Writing the ShockAndAwe code for exporting the detail of any set bonuses it struck me that its perfectly possible for someone to have a two piece bonus from one set and a two piece bonus from another. eg: I could well believe people with T6 gear replacing with naxx gear would end up with 2 different "2 set" bonuses ie:one from T6, one from Naxx kit. I couldn't see any way the sim would cope with this.

I was thinking for ShockAndAwe purposes I go with the latter of the two. Although I could see long term it being possible to have 2 from one set and 2 from another (eg: PvP)

If you plan on catering for this might I suggest :

set_bonus gear_name_X; gear_name_Y (where X & Y are 2 or 4 or whatever the bonus number is).

This format maintains consistency with later gear as at present you have some with gear_name format and some with gear_name_X format.

I put up a new download of 1.4.3 versioned 1.4.3.1. I didn't change EnhSim, just the GUI. I had messed up the GUI and it was outputting wrong config file format.

Levva, ShockAndAwe does not export Unrelenting Storm talent. It results in GUI crashing.

Has anyone tried putting into EP the Lightning Capacitor on enhance or other on spell crit trinkets?
(Like the upcoming Thunder Capacitor and Serrah's Star)

Should we follow we follow the basic same fixed ep + proc ep divided by cooldown?
How do we take into account the spell crit rate vs cooldowns?

Edit: Someone posted a similar question about a week ago, but i think it got lost along the way.

I'm actually more interested in these trinkets since i heard ft crits can proc them.

Ok fixed in next release. I noted in the Water Shield/Lightning Shield warning that it works if you turn on both - you get the warning. If you then turn one off the warning doesn't go away.

So, I've checked the Enhsim thread, the Shock and Awe Thread and the WOTLK Enh Shaman thread and I have not been able to figure this out. I will phrase it is a request to update the readme rather than an unuseful individual question.

It's not very intuitive how to use the "Export" function of SAA along with Enhsim. (I've still yet to figure it out). If you could 1) Outline it here, and 2) Maybe throw it in the readme or alternately incorporate an explanation besides "Press Ctrl C" into SAA, that would be dope.

I've updated the news section in ShockAndAwe to explain things - new version up soon after I've tested things in game.

Using cut n paste is very very simple and works exactly the same as every other Windows and Mac application. You open the default config file called config.txt in the EnhSim download. At the bottom of it is a section that tells you to replace it with the ShockAndAwe data. Open the config.txt file on Windows in Wordpad or similar (notepad doesn't work as it doesn't understand the next line character from WOW). Delete the default data then goto WoW.

So now you are in game you type /saa export and up pops the export box. Press CTRL-C to copy the data to the clipboard. Minimise WoW and go back to your text editor, and paste the text you copied from WoW into your text editor, by default this is CTRL-V. You can of course use menu paste options if you prefer.

Once you save the config.txt file - eg: I save mine as Levva.txt you can then run the Sim, if you aren't sure about the options I'd recommend running EnhSimGUI.exe and selecting File Load and load your saved file. Then you can visually see its imported your data and it allows you to visually tick what buffs etc you have. Clicking on the Simulate button will then run the sim.

There is already an addon that does this called Equivalence Points Which allows you to enter the values from the sim.

It would be nice if the Sim had a feature (a tick box option) to display the import string for this addon (it would be the same format as Yo!s simulator used. ie: you tick box (or set option in config file) run the sim and after all the output it shows a import string for Equiv Points and/or a Lootrank URL.

Thanks for the great work on SAA Levva. I have a few questions:

1) Using the export copy/paste method outlined above, my paste looks like it contains rich-text linebreaks. They show up as squares when I paste into my config.txt. Shouldn't this be exported as plain text?

2) Can you add [Skyguard Silver Cross] to the trinket export?

Thanks so much, SAA is the bee's knees.

Trinket does nothing special. You never get proc against single target. It just have passive stats. You see passive stat at paperdoll. Problem solved.

How is it any different than [Hourglass of the Unraveller], which is included in EnhSim?

It's diffrent because it doesnt have a proc that provides randomly ala chance on X - but rather each time you kill something - Which has 0 purpose when you want to hit something (even trash) in a 25 man eviroment.

Yes, but Kyuki clarified it for me. Thanks Kyuki.

Ive made a parser/converter from EnhSim to pawn. You can find it here:
Pawn parser from EnhSim output

All the code is included in the html so you can see whats going on. Tukez, you are more than welcome to take the code.

Please reply here if there are any errors. Ill update the rest on Sunday, Im planning to a loot rank link as well.

Tukez, a suggestion: could you add EP calc for meta gems? I dont think it should be too hard to implement. I might look at it next weekend, not sure Ill have the time though.

Enjoy.

Yeah, I might add the metagem EP to next version. Thanks for the gem calculator

Anyone else having a problem with SAA 3.6.0? I had to disable it because there was text overwriting the whole screen (I think it was an intro screen). I hate to lose the addon, but it makes WoW unplayable at the moment.

There sould be a "OK" button in the bottom that close the window.

The news frame is only shown when the addon is updated, so logging out and logging back in (don't disable the addon) should hide the window. It would be cool if the news frame could be moved, or dismissed with Escape or Enter. Very good work, on S&A, Levva.

Tukez, I've been really busy all week but I will get to the trinket thing (before wrath, I hope).

Thanks for the Pawn parser, and mad props for making it a JS app

I would like to put my vote in for having both PAWN and Equivalence Points ready data in the EP value calculations. Please.

I use Both, but prefer PAWN for most things, it's just so much easier to use... Equivalence Points however is good for helping me choose weapons, I haven't figured out how to get it to show me different data for helping choose Off Spec gear. (heal, ele) also seems to give different values even when I'm 98% sure the numbers between the 2 tools are the same.

Love SSA and how it exports


BTW, i've dug around and can't find a how to build the Sim for the code challenged description, can anyone write up a step by step how in Xcode, so we can keep up to date? I love that there is a Mac version up there now, I'm just worried it may fall out of sync with new features in SSA exports.

Thanks!

I've updated the parser a bit, and I'm satisfied enough. So unless there are any mistakes, it wont be changed.

I might add Equivalence Points, if you can link me the documentation as I dont use that add on.

No need EquivalencePoints - Addons - Curse can import LootRank URLs too. Its a great addon as it gives each item its total EP value shown on the tooltip in game - so when you are comparing stuff side by side (with EquipCompare EquipCompare : WoWInterface Downloads : Bags, Bank, Inventory Mods ) You can glance at the total EP value to see if its an upgrade.

Oh and to those mentioning the News frame issue in SAA v3.60 please upgrade to v3.62. Also if we could keep this thread to the SIM and how it works and stuff like that - SAA has its own forum thread at ShockAndAwe (formerly DisqoDice) please post stuff about SAA there and NOT on this thread.

Has anyone else been getting very high EP values for INT when running the sim? When I ran the sim yesterday, int came in @ 3.8. This seems a bit out of line.

My int is at 251 and my mana pool @ 6443.

If you have any out of mana time, int will have high value. If you don't have OOM time, it's a bug.

There is a bug in the sim. If you disable spirit EP calculation, int EP value will be messed up, because it includes dividing by ep_spirit(0 if disabled). This is fixed in the next version. This bug probably causes those very high int EP values some people have reported.