EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 185

stassart · 11/30/09, 8:06 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

I may be wrong but doesn't most trinkets that proc off spell damage also proc off magma totem damage & FS Dot ticks?

Whilst I'm musing on these things, where does Flametongue weapon imbue damage come into this? Should it be treated as spell damage? Does it proc things that come under the spell damage list? If so then the Sim is ignoring this source of spell damage at present.

I believe spell damage trinket procs fall into these categories:

1) Procs on harmful spell cast
Example: [Talisman of Volatile Power]

2) Procs on any spell cast
Example: [Eye of the Broodmother]

3) Procs on non-periodic crits
Example: [Reign of the Dead]

4) Procs on periodic damage
Example: [Extract of Necromantic Power]

I do not know if Muradin's Spyglass (ICC-10) is initial cast only or periodic damage also, if it is both then it adds another category.

I would guess that Extract of Necromantic Power procs off magma totem damage, but I have not tested it. I would guess that a flametongue weapon damage (Flametongue Attack) crit would proc Reign of the Dead, but I have not tested it.

Levva · 11/30/09, 8:45 AM

Originally Posted by stassart

I believe spell damage trinket procs fall into these categories:

1) Procs on harmful spell cast
Example: [Talisman of Volatile Power]

2) Procs on any spell cast
Example: [Eye of the Broodmother]

3) Procs on non-periodic crits
Example: [Reign of the Dead]

4) Procs on periodic damage
Example: [Extract of Necromantic Power]

I do not know if Muradin's Spyglass (ICC-10) is initial cast only or periodic damage also, if it is both then it adds another category.

I would guess that Extract of Necromantic Power procs off magma totem damage, but I have not tested it. I would guess that a flametongue weapon damage (Flametongue Attack) crit would proc Reign of the Dead, but I have not tested it.

V1.9.1.3 - not released yet. Uses the following for those...

1) Procs on harmful spell cast - pSpellCast - was pSpellDamage in v1.9.1.2
Example: [Talisman of Volatile Power]

2) Procs on any spell cast - not currently implemented!!!
Example: [Eye of the Broodmother]

3) Procs on non-periodic crits - pSpellCrit and pFlametongueCrit
Example: [Reign of the Dead]

4) Procs on periodic damage - not currently implemented!!!
Example: [Extract of Necromantic Power]

None of these trinkets are getting any proc effect from either a Magma totem drop (spell cast) or Magma totem pulse (spell damage? spell crit?).

You also have trinkets in patch 3.3 like [Dislodged Foreign Object] which has proc of "Your harmful spells have a chance to increase your spell power by 105 and an additional 105 every 2 sec for 20 sec."

Which sounds like spell cast too but who knows (not exactly a Enhance trinket anyway so not a big deal).

So questions are

1) Does periodic spell damage trigger trinkets with "on spell damage"?

2) What does Magma totem damage count as? Periodic? Non periodic? Nothing - doesn't trigger anything?

3) What does Flametongue damage count as? Melee damage? Spell damage? Neither its a special case and works on trinket by trinket basis?

EnhSim currently behaves as

1) no periodic damage triggers exist

2) magma totem doesn't trigger anything

3) treated as a special case on trinket by trinket basis. eg: for [Talisman of Volatile Power] flametongue damage isn't in the sim as triggering this effect.

Zimeron · 11/30/09, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

1) Does periodic spell damage trigger trinkets with "on spell damage"?

2) What does Magma totem damage count as? Periodic? Non periodic? Nothing - doesn't trigger anything?

1) Example of an item that is worded this way?

2) Magma, Searing, and the Fire elemental's damage is considered nothing, they don't proc anything for you. You can get a proc off the spell cast of the totem though.

Levva · 11/30/09, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by zimeron

1) Example of an item that is worded this way?

2) Magma, Searing, and the Fire elemental's damage is considered nothing, they don't proc anything for you. You can get a proc off the spell cast of the totem though.

Muradin's Spyglass which is

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=50345

Equip "Each time you deal spell damage to an opponent, you gain 20 spell power for the next 10 sec, stacking up to 10 times."

NB. You'll need to follow the link - EJ forum mangles the link trying to make it a www . wowhead . com item instead of a ptr . wowhead . com item.