorrect as they are now. Right now I'm reasonably confident that those other melee related stats are valued slightly higher than they ought to be. But really, the only useful stat we have that isn't related to melee is raw spellpower, of which we're almost never trying to compare gear anyway.

I'll just continue to wait patiently for the new sim.

Rani · 09/28/09, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Alandovos

New version available from EnhSim - Home

GUI updates only!

If you have issues please either send me a PM or the more preferred option is to open an issue on the enhsim site.

Fixed:
4783 - Remove OH melee hit and crit % boxes
4785 - Add check for correct enhsim.exe path before trying to launch sim
4974 - Prevent selecting both 2 and 4 piece bonuses from the same set
4973 - Pick up food and flask buffs from rawr import
4991 - Fixed imports from Shock and Awe

Additional fixes:
Reset of gear choice & glyph boxes when loading
Reset of buff and food boxes when loading only from rawr
Moved glyphs to the Glyphs & Talents tab
Renamed some tabs
Fixed minor formatting issues
Added "Report an Error" button in place of donate button - users will be directed to the issue tracker page on codeplex

Might be a dumb question, but does this version includes the changes to FS and ArP?
...also, what about a new LL_QE priority?

Ryethe · 09/28/09, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rani

Might be a dumb question, but does this version includes the changes to FS and ArP?
...also, what about a new LL_QE priority?

That all relates to core enhsim functionality. This was only a GUI update.

Reztester · 09/28/09, 5:30 PM

Hey guys I have been using for Enhsim for a long time but the last two updates have been giving me some real funny numbers:

EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      2655.04
ap                        1.00      0.20      2695.40        40.36
crit rating               1.19      0.24      2662.23        7.19
hit rating                1.48      0.30      2663.97        8.93
expertise rating          0.27      0.06      2656.84        1.81
haste rating              1.20      0.24      2662.31        7.27
armor penetration rating  -0.17     -0.03     2654.00        -1.04
spellpower                2.45      0.49      2729.28        74.24
mh dps                    -0.50     -0.10     2654.28        -0.76
oh dps                    1.87      0.38      2657.87        2.83
strength                  1.10
agility                   1.24
intelligence*             1.53

No matter what i put in I always have been gettign a negative value for main hand, my combate log shows negative dps for white, and stormstrike damage! what am i doing wrong? here is what i am inputting:

race                            troll
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          178.9
oh_dps                          178.9
mh_crit                         35.47
oh_crit                         35.47
mh_hit                          11.13
oh_hit                          11.13
mh_expertise_rating             136
oh_expertise_rating             136
ap                              4034
melee_haste                     22.96
armor_penetration               0
str                             141
agi                             956
int                             455
spi                             164
spellpower                      1210
spell_crit                      26.01
spell_hit                       14.91
spell_haste                     22.96
max_mana                        11736
mp5                             58

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        pyrite_infuser

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus1                      worldbreaker_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         -

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  0/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

edited to include code boxes and clear up where my EP info was posted!

Rouncer · 09/28/09, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by Reztester

Hey guys I have been using for Enhsim for a long time but the last two updates have been giving me some real funny numbers:

Use [ code ][ /code ] without the spaces when you are going to post config file. Also if you are asking a question about EP values don't you think it would be germane to include the EP portion of your config?

Levva · 09/28/09, 5:52 PM

Originally Posted by Nayruu

Sorry for bothering you. I was just checking the first post in this thread and EnhSim: Downloads where you can't find a newer version

but thanks a lot, I am now up to date

Would it be at all possible for one of the forum mods to edit that first post in this thread and change the URL link to EnhSim - Home ? What's the protocol to bring this to their attention? Report the post?

Reztester · 09/28/09, 5:53 PM

sorry about that fixed my posting with the code tags.

Rouncer · 09/28/09, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by Reztester

sorry about that fixed my posting with the code tags.

If that is your entire config then the reason you are getting such warped numbers for EP is that you haven't give the simulator any values you also haven't given the sim a priority list to work with either. Try using the GUI import function instead of just copying the rawr output and running that as your config.

Brynmor · 09/28/09, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ryethe

Except all previous conjecture and math showed that the extended FS dot was a DPS upgrade BEFORE adding in the new FS glyph (which is why the glyph would have been such a no brainer).

One glyph slot was open was exactly the point. If I fill that glyph slot with WF and removed FS from the rotation, it was a 77 DPS upgrade. That means the new glyph will have to pack one hell of a punch for it to be worth adding a new spell to our rotation.

It does, but I don't think you understand exactly how you should've ran your test. I tried to explain it a little on my first response but I guess I wasn't as clear as I could've been. This time I'll just resort to math.

I ran EnhSim with my character's stats, full buffs, rotation as set in the BiS thread. No FS, FS glyph, no removal of WF glyph. I get 8143 DPS.

Next test I remove the WF glyph and change nothing else. I get 8058 DPS. From this we can say that the WF glyph is worth 85 DPS in my circumstance.

Then I ran it adding FS to my rotation (below SS on priority) and replacing the WF glyph with the FS glyph to simulate how FS behaves live. I got 8060 DPS. Now, to get to where we'd be live I now have to add back in the DPS from WF glyph, which would bring me to 8145 DPS. So as far as my own stats go incorporating FS into my rotation does yield a small DPS increase.