EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 109

syzygylock · 03/17/09, 12:00 AM

Ah! I thought that we should not use any buff when running the simulator. And yes, the talent is wrong. But just to verify, when running the simulator we should put on every buffs available right?

Thanks,

Densor · 03/17/09, 12:04 AM

You put in all the buffs where it specifies in the config file here (the defaults are the numbers after the '/'):

armor_debuff_major              0/3925
armor_debuff_minor              0/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          0/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 0/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   0/52
agi_and_strength_buff           0/178
intellect_buff                  0/60

Then, when you have no buffs or imbues on your character, you put your stats in here:

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        1.80
mh_dps                          143.5
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         22.57
oh_crit                         22.57
mh_hit                          10.67
oh_hit                          10.67
mh_expertise_rating             117.00
oh_expertise_rating             117.00
ap                              2852
haste                           1.65
armor_penetration               3.90
str                             125
agi                             720
int                             413
spi                             145
spellpower                      855
spell_crit                      15.69
spell_hit                       13.34
max_mana                        10311
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        meteorite_whetstone
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus                       -

metagem                         -

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    flametongue_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  2/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

The sim factors in how all the specified buffs affect your base stats and then figures out your DPS from there.

Rouncer · 03/17/09, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by syzygylock

Ah! I thought that we should not use any buff when running the simulator. And yes, the talent is wrong. But just to verify, when running the simulator we should put on every buffs available right?

Thanks,

You should put into the sim every buff that you are going to have available. The idea is to "simulate" real conditions so that you can maximize your performance.

Solema · 03/17/09, 5:35 AM

You are also not using MT (magma totem) in your rotation and use ES or ES_SS not both.

I know i'm playing with fire posting this again but i fear my post was overshadowed by the hit/exp values conversation and wasnt read.If anyone can figure out what i'm doing wrong and getting only 1.5k dps i will be gratefull.The only thing i have noticed is that it is adding LvB and FS in the rotation for some reason i can't explain.This is my config:

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         7
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SR
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              ES
rotation_priority5              MT
rotation_priority6              LS
rotation_priority7              LL

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        25.0
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            fish_feast
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.6
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         31.01
oh_crit                         31.01
mh_hit                          10.49
oh_hit                          10.49
mh_expertise_rating             132
oh_expertise_rating             132
ap                              3815
haste                           3.57
armor_penetration               2.53
str                             129
agi                             831
int                             508
spi                             153
spellpower                      1144
spell_crit                      23.36
spell_hit                       13.11
max_mana                        11731
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         chaotic_skyflare_diamond

glyph_major1                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               352.81    22.97%    76.60
windfury            181.35    11.81%    4.73
flametongue         223.91    14.58%    56.34
stormstrike         73.84     4.81%     5.63      31.01     32.22%
lava lash           51.53     3.35%     8.43      15.99     16.61%
earth shock         83.76     5.45%     2.74      10.39     10.79%
flame shock         139.75    9.1%      5.92      2.34      2.43%
lava burst          352.28    22.93%    5.58      36.53     37.95%
lightning shield    76.81     5%        0.70      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 1536.05
MPS                 96.26
MP2min              11550.93
MRPS                78.13
Out of mana time    2.78%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 5.42s
simulation speed: 664084x

Ruga · 03/17/09, 6:38 AM

did you untick FS and LvB and, just to be sure, move it down in the list?

Solema · 03/17/09, 8:26 AM

Yes.It would be in the config rotation if i didnt untick it wouldnt it?

Butakuti · 03/17/09, 11:03 AM

Solema, just to be sure. Are you renaming the config file when you enter your stats/rotation or are you using the gui?

If you are renaming the config, make sure the sim is running with the correct config file. Your output looks exactly like what the default config gives, so your probably not using the correct file name.

If you edit 'start_simulation' and is shows this:

enhsim.exe config.txt output=output.txt

then make sure to change 'config.txt' to the name of your altered config file.

For example, when I run the sim I create my config file called 'config-enh.txt'. Since this is the name of the config I want the sim to use, I have the following in the 'start_simulation' batch file:

enhsim.exe config-enh.txt output=output.txt

Solema · 03/17/09, 12:48 PM

I'm using the GUI.I dont touch the config at all.Do i still have to rename something?

EDIT:Woot got it!Thanks m8 you are great

Sylari · 03/17/09, 8:20 PM

Sorry if this is a bit offtopic, but I'm getting some weird results from the sim, specifically The Stray I just picked up, unenchanted, is simming higher than my split greathammer with mongoose? I understand the Stray WILL be good in 3.1 ( possibly the best pre-ulduar? ).. but I can't understand why it's simming so well for me right now

Rouncer · 03/17/09, 8:38 PM

Stray gives additional Flurry uptime if your weapons are synced in speed. This does occur in the game but not 100% of the time (there was discussion on it earlier in the thread) but seems to have a much higher percentage in the sim.

Easy workaround is to set one of your weapons to 2.59 or 2.61 and rerun the Sim, but just keep in mind that it is a real phenomenon provided you can keep the weapons synced.

Levva · 03/19/09, 7:07 PM

Tukez now I have the Rawr.Enhance module exporting the config data in a format suitable for EnhSim I was wondering if you would consider implementing a feature for EnhSimGui. The feature is quite simple - Read config from Clipboard.

This would basically read the clipboard contents and apply it to the currently loaded gui config. This would mean that both Rawr & ShockAndAwe exports would be a whole lot simpler - copy to clipboard in ShockAndAwe or Rawr and click a button in EnhSimGui to import config.

I'd happily modify the exports so that for instance there was a tagline identifier on the first line so you could test the validity of what was in the clipboard from the outset.

The idea is that you could have Rawr & EnhSim side by side - play around with gear in Rawr - click export in Rawr, click import in EnhSimGui - click Run Simulation. Very simple very quick and would allow much faster turn around trying out things in the sim.

greyhound · 03/20/09, 5:18 AM

I just started using EnhSim and I seem to be getting some strange DPS calculations If I equip Fury of the Five Flights the sim comes up with 6277 DPS but if I dont equip any trinket for that slot and add 320 AP to my base stats I only get 6210 DPS from the sim. This seems very wrong to me I would think that Fury of the Five Flights would have a slightly lower DPS due to its warm-up period. Does anyone know if this trinket is bugged or if I am doing something wrong? This is for a 20000 hr sim so I dont think that could be the issue.

Edit: Thanks for the help

zomghax · 03/20/09, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by greyhound

I just started using EnhSim and I seem to be getting some strange DPS calculations If I equip Fury of the Five Flights the sim comes up with 6277 DPS but if I dont equip any trinket for that slot and add 320 AP to my base stats I only get 6210 DPS from the sim. This seems very wrong to me I would think that Fury of the Five Flights would have a slightly lower DPS due to its warm-up period. Does anyone know if this trinket is bugged or if I am doing something wrong? This is for a 20000 hr sim so I dont think that could be the issue.

Bet you forgot to increase your spellpower by (320*.3) 96 to account for MQ.

Vesham · 03/20/09, 11:56 AM

Your DPS should be almost the exact same for both once your add in the spellpower if you're running a 20000 hr sim.

Tides · 03/21/09, 9:53 AM

Would it be possible to add [Tears of Bitter Anguish] to the trinket list for future builds of EnhSim?