EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 42

Levva · 12/16/08, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by Stolf

I must say, great job everyone of you with all these calculations and stuff

Anyway, one thing is bothering me, and it is that, isn't a fast weapon "better" than a slow weapon with equal dps/stats and whatever? Since, doesn't the faster weapon procc Static shock and flurry more often because it swings faster? (I'm kinda new to this so correct my flaws, might've missed something etc.) Would be glad with a response!
Keep up the good work, cheers!

-/stolf

Why on earth do you need to ask this, especially in this thread, USE THE SIM!!!

This has been asked and answered a 1001 times, the answers are in the Think Tank article and the sim will provide personalised answers.

Tramana · 12/16/08, 8:05 PM

Enhsim tells me that including MW4_LB and MW3_LB in the priority list improves my dps. The enhancement TTT says that casting with less than 5 stacks resets the swing timer. Since these seem to be at odds, I wanted to test this out.

I took a 2 handed weapon 3.58 speed (including my haste) to make testing the mechanic easier. I have about 200ms latency. My lightning bolt has a 2.42 second cast time according to the tooltip.

Here are a few examples from the combatlog.

0 maelstrom -- 9.407 between swings, 3.4 seconds between spell damage and swing.
12/16 13:30:45.798 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 13:30:49.207 SPELL_CAST_START,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 13:30:51.835 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 13:30:55.205 SWING_DAMAGE
0 maelstrom -- 6.14 seconds between swings, 3.4 seconds between spell damage and swing
12/16 15:05:19.900 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 15:05:19.970 SPELL_CAST_START, "Lightning Bolt"
12/16 15:05:22.594 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 15:05:26.036 SWING_DAMAGE
1 maelstrom -- 3.6 seconds between swings
12/16 15:20:55.509 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 15:20:55.867 SPELL_CAST_START,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 15:20:56.114 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, "Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF
12/16 15:20:58.185 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF
12/16 15:20:58.242 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt",0x8,2818,2817,8,0,0,0,1,nil,nil
12/16 15:20:59.097 SWING_DAMAGE
2 maelstrom -- 2.7 seconds between flurry hasted swings
12/16 14:28:27.329 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 14:28:27.831 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF,2
12/16 14:28:27.841 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,"Flurry"
12/16 14:28:30.281 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 14:28:30.385 SPELL_CAST_START,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 14:28:31.889 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,"Maelstrom Weapon"
12/16 14:28:32.141 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 14:28:32.979 SWING_DAMAGE
3 maelstrom -- 3.6 seconds between swings
12/16 13:29:50.519 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 13:29:50.770 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE,"Maelstrom Weapon"
12/16 13:29:52.519 SPELL_CAST_START,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 13:29:53.530 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,"Maelstrom Weapon"
12/16 13:29:53.839 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 13:29:54.090 SWING_DAMAGE
4 maelstrom -- 7.31 seconds between swings (I timed the cast to clip the weapon swing)
12/16 14:58:14.949 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 14:58:15.854 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF,4
12/16 14:58:17.044 SPELL_CAST_START"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 14:58:18.681 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF
12/16 14:58:18.991 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 14:58:22.259 SWING_DAMAGE

Conclusions:

With 0 stacks of MW, the swing timer gets reset when you cast a spell.
With 1+ stacks of MW, the swing timer continues to run, and can clip weapon swings (much like the old warrior slam mechanic)
With 5 stacks of MW, the spell cast is instant so it doesn't interact with the swing.

Then I checked enhsim to see what mechanic it uses:

1 maelstrom -- 5.5 seconds between swings
0h 0m 0s MH crit 1896.49
0h 0m 0s Maelstrom Weapon stacks (1)
0h 0m 0.19s Casting started
0h 0m 1.91s Global cooldown off
0h 0m 2.12s Lightning Bolt hit 1827.39
0h 0m 5.5s MH glancing 684.968
2 maelstrom -- 5.01 seconds between swings
0h 0m 7.14s MH crit 2015.76
0h 0m 7.14s Maelstrom Weapon stacks (2)
0h 0m 7.33s Casting started
0h 0m 8.77s Lightning Bolt crit 3401.82
0h 0m 9.05s Global cooldown off
0h 0m 12.15s MH crit 2015.76

Looks like Enhsim pauses the swing timer during casts with MW stacks. It's hard to say which way this would bias rotations which use MW4_LB and MW3_LB. It would be nice if someone could try to reproduce what I'm seeing in my combatlog.

Rouncer · 12/16/08, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tramana

Enhsim tells me that including MW4_LB and MW3_LB in the priority list improves my dps. The enhancement TTT says that casting with less than 5 stacks resets the swing timer. Since these seem to be at odds, I wanted to test this out.

I've reported this a few times and even pmed Toots about the error.

I didn't get the clipping you are seeing with my testing on the Beta server though.

They changed the slam mechanism and I assumed they used the same one for MW especially since it worked that way for me.

Basically it just pauses the swing timer when you try to cast a spell with even a single stack of MW. It's not really possible to clip it since it should just be pausing the timer.

Try this test - wait 2 seconds after a swing hit and then start your cast with only 1-2 stacks of MW so that the cast time definitely clips the swing timer. You will see the spell cast and then the swing hit right after as if it was paused during the cast.

That was what I saw when I did the testing and that was what I reported back then. If it is clipping the swing timer when they both would go off exactly at the same time then it is something that definitely needs more testing.

Malan · 12/16/08, 10:50 PM

Is it actually pausing the swing timer for stacks 1-4? If so then the wiki article is definitely worded wrong, as right now I have it stating that it completely resets it.

Rouncer · 12/17/08, 1:52 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

Is it actually pausing the swing timer for stacks 1-4? If so then the wiki article is definitely worded wrong, as right now I have it stating that it completely resets it.

from my experience and testing it pauses it, not reset.

Tramana · 12/17/08, 2:02 AM

Look at my 4 maelstrom case. It looks like it's clipping. I'll retest to confirm for other maelstrom stacks timed to clip.

Rouncer · 12/17/08, 2:15 AM

Originally Posted by Tramana

Look at my 4 maelstrom case. It looks like it's clipping. I'll retest to confirm for other maelstrom stacks timed to clip.

Even if it can clip, and I think that is something else since I was intentionally trying to clip with only a 1-2 stack when I did my original testing, it is still irrelevant to Malan's question.

It pauses the swing timer since if it reset it then there wouldn't be any question of clipping or not.

If you try to cast a spell without any stacks of MW the swing timer is reset completely, even if the cast was quick quick enough to fit inside a single swing of your weapon. That isn't what is happening with even a single stack of MW so the wiki needs to be updated.

Tramana · 12/17/08, 3:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Even if it can clip, and I think that is something else since I was intentionally trying to clip with only a 1-2 stack when I did my original testing, it is still irrelevant to Malan's question.

It pauses the swing timer since if it reset it then there wouldn't be any question of clipping or not.

If you try to cast a spell without any stacks of MW the swing timer is reset completely, even if the cast was quick quick enough to fit inside a single swing of your weapon. That isn't what is happening with even a single stack of MW so the wiki needs to be updated.

Here is a MW2_LB clipping the swing.

12/16 22:49:55.388 SWING_DAMAGE
12/16 22:49:55.940 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF,2
12/16 22:49:57.774 SPELL_CAST_START,"Lightning Bolt",0x8
12/16 22:49:59.388 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,"Maelstrom Weapon",0x1,BUFF
12/16 22:49:59.698 SPELL_DAMAGE,"Lightning Bolt"
12/16 22:50:02.665 SWING_DAMAGE

From my paper doll I have a 3.52 second swing. From the tooltip for LB, Maelstrom Weapon x2 gives a 1.43 cast time.

If the swing timer is pausing the time between swings should be 3.52 + 1.43 = 4.95.
If the swing timer is clipping the time between swing should be 3.52*2 = 7.04.

The measured time between swings from the combatlog is 7.277. This fits with all the other data I've collected where the swing is not delayed if you can fit the cast in between swings, but you get a big delay if the cast falls on a swing.

Rouncer · 12/17/08, 4:16 AM

Originally Posted by Tramana

The measured time between swings from the combatlog is 7.277. This fits with all the other data I've collected where the swing is not delayed if you can fit the cast in between swings, but you get a big delay if the cast falls on a swing.

I started testing with the purpose of either proving you wrong or figuring out where I went wrong and instead I found something really interesting and a bit strange.

Try this out.

Hop on the PTR and remove all your talents.
Go over to the Targeting Dummy with your slow 2-hander.
Start autoattack.
Cast a Lava Burst right after a swing so that it should be able to fit inside the swingtimer.
Notice that your swingtimer reset.

Spec talents so that you have at least 1 point in MW.
Try the same thing again, using Lava Burst and without any charges of MW.
Notice that the Swingtimer doesn't reset if the cast fits inside the swing time.
Doesn't matter if you have charges of MW or even what spell you use.

It's not the charges that determine if the swingtimer resets it's whether you specced the talent or not.

The swingtimer does reset if it gets clipped though, you are right about that part. Something changed between my initial testing and now. I did the testing back when Lava Burst was usable with MW, before it would work with heals and before the charges were gained through the PPM mechanic so I guess they just coded the whole thing differently from how it worked when I initially tested it (either that or I just suck at testing, which is a distinct possibility).

SentinelBorg · 12/17/08, 8:30 AM

This would mean, that the chance of a MW_4 LB reseting our swing timer is rather low if you use two slow weapons and that probably using MW with 4 charges could result in an dps increase over today's MW_5 LB priority.

Rouncer · 12/17/08, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by SentinelBorg

This would mean, that the chance of a MW_4 LB reseting our swing timer is rather low if you use two slow weapons and that probably using MW with 4 charges could result in an dps increase over today's MW_5 LB priority.

I'm actually thinking that could be wrong but I'm not sure how to model it. If either weapon tries to swing before the cast is complete the swingtimers for both should be reset. Whether the chance of them being reset is going to be a dps decrease is a question I'll leave to the smarter members of our community to answer.

HeeroTheShaman · 12/17/08, 11:32 AM

I'd like to see a mac update for the new consumables and such, or is there a way to edit it to update it?

I downloaded the newest windows one, and moved the new source files into the mac ones, but it didn't do anything (i don't know anything about MAc coding, just thought it might work.)

SentinelBorg · 12/17/08, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rounced

I'm actually thinking that could be wrong but I'm not sure how to model it. If either weapon tries to swing before the cast is complete the swingtimers for both should be reset. Whether the chance of them being reset is going to be a dps decrease is a question I'll leave to the smarter members of our community to answer.

The best thing would be to update the code of the simulator with your findings.

Malan · 12/17/08, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by HeeroTheShaman

I'd like to see a mac update for the new consumables and such, or is there a way to edit it to update it?

I downloaded the newest windows one, and moved the new source files into the mac ones, but it didn't do anything (i don't know anything about MAc coding, just thought it might work.)

Yah you can't just do that, once the binary is compiled it no longer references the source files. You'll have to recompile on OS X every time Tukez puts out a new version, and he hasn't done so since the 1.50 release that he included some changes so that OS X can compile it properly.

scalax · 12/17/08, 5:32 PM

Hello all.

I'm currently experiencing a problem with the last version of EnhSim (1.5.0)
Basically when i try to calculate my EP i'm getting this error

ep_mp5 not found from config.
ep_spirit not found from config.
ep_mana not found from config.
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left not found from config.
spi not found from config.
arcane_resistance not found from config.
shadow_resistance not found from config.
max_mana not found from config.
mp5 not found from config.
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left not found from config.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.Calculation 2/14: Attack power calcula
ted.

Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calcul
ated.

Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.Calculation 6/14: Expertise calculated.

Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculate
d.

Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.

Calculation 12/14: Mana skipped.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit skipped.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 skipped.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.


EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      2086
ap                        1         0         2100           14
crit rating               2         1         2100           14
hit rating                3         1         2104           18
expertise rating          2         1         2103           17
haste rating              1         0         2095           9
armor penetration rating  1         0         2091           5
spellpower                1         0         2093           7
mh dps                    5         2         2100           14
oh dps                    3         1         2094           8
strength                  1
agility                   2
intelligence*             1
spirit                    0         0         0              -2086
mana                      0         0         0              -2086
mp5                       0         0         0              -2086

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.
( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1, CritRating=2, HitRating=3, HasteRating=1, ExpertiseR
ating=2, ArmorPenetration=1, SpellDamage=1, MainHandDps=5, OffHandDps=3, Strengt
h=1, Agility=2, Intellect=1, Spirit=0, Mana=0, Mp5=0 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1&mh=1&dps=5&mp5=0&mcr=2&odps=3&sp
d=1&Agi=2&mhit=3&Int=1&Spi=0&map=1&arp=1&Exp=2

elapsed simulation time: 11000h
elapsed real time: 46s
simulation speed: 864704x

My configuration file is the following:

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         150
max_lag                         180
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    0
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           40
ep_crit_rating                  20
ep_hit_rating                   20
ep_expertise                    3
ep_haste_rating                 20
ep_armor_penetration_rating     20
ep_spellpower                   24
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         
ep_spirit                       
ep_mp5                          

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    

rotation_priority_count         5
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              LS

miss                            9.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        25.0
armor                           7700
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               
shadow_resistance               

armor_debuff_major              0/3925
armor_debuff_minor              0/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          0/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 0/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   0/52
agi_and_strength_buff           0/178
intellect_buff                  0/60

replenishment                   0
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.60
mh_dps                          143.2
oh_dps                          130.2
mh_crit                         25.48
oh_crit                         25.48
mh_hit                          6.59
oh_hit                          6.59
mh_expertise_rating             12
oh_expertise_rating             17
ap                              3044
haste                           3.69
armor_penetration               4.87
str                             131
agi                             704
int                             454
spi                             
spellpower                      1187
spell_crit                      19.03
spell_hit                       8.23
max_mana                        
mp5                             

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        sphere_of_red_dragons_blood
trinket2                        shard_of_contempt

totem                           stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus                       -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    stormstrike
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    lava_lash

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      2/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

What i did wrong ?

Malan · 12/17/08, 5:38 PM

You can't just blank out the values, tukez has a specific format to indicate a zero or null value. You need to either use a 0 or a - to indicate these things. Check the annotated config file for the full list of what options you can use.

Rouncer · 12/17/08, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by scalax

What i did wrong ?

The other thing is that you only set it to 1 degree of precision for the EP values, up it to 3 degrees and the results will look better.

HeeroTheShaman · 12/17/08, 5:55 PM

So Malan, how do i recompile?

Malan · 12/17/08, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by HeeroTheShaman

So Malan, how do i recompile?

EnhSim: Compiling and building EnhSim

Gartixxar · 12/17/08, 7:57 PM

I was running the simulator to get new EP values since I had not run this simulator in a week or 2 and my gear has changed a fair bit since then.

and heres what I put in


			
simulation_time                 200000

simulation_time_combatlog       30

combat_length                   6

report_count                    80

threads                         2

min_lag                         0

max_lag                         0

simulate_mana                   0



ep_precision                    3

ep_base_stat                    ap

ep_ap                           64

ep_crit_rating                  46

ep_hit_rating                   30

ep_expertise                    0

ep_haste_rating                 33

ep_armor_penetration_rating     15

ep_spellpower                   28

ep_dps                          10.0

ep_mana                         200

ep_spirit                       100

ep_mp5                          20



mh_auto_attack                  1

oh_auto_attack                  1

wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0

cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0

bloodlust_casters               2

sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0

cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15

cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4

cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1

cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0

cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0

cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700

use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000



rotation_priority_count         6

rotation_priority1              FS

rotation_priority2              MW5_LB

rotation_priority3              SS

rotation_priority4              ES

rotation_priority5              LL

rotation_priority6              LS



miss                            9.00

dodge                           6.50

glancing                        25.00

armor                           13083

spell_miss                      17.00

nature_resistance               0

fire_resistance                 0

frost_resistance                0

arcane_resistance               0

shadow_resistance               0



armor_debuff_major              3925/3925

armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260

physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0

melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0

melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0

attack_power_buff_flat          688/688

attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7

spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0

spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0

spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0

spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0

spellpower_buff                 280/280

spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0

haste_buff                      3.0/3.0

percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0

crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0

stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0

stat_add_buff                   52/52

agi_and_strength_buff           178/178

intellect_buff                  60/60



replenishment                   1

water_shield                    0

mana_spring_totem               1

blessing_of_wisdom              0

judgement_of_wisdom             1



flask_elixir                    elixir_of_major_agility

guardian_elixir                 elixir_of_draenic_wisdom

potion                          -

food                            -

misc_item                       -



###############################################################################

### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###

### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###

###############################################################################



race                            tauren

mh_speed                        2.50

oh_speed                        1.60

mh_dps                          143.6

oh_dps                          156.6

mh_crit                         27.30

oh_crit                         27.30

mh_hit                          11.13

oh_hit                          11.13

mh_expertise_rating             209.00

oh_expertise_rating             209.00

ap                              3331

haste                           2.65

armor_penetration               0.00

str                             133

agi                             709































int                             424

spi                             153

spellpower                      1273

spell_crit                      22.62

spell_hit                       13.91

max_mana                        10476

mp5                             0



mh_imbue                        windfury

oh_imbue                        -



mh_enchant                      mongoose

oh_enchant                      mongoose



mh_weapon                       -

oh_weapon                       -



trinket1                        mirror_of_truth

trinket2                        sphere_of_red_dragons_blood



totem                           totem_of_splintering



set_bonus                       -



metagem                         -



glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon

glyph_major2                    stormstrike

glyph_major3                    flametongue_weapon



glyph_minor1                    -

glyph_minor2                    -

glyph_minor3                    -



ancestral_knowledge             5/5

improved_shields                3/3

mental_dexterity                3/3

shamanistic_focus               1/1

flurry                          5/5

elemental_weapons               3/3

unleashed_rage                  0/5

weapon_mastery                  3/3

dual_wield_specialization       3/3

mental_quickness                3/3

improved_stormstrike            2/2

static_shock                    3/3

maelstrom_weapon                5/5



convection                      2/5

concussion                      5/5

call_of_flame                   0/3

elemental_devastation           3/3

reverberation                   0/5

elemental_focus                 1/1

elemental_fury                  5/5

call_of_thunder                 0/1

unrelenting_storm               0/5

elemental_precision             0/3

lightning_mastery               0/5

elemental_oath                  0/2

lightning_overload              0/5

lava_flows                      0/3

storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

The EP values I get are:


			


ap            1.00

crit          1.62

hit           3.10

expertise     0.00(capped)

haste         1.57

armor pen     1.22

Mh dps        7.24

oh dps        2.76

strength      1.10

agility       1.79

int           1.37

For the most part, those seem right to me, what is bugging me is agility has a higher value then crit, is there something I am doing wrong or is the simulator correct ? I turned off Mana simulation because it always kept giving me 5.0 for intellect.

Nevets_69 · 12/17/08, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Gartixxar

I was running the simulator to get new EP values since I had not run this simulator in a week or 2 and my gear has changed a fair bit since then.

For the most part, those seem right to me, what is bugging me is agility has a higher value then crit, is there something I am doing wrong or is the simulator correct ? I turned off Mana simulation because it always kept giving me 5.0 for intellect.

You don't have an imbue on your off-hand. Add that and it will increase the value of crit substantially since FT can crit, but agi won't up that.

Golnar · 12/18/08, 10:36 AM

How do I get the new consumables working? I have 1.5.0 downloaded.

Malan · 12/18/08, 11:20 AM

What consumables are you talking about?

Golnar · 12/18/08, 11:56 AM

I've tried putting in Elixir of Expertise, Elixir of Mighty Thought, Snapper Extreme, and Flask of Endless Rage. All say it couldn't be found for me.

Malan · 12/18/08, 12:11 PM

Please tell me that you aren't actually typing "Flask of Endless Rage" into the config file.