English as your second (or n'th) language is not the problem -- your statistics are all negative. There is either something wrong in your config or you've entered something wrong. If these were all positive numbers, Armor Pen would not provided the greatest DPS benefit -- Spell Power, Crit Rating, and Hit Rating would give you the best DPS.

I've suffered from this previously and haven't been able to find the needle in the haystack. Instead of pulling my hair, I re-downloaded a new copy, overwrote all the old stuff, re-entered all the stats, and re-ran it. Don't rely on data until most (if not all) the numbers are positive.

Yeah thank you. Im 4 Items away from - what I belive - is BiS for me, So until Ulduar this is settled, but I would like to understand the Sim, just in case =)

Since Magma totems damage is being buffed, could we get an option to use Magma totem in the sim over searing? Also, I might just be blind, but I cannot find an option to enable or disable the use of Feral Spirits, I read through the majority of this thread and did not see anything stated on that.

Also, my haste value seems to jump around between 1.15 and 1.89ish when running multiple EP simulations, I read somewhere that procs etc coinciding at different times can cause stuff like this, but isn't that a pretty decent difference?

Thanks for the great utility =) I appreciate all the time and effort you have put into it.

Keeping Magma Up might be very very mana intensive, but never the less ...

Abtout Feral Spirits: They should come around 100DPS if you keep them on cooldown, and IF they do not die by various reasons, since they have no AE survival of any kind. plus they are currently bugged and do not scale with AP or Hitraiting. Plus the Spirit Walk ability is/was bugged and did not free you from certain effects.

All in All you gotta love this Spirit Wolfes =)

Patch should be coming up soon that will fix their scaling. On the PTR full raid buffed they will average 200dps considering a 25% uptime. Spirit Walk also is supposedly fixed as well although I have not had an opportunity to test that.

The sarcasm is really unnecessary and all in all I think they are an incredible ability that is not deserving of your scorn.

As for Magma totem based on the PTR it currently will be doing slightly more damage then Searing totem, on a single target, but even if mana was not a concern having to refresh it 3x as often is and those additional GCDs will reduce the dps contribution from Magma to the point where Searing will be better on a single target. Searing also has more range which means it won't be affected by potential movement of the target.

ok, ive ran this sim countless times and its telling me that the stray is the best possible OH for me, but thats very hard to believe...can someone plz look this over and tell me what/if im doing something wrong?

The World of Warcraft Armory

thats my current armory...would love the help, or just for someone to tell me im not crazy, cause i thought AD, WD, and anarchy would all be better OH's

Could still be added though for the sake of completeness? :P

Dear All,
my main is a shammy called gillyn. Whilst usually a healer, I've been working on a set of dps gear and a pretty vanilla spec 16/55/0 spec so that I can fill in in raids if we need more dps.

Armory link here.

The World of Warcraft Armory

As you can see, I don't have th best gear in the world but its far from being the worst. I've been using ShammyFriend and ShockandAwe and Recount is saying my dps ranges from 1.6k up to around 2.4k depending on bosses, trash and buffs.

So, I thought I'd use the simulator to try and help pick the best gear (is 40 +hit worth dropping for another 40 expertise? etc). I've put in details from /saa and filled out the gui but the silumator is telloing me I'm getti9ng 800dps!!!

I'm assuming that I'm either reading the output wrong, or I've missed something.

Config file here:
I'd be very grateful if someone could tell me where I'm going wrong.

Cheers, Jim.

There for starters. Don't address your posts and don't sign them. There are clear forum rules for posting on these forums and keep in mind that it is a privilege, not a right. So take a few minutes and read through the rules, maybe scan some of the banhammer posts, before making another post.

That said, the issue is that you haven't selected anything in your priority list. So basically you just have yourself autoattacking and nothing else. You need to select attacks and order them for the sim to model.

I got 204 expertise but I'm getting a over the cap warning from the sim&0ep for expertise, is this a bug or am i missing something?

My first question would be what type of EP stepping are you using for expertise?

Excuse me for being a nab, but what is ep stepping? :P

"ep_precision 0
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 40
ep_crit_rating 20
ep_hit_rating 20
ep_expertise 3
ep_haste_rating 20
ep_armor_penetration_rating 20
ep_spellpower 24
ep_dps 7.5
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20

You mean this? its the default.

EP stepping is the amount of each stat that is added (or subtracted if you make it a negative value) during an iteration of the sim run. If a particular stat is coming out at an extremely low value (haste, expertise, hit -mainly as you approach a cap or a particular weapon speed) then you can try making it negative and the resulting value will be as though the cap didn't exist or you hadn't reached it yet. Just be sure to remove the negative before you plug it into pawn or lootrank or you'll get some odd results.

Thanks, added

and now up to around 2k dps - certainly more like what I'm seeing in recount. Thanks for the help. Comments on the rotation welcome.

Don't forget Searing Totem (ST).

You'd benefit greatly from examining your gems (and getting a belt gem socket) and a new MH weapon enchant.

Thanks that worked .

I'm getting really low expertise EP values. I used -1 and -4 as the expertise ep range. What's wrong?



expertise rating value:0.65 DPS: 0.29 total DPS:2861.43 difference:1.13




simulation_time 10000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 6
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0

ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise -1
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0

mh_speed 2.5
oh_speed 1.3
mh_dps 143.5
oh_dps 130
mh_crit 16.07
oh_crit 16.07
mh_hit 7.65
oh_hit 7.65
mh_expertise_rating 164
oh_expertise_rating 164
ap 2365
haste 5.03
armor_penetration 5.46
str 123
agi 606
int 229
spellpower 709
spell_crit 9.45
spell_hit 9.57
base_mana 4396

mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue

mh_enchant -
oh_enchant -

trinket1 -
trinket2 shard_of_contempt

totem stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus -

metagem -

glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 -

glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -

mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
wait_mw_if_lvb_cd_left 0
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0

rotation_priority_count 6
rotation_priority1 FS
rotation_priority2 MW5_LB
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 ES
rotation_priority5 LL
rotation_priority6 LS

miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 10850
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0

ancestral_knowledge 3/5
improved_shields 0/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/5

armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60

flask_elixir -
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food -
misc_item -

Would you be able to put in Magma totem for the simulator in the future by any chance? After the patch, I decided to use Magma totem in place of searing totem and my dps shot through the roof on Patchwerk. Here's a parse:

WoW Meter Online

With the use of tools like chardev.org, I've been attempting to ascertain the set of gear that is best in slot. There are a few pieces that stand out as pieces to work a set around e.g. Blue Aspect Helm and Boots of the Renewed Flight; however, I've noticed that there is no accepted best in slot gear posting like other classes/specs (hopefully I didn't fail at /search). I know that our gear, EP, and "relative" best in slot items change wildly with slight changes to gear, gems, enchants, etc. I was just curious if there is a good way (without trying all permutations) to find each best in slot item with EnhSim's to back up the choices per slot? Obviously you would follow the guidelines of capping hit, expertise, activating meta's with gems, etc. This also brings up questions such as, "Is t7/7.5 4-piece bonus worth x+y item's stats?"

It seems relatively intuitive to me that keeping the set pieces in the enhance tier would be highly recommended (as I've yet to sim a combination which vastly outperformed the set bonuses), but the question can still be asked without numerical comparison. Any methods or tools that might make such an endeavour simpler would be much appreciated, perhaps peer reviewing best in slot sets would help elucidate the best OH's in the same process.

You do realize that your dps shot through the roof mostly due to the new Windfury Glyph not from Magma Totem.

Magma Totem is maybe 40dps more then Searing Totem and costs 2 additional GCDs per minute to maintain (and about 3k additional mana per minute as well).

Windfury Attacks are up about 200dps with the glyph changes.

Spirit Wolf scaling also is playing a role and gaining you another 40 or so dps.

What else are you doing with those GCDs?