EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 36

hozzer · 12/04/08, 4:46 PM

It looks like the effects of haste (other than bloodlust) on the global cooldown are not currently being modeled. Can you confirm/deny this tukez? Thanks!

With 20% passive haste in the config for testing:

0h 0m 44.86s	Lightning Bolt hit 1663.67
0h 0m 45.88s	OH hit 303.679
0h 0m 45.88s	Shamanistic Rage procs 791.7
0h 0m 45.88s	Maelstrom Weapon stacks (1)
0h 0m 46.34s	MH crit 1263.3
0h 0m 46.37s	Global cooldown off
0h 0m 46.37s	Earth shock hit 1460.62
0h 0m 47.48s	OH miss
0h 0m 47.88s	Global cooldown off

Purges · 12/04/08, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Shaman: Enhancement

Anyone found a situation yet where Stonebreakers totem is NOT better than level 80 relics?

I'm not sure if this was simply a rhetoric question or not. But Stonebreakers is coming out anywhere from 5DPS less to equal to the Totem of Dueling for me. And curiously, Totem of Hex is actually coming out about 10DPS higher than both of those in my simulations. I am currently running with Dueling though. Those are the only 3 I've tested so far as they are the only relics I posses. If this is an oddity, I'd be more than happy to post my code file.

AeroByte · 12/04/08, 5:02 PM

According to EhnSim i get less DPS using [Bandit's Insignia] than not using it (the procc). There's like 2-3 DKP difference, can anyone explain this?

Can't see how a damageprocc should lower my DPS.

Triper · 12/04/08, 5:26 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Shaman: Enhancement

Anyone found a situation yet where Stonebreakers totem is NOT better than level 80 relics?

According to my sims, Totem of Dueling is 20 DPS better than any other option available to me.

But in a real raid setting... I personally cannot tell the difference between any of them. :-/

tukez · 12/04/08, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by hozzer

It looks like the effects of haste (other than bloodlust) on the global cooldown are not currently being modeled. Can you confirm/deny this tukez? Thanks!

Confirmed bug. Seems I broke it when I separated melee and spell haste rating. Good catch!

Originally Posted by AeroByte

According to EhnSim i get less DPS using [Bandit's Insignia] than not using it (the procc). There's like 2-3 DKP difference, can anyone explain this?

Can't see how a damageprocc should lower my DPS.

Also a bug. Are you using Deathfrost also? That would explain the lower DPS as Bandit's Insignia was resetting misc damage every proc. I'll upload a new version later today.

Malan · 12/04/08, 11:29 PM

Interesting, the sim was showing Dueling as being a significant drop in DPS. Must just be a gearing thing.

Utters · 12/05/08, 3:34 AM

Elemental Plane

MH:
miss                2457123        10.42%
dodge               235829         1.00%
glancing            5886261        24.96%
hit                 4991331        21.17%
crit                10011637       42.45%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.24%
procs/swings        13.73%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               77230          1.02%
hit                 4326596        57.10%
crit                3173782        41.88%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               40022          1.00%
hit                 2289627        57.18%
crit                1674753        41.82%

OH:
miss                2556623        10.42%
dodge               245022         1.00%
glancing            6124556        24.95%
hit                 5194074        21.16%
crit                10422884       42.47%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 18757206       61.55%
crit                11718135       38.45%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               39207          0.99%
hit                 2269214        57.24%
crit                1655959        41.77%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3172599        61.53%
crit                1983806        38.47%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               48338          1.00%
hit                 2761789        56.86%
crit                2046865        42.14%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 2993643        61.50%
crit                1873916        38.50%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4151849        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 44.52

flurry uptime                  84.80%
unleashed rage uptime          99.97%
elemental devastation uptime   72.63%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              34.83%
oh enchant uptime              31.55%
trinket1 uptime                20.52%
trinket2 uptime                17.44%
totem uptime                   10.96%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.07      0.06%
mp5                 34.53     30.96%
replenishment       24.05     21.56%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 19.01     17.04%
shamanistic rage    33.88     30.37%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc potion         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               1299.03   32.58%    80.21
windfury            564.77    14.17%    6.31
flametongue         394.48    9.89%     50.79
stormstrike         247.21    6.2%      6.67      36.77     28.64%
lava lash           134.76    3.38%     8.09      16.70     13.01%
searing totem       217.30    5.45%     1.00      4.83      3.76%
earth shock         441.29    11.07%    8.59      26.41     20.57%
lightning bolt      543.19    13.62%    8.11      43.69     34.02%
lightning shield    144.82    3.63%     0.77      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 3986.86
MPS                 128.40
MP2min              15407.54
MRPS                132.05
Out of mana time    0.01%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 59.08s
simulation speed: 609312x

Splintering

MH:
miss                2444232        10.43%
dodge               234605         1.00%
glancing            5857184        24.98%
hit                 4962271        21.17%
crit                9946685        42.43%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.31%
procs/swings        13.80%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               76675          1.01%
hit                 4319562        57.04%
crit                3177073        41.95%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               40291          1.01%
hit                 2291826        57.27%
crit                1669864        41.73%

OH:
miss                2542218        10.42%
dodge               243716         1.00%
glancing            6094883        24.98%
hit                 5167150        21.18%
crit                10349852       42.42%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 18679942       61.57%
crit                11661755       38.43%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               39166          0.99%
hit                 2267423        57.23%
crit                1655101        41.78%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3174489        61.55%
crit                1983110        38.45%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               48611          1.00%
hit                 2760744        56.85%
crit                2046544        42.15%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 2982272        61.52%
crit                1865038        38.48%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4146233        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 44.32

flurry uptime                  84.83%
unleashed rage uptime          99.97%
elemental devastation uptime   72.54%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              34.88%
oh enchant uptime              31.46%
trinket1 uptime                20.51%
trinket2 uptime                17.42%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.07      0.06%
mp5                 34.53     31.02%
replenishment       24.05     21.61%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 18.99     17.06%
shamanistic rage    33.66     30.24%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc potion         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               1290.91   32.37%    79.74
windfury            579.40    14.53%    6.31
flametongue         392.70    9.85%     50.57
stormstrike         246.93    6.19%     6.67      36.75     28.6
lava lash           134.72    3.38%     8.09      16.71     13.0
searing totem       217.14    5.44%     1.00      4.83      3.77
earth shock         441.32    11.06%    8.60      26.42     20.6
lightning bolt      540.81    13.56%    8.08      43.52     33.9
lightning shield    144.62    3.63%     0.77      0.00      0.00

DPS                 3988.55
MPS                 128.22
MP2min              15386.46
MRPS                131.80
Out of mana time    0.01%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 48.18s
simulation speed: 747260x

Stonebreakers

MH:
miss                2444277        10.43%
dodge               233973         1.00%
glancing            5855676        24.98%
hit                 4964383        21.17%
crit                9946912        42.43%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.30%
procs/swings        13.78%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               76889          1.02%
hit                 4320726        57.11%
crit                3168093        41.87%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               39948          1.00%
hit                 2291080        57.25%
crit                1670809        41.75%

OH:
miss                2541075        10.42%
dodge               244053         1.00%
glancing            6092274        24.97%
hit                 5164896        21.17%
crit                10355769       42.45%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 18668881       61.53%
crit                11674510       38.47%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               38805          0.98%
hit                 2267700        57.24%
crit                1655384        41.78%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3174691        61.55%
crit                1983397        38.45%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%

dodge               48257          0.99%
hit                 2761508        56.87%
crit                2045860        42.13%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 2983686        61.53%
crit                1865137        38.47%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4138808        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 44.33

flurry uptime                  84.83%
unleashed rage uptime          99.97%
elemental devastation uptime   72.55%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              34.88%
oh enchant uptime              31.49%
trinket1 uptime                20.51%
trinket2 uptime                17.42%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.07      0.06%
mp5                 34.54     31.03%
replenishment       24.06     21.62%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 18.98     17.06%
shamanistic rage    33.65     30.23%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc potion         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               1291.07   32.37%    79.74
windfury            578.50    14.51%    6.30
flametongue         392.83    9.85%     50.57
stormstrike         246.98    6.19%     6.67      36.75     28.65
lava lash           134.71    3.38%     8.09      16.70     13.02
searing totem       217.15    5.45%     1.00      4.83      3.77%
earth shock         441.37    11.07%    8.60      26.43     20.61
lightning bolt      540.95    13.56%    8.08      43.54     33.95
lightning shield    144.36    3.62%     0.77      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 3987.92
MPS                 128.24
MP2min              15389.13
MRPS                131.64
Out of mana time    0.01%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 40.43s
simulation speed: 890537x

Seems they are all equivalent for me and there is no real reason to spend your WotLK badges if you already have stonebreakers.

EDIT:
Config for those who care.

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         100
max_lag                         150
simulate_mana                   1

ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           40
ep_crit_rating                  20
ep_hit_rating                   20
ep_expertise                    3
ep_haste_rating                 20
ep_armor_penetration_rating     20
ep_spellpower                   24
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         7
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              ES
rotation_priority5              LL
rotation_priority6              ST
rotation_priority7              LS

miss                            9.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           7700
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               
shadow_resistance               

armor_debuff_major              2600/2600
armor_debuff_minor              610/610
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          306/306
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 150/150
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   19/19
agi_and_strength_buff           98/98
intellect_buff                  40/40

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            rhinolicious_wyrmsteak
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.50
mh_dps                          143.5
oh_dps                          143.6
mh_crit                         25.07
oh_crit                         25.07
mh_hit                          10.58
oh_hit                          10.58
mh_expertise_rating             146
oh_expertise_rating             146
ap                              2842
haste                           1.16
armor_penetration               1.43
str                             129
agi                             681
int                             285
spi                             153
spellpower                      852
spell_crit                      17.89
spell_hit                       13.23
max_mana                        8391
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        meteorite_whetstone
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus                       -

metagem                         -

glyph_major1                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      5/5
concussion                      2/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

AeroByte · 12/05/08, 7:13 AM

Originally Posted by tukez

Also a bug. Are you using Deathfrost also? That would explain the lower DPS as Bandit's Insignia was resetting misc damage every proc. I'll upload a new version later today.

Running double Mongoose + [Fury of the Five Flights]

Artoxia · 12/05/08, 7:14 AM

Enh Sim tells me that i reached expertise cap and that the ep calculation will be skipped für that stat.

this is my config file:

ep_base_stat			ap //{ ap | sp }
ep_ap 				40
ep_crit_rating 			20
ep_hit_rating 			20
ep_expertise 			1 //not rating
ep_haste_rating 		20
ep_armor_penetration_rating 	20
ep_spellpower 			24
ep_dps				7.5
ep_mana				200
ep_spirit			100
ep_mp5				20

race				draenei //{ orc | tauren | troll | draenei }
mh_speed			2.50
oh_speed			2.80
mh_dps				156.6
oh_dps				112.0
mh_crit				22.85	//%
oh_crit				22.85	
mh_hit				11	//%, you give hit which shows on your character sheet
oh_hit				11
mh_expertise_rating		151	//notice that these are given as rating
oh_expertise_rating		151	
ap				2841	//when changing this, remember to change the spellpower also(if have mental quickness talent)
haste				6.43	//%
armor_penetration		0	//%
str				184
agi				558
int				412
spi				151
spellpower			852	//you give the spellpower which shows on your character sheet
spell_crit			17.91	//%
spell_hit			6.25	//%, you give spell hit which shows on your character sheet
max_mana			10296
mp5				90	//in combat

i already set the ep range for expertise to 1, but it still tells me that i am over the cap. any sugestions?

tukez · 12/05/08, 9:02 AM

Originally Posted by AeroByte

Running double Mongoose + [Fury of the Five Flights]

It shouldn't decrease DPS unless you are using something else which adds to the misc damage. Anyway bug fixed, tell me do you still get the dps decrease.

1.4.8
-Config option ep_precision added. It defines how many decimal digits there are in EP values.
-EP value export added. Export strings can be found and edited in enhsim_ep_exports.txt. You can add, edit, remove or comment out strings.
-Now you can output to file using output parameter when starting the executable. Also combatlog file can be chosen. Example: enhsim.exe config.txt ep output=output.txt, enhsim_combatlog.exe config.txt log=log2.txt.
-Fixed a bug where paper doll haste rating wasn't affecting spell GCD.
-Fixed Bandit's Insignia, Pendulum of Telluric Currents and Vestige of Haldor. They were resetting misc damage every proc.

I couldn't find Enhancer's EP string. Could someone post it here, so I can add it as default to enhsim_ep_export.txt

Jules_AA · 12/05/08, 9:11 AM

Hey guys, Im a long time lurker on the EJ forums and thought I could contribute to the offhand debate started by nevets_69 (or at least confirm which is better for me).

I did some simming but I dont wanna go yell out till someone can confirm I did it right (since im kinda new to EnhSim).

Mind you I calculated with my own gear and the mainhand is therefore [Kel'Thuzad's Reach] not [Calamity's Grasp]. But as offhand I use [Sinister Revenge] which nevets_69 seemed to have missed.

I compared it vs the 'best' slow offhand Angry Dread which is 2.5 speed. Here are the results.

Angry Dread:

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   3
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1

ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   10
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         5
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              LS

miss                            9.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           10850
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    elixir_of_major_agility
guardian_elixir                 elixir_of_draenic_wisdom
potion                          -
food                            -
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          143.5
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         30.08
oh_crit                         30.08
mh_hit                          10.79
oh_hit                          10.79
mh_expertise_rating             206
oh_expertise_rating             206
ap                              3447
haste                           6.41
armor_penetration               0
str                             133
agi                             746
int                             502
spi                             153
spellpower                      1308
spell_crit                      23.48
spell_hit                       13.48
max_mana                        11600
mp5                             92

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        fury_of_the_five_flights
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthstorm_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  0/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

................................................................................


MH:
miss                2906523        11.18%
dodge               64904          0.25%
glancing            6488499        24.96%
hit                 3388226        13.04%
crit                13143681       50.57%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.19%
procs/swings        12.79%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               19680          0.26%
hit                 3798903        49.33%
crit                3882083        50.41%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               10495          0.25%
hit                 2043199        49.62%
crit                2064036        50.13%

OH:
miss                3019772        11.19%
dodge               67581          0.25%
glancing            6735778        24.95%
hit                 3517905        13.03%
crit                13656429       50.58%

OH Flametongue:
miss                171206         0.52%
hit                 18683527       56.46%
crit                14235911       43.02%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               10215          0.25%
hit                 2035873        49.57%
crit                2061147        50.18%

Earth Shock:
miss                28210          0.53%
hit                 3005698        56.46%
crit                2289737        43.01%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               12701          0.25%
hit                 2509633        49.25%
crit                2573879        50.51%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                27731          0.52%
hit                 2981653        56.43%
crit                2274207        43.04%

Lightning Shield:
miss                24436          0.54%
hit                 4492669        99.46%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 48.10

flurry uptime                  90.36%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   79.36%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              35.33%
oh enchant uptime              31.95%
trinket1 uptime                0.00%
trinket2 uptime                18.31%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 35.07     34.27%
replenishment       36.91     36.06%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 30.37     29.67%
shamanistic rage    0.00      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc potion         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               1744.24   33.58%    88.32
windfury            685.02    13.19%    6.42
flametongue         551.00    10.61%    55.15
stormstrike         309.36    5.96%     6.86      37.81     26.29%
lava lash           179.22    3.45%     8.49      16.95     11.78%
earth shock         604.50    11.64%    8.87      36.46     25.35%
lightning bolt      833.99    16.05%    8.81      52.63     36.58%
lightning shield    287.64    5.54%     0.84      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 5194.98
MPS                 143.85
MP2min              17262.49
MRPS                103.36
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 26.35s
simulation speed: 1366327x

Sinister Revenge:

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   3
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1

ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   10
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         5
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              LS

miss                            9.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           10850
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    elixir_of_major_agility
guardian_elixir                 elixir_of_draenic_wisdom
potion                          -
food                            -
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.8
mh_dps                          143.5
oh_dps                          171.1
mh_crit                         29.51
oh_crit                         29.51
mh_hit                          11.16
oh_hit                          11.16
mh_expertise_rating             206
oh_expertise_rating             206
ap                              3464
haste                           7.14
armor_penetration               0
str                             133
agi                             746
int                             502
spi                             153
spellpower                      1313
spell_crit                      22.85
spell_hit                       13.95
max_mana                        11600
mp5                             92

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        fury_of_the_five_flights
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthstorm_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  0/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

................................................................................


MH:
miss                2815957        10.81%
dodge               64997          0.25%
glancing            6492878        24.93%
hit                 3676284        14.12%
crit                12993306       49.89%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.22%
procs/swings        12.86%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               19811          0.26%
hit                 3881699        50.05%
crit                3854888        49.70%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               10318          0.25%
hit                 2069593        50.34%
crit                2031328        49.41%

OH:
miss                4083085        10.82%
dodge               94623          0.25%
glancing            9419881        24.96%
hit                 5314419        14.08%
crit                18822640       49.88%

OH Flametongue:
miss                21435          0.05%
hit                 24528795       57.37%
crit                18206918       42.58%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               10353          0.25%
hit                 2062401        50.29%
crit                2028167        49.46%

Earth Shock:
miss                2779           0.05%
hit                 3062067        57.35%
crit                2274026        42.59%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               13079          0.26%
hit                 2559097        49.96%
crit                2550543        49.79%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                2597           0.05%
hit                 2946456        57.33%
crit                2189978        42.61%

Lightning Shield:
miss                2740           0.05%
hit                 5069531        99.95%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 46.63

flurry uptime                  88.63%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   78.45%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              35.34%
oh enchant uptime              28.75%
trinket1 uptime                0.00%
trinket2 uptime                18.69%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 35.11     34.13%
replenishment       36.95     35.92%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 30.82     29.95%
shamanistic rage    0.00      0.00%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc potion         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               1765.20   33.67%    106.30
windfury            687.85    13.12%    6.46
flametongue         631.75    12.05%    71.26
stormstrike         281.50    5.37%     6.85      37.75     26.39%
lava lash           132.73    2.53%     8.54      17.14     11.98%
earth shock         606.97    11.58%    8.90      36.84     25.75%
lightning bolt      812.27    15.49%    8.57      51.32     35.88%
lightning shield    324.96    6.2%      0.94      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 5243.24
MPS                 143.06
MP2min              17167.12
MRPS                103.83
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 29.09s
simulation speed: 1237751x

So I end up on:
Angry Dread : 5194.98 DPS
Sinister Revenge: 5243.24 DPS

Which is 48,26 dps better. But keep in mind sinister revenge is 14,5 DPS higher.

If there are factor's I missed (should I sim [Webbed Death] for completion?) please let me know. Also let me know if this didn't help at all and i'll go back to lurking ;P

Malan · 12/05/08, 10:49 AM

Not all food buffs seem to be represented, the Expertise food in particular.

tukez · 12/05/08, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Artoxia

Enh Sim tells me that i reached expertise cap and that the ep calculation will be skipped für that stat.

...

i already set the ep range for expertise to 1, but it still tells me that i am over the cap. any sugestions?

You might have lowered the default boss dodge.
You might be using older GUI version and you have enhsim.exe in the path. Then it believes you use level 70.

Rako · 12/05/08, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Purges

I'm not sure if this was simply a rhetoric question or not. But Stonebreakers is coming out anywhere from 5DPS less to equal to the Totem of Dueling for me. And curiously, Totem of Hex is actually coming out about 10DPS higher than both of those in my simulations. I am currently running with Dueling though. Those are the only 3 I've tested so far as they are the only relics I posses. If this is an oddity, I'd be more than happy to post my code file.

For me Totem of Dueling is always lower then Stonebreak, but only by a small margin. Its one of many things that everyone has to sim out for themselves. Another week of Naxx runs will change my equipment alot, so I will just resim it then.

Levva · 12/05/08, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by tukez

I couldn't find Enhancer's EP string. Could someone post it here, so I can add it as default to enhsim_ep_export.txt

I'd done some updating of the EquivalencePoints addon to get it to work with patch 3.0 this is where the Enhancer EP string now imports to, as the original author split the addon in two keeping the EP values separate from Enhancer, as the EP values is equally useful to other classes if they change the values to suit their class.

The addon can import a LootRank string and is perhaps best output as this as that kills two birds with one stone. The main reason for not doing an old "Enhancer" style export string at present is that it was the old Yo! sim string which doesn't support some of the new stats mainly INT.

AP:100;CR:167;STR:200;AGI:148;HR:175;HsR:169;IA:023;ExP:258;

was the format.

Exporting a LootRank or Lootzor string should work just fine. I could do an update of EquivalencePoints if the strings you create have further issues with the importing. As either website may have adjusted the syntax of their URL. If you get the URL right I can amend EquivPoints to get the import right.

I see a beautiful symmetry between exporting from game with ShockAndAwe to EnhSim which feeds output back into game to Equivalence Points, displaying possible kit upgrades on LootRank on the way. I've even looked at packaging Equivalence Points as an optional part of ShockAndAwe as I feel the two combined gives an Enh Shaman a great deal of information to work with to improve their play.

Malan · 12/05/08, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Levva

I see a beautiful symmetry between exporting from game with ShockAndAwe to EnhSim which feeds output back into game to Equivalence Points, displaying possible kit upgrades on LootRank on the way. I've even looked at packaging Equivalence Points as an optional part of ShockAndAwe as I feel the two combined gives an Enh Shaman a great deal of information to work with to improve their play.

I mentioned to Rounced last night that something like that also would really benefit from having a tooltip that said "Hey! This item is better than your current one, but takes you over/under the hit/expertise caps! Recommend you swap gems from your [Chest] and [Legs] to compensate!"

tukez · 12/05/08, 3:10 PM

I made an export string for Lootrank. So can EquivalencePoints also import this? Add this to the enhsim_ep_exports.txt.

http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=$strength&mh=$haste&dps=$mhdps&mp5=$mp5&mcr=$crit&odps=$ohdps&spd=$spellpower&Agi=$agility&mhit=$hit&Int=$intelligence&Spi=$spirit&map=$attackpower&arp=$armorp&Exp=$expertise

I noticed a minor rounding bug in exporting. On screen, values are rounded normally, but export strings truncate the values, I think.

Malan · 12/05/08, 4:27 PM

You should remove Drums of Battle since they aren't relevant to level 80 characters.

Triper · 12/05/08, 4:56 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Interesting, the sim was showing Dueling as being a significant drop in DPS. Must just be a gearing thing.

I do have quite a bit more passive haste than you (I'm at 10.03%). That may have something to do with it. I'll double-check the sim to make sure though.

Here are the precise results for my gear:

Totem of Splintering: 5425.95 DPS
Totem of the Elemental Plane: 5432.81 DPS
Stonebreaker's Totem: 5441.28 DPS
Totem of Hex: 5449.37 DPS
Totem of Dueling: 5452.04 DPS

Dueling and Hex are so close I don't think it really truly matters, but I'm a perfectionist so I'll be sticking with my Totem of Dueling.

tukez · 12/06/08, 7:57 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

Not all food buffs seem to be represented, the Expertise food in particular.

[Item not found!] is there.

Ardonomus · 12/06/08, 9:06 AM

I think all the old 70 foods are obsolete now compared to their new 80 counterparts, so they can probably be safely removed and replaced with the new food.

Here's a list of some of the new consumables we might benefit most from:

[taken from wowhead; filtering crafted by a profession and the stat in question > 0]

Armor penetration
[Elixir of Armor Piercing]
[Hearty Rhino]

Expertise
[Elixir of Expertise]
[Item not found!]

Attack Power
[Flask of Endless Rage]
[Wrath Elixir]
[Mega Mammoth Meal] or [Poached Northern Sculpin]
[Mammoth Meal] or [Grilled Sculpin]
[Dalaran Clam Chowder]

Crit rating
[Elixir of Deadly Strikes]
[Item not found!] or [Spicy Blue Nettlefish]
[Item not found!] or [Poached Nettlefish]

Haste rating
[Elixir of Lightning Speed]
[Potion of Speed]
[Imperial Manta Steak] or [Very Burnt Worg]
[Baked Manta Ray] or [Roasted Worg]

Hit rating
[Elixir of Accuracy]
[Snapper Extreme]

Spell Power
[Flask of the Frost Wyrm]
[Spellpower Elixir]
[Potion of Wild Magic]
[Firecracker Salmon] or [Tender Shoveltusk Steak]
[Smoked Salmon] or [Shoveltusk Steak]

Agility
[Elixir of Mighty Agility]
[Blackened Dragonfin]
[Guru's Elixir]

Intellect
[Elixir of Mighty Thoughts]
[Guru's Elixir]

Hornbreakerz · 12/06/08, 1:54 PM

This might be a stupid question, but how do you pass a config file to a certain simulator? I can't figure out how to change from the level 70 config, to the level 80.

Rouncer · 12/06/08, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hornbreakerz

This might be a stupid question, but how do you pass a config file to a certain simulator? I can't figure out how to change from the level 70 config, to the level 80.

Lower right corner where it says Path hit the browse button and select the simulator you want to use (although the level 70 one is no longer included in the folder so that should make it easier).

Hornbreakerz · 12/06/08, 2:14 PM

Done, thanks.

But now I have the expertise rating problem, it says the max amount of expertise rating I can have, before there is no more use of it, is 132. Now I know this is wrong, so what am I to do here? Boss dodge is at 6.5 and I am using the newest version of EnhSim.

Edit: And the EP calculation sim seems to crash every time I start it. At least when using the GUI

mjgunn · 12/06/08, 3:43 PM

Ok, I've found something a little strange with the sim. Been playing with my build a bit to work static shock in, since I've been unable to even give my mana away during raids no matter how hard I try. Using the sim, I find that if I drop Elemental Focus, it's a huge loss in dps, around 500. But if I drop the point from Shamanistic Focus, my DPS goes up 100. And this is with no other difference between the builds. Is this a fluke, I don't understand why my dps would possibly go up doing that.

P.S. Here's the build I'm looking at. If I put in the sim I have EF and SF, my dps is 4550ish,4kish with just SF, and 4650ish with just Elemental Focus. Shouldn't it be highest with both of them?