EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 69

Rouncer · 04/14/09, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

Ah so you are in dentistry?? No wonder you like inflicting pain

I think the issue really is not that Tukez deliberately allowed ambiguity but that this discourse has uncovered a flaw in how the sim config is working.

I would never suggest anything wrong with how Tukez is doing things, I love the sim and appreciate all the work he has done making it available to us. I was just stating that if there is an ambiguity in the design of the sim then we will have another 6 months of people screwing things up and having weird results and then posting massive config files here for people to debug.

Always easier to just work off the assumption that people are stupid and if there is a way to screw things up they will find it and then try to make the Simulator "bullet-proof" against that assumption.

People rarely read directions and if something is working they just keep doing what they did to make it work the first time.

Changing the set bonuses to only be the one selected should avoid one such trap and it seems like it would be easier to have the Sim throw an error code to the little screen and to the run itself if someone was to have a 4 piece bonus selected without the 2 piece bonus also being selected then to try and avoid people using the same bonus multiple times.

Levva · 04/14/09, 11:04 AM

Tukez would it be possible to visually indicate in EnhSimGUI when data has changed after being loaded. I was thinking of the usual asterix on the title bar to indicate that the current data set visible had not been saved.

Similarly could we have a bit of feedback when the sim has imported the config data, a warning box perhaps (made optional for those that don't want it) or a beep, or something to say yup I've finished importing. When making really minor changes to test stuff and importing it can be tricky to know if you did actually click import as there is currently no feedback that it did anything unless you notice what changed.

Nevets_69 · 04/14/09, 12:12 PM

I'm getting an unhandled exception error whenever I try to calculate EP values with a flask selected.

The error pops up right after the baseline DPS is calculated, and at some point during the AP calculation. The error gives what I assume is a line number, but it varies pretty wildly. Really sorry I can't give anything more helpful, my computer keeps asking if I want to debug instead of just giving me the error report, and I can't seem fix that.

Everything works fine if I choose no flask, so I've been doing that in the meantime. Is anyone else getting this error? I didn't submit a bug report on the enhsim page because I have no error report. Hope someone else can help.

Here is my config file:

simulation_time                 500
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         100
max_lag                         250
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           300
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    4
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         9
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              ES_SS
rotation_priority5              SS
rotation_priority6              ES
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8              LS
rotation_priority9              LL

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          687/687
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   0
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         34.19
oh_crit                         34.19
mh_hit                          12.11
oh_hit                          12.11
mh_expertise_rating             138
oh_expertise_rating             138
ap                              3777
melee_haste                     3.69
armor_penetration               5.52
str                             133
agi                             822
int                             449
spi                             156
spellpower                      1133
spell_crit                      28.30
spell_hit                       15.13
spell_haste                     2.84
max_mana                        10851
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        grim_toll

totem                           totem_of_hex

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         chaotic_skyflare_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               0/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   3/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

And here is the output, such as it is:

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 2.27364% (59.6421 hit rating).
Mh expertise + EP range goes past cap by 3.83441 expertise (31.4325 expertise rating).
Oh expertise + EP range goes past cap by 3.83441 expertise (31.4325 expertise rating).

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.
Calculation 12/14: Mana skipped.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit skipped.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 skipped.

Nothing else gets printed after that. Note, I set the run time low deliberately since I wasn't getting anything useful anyway.

Edit: Version: EnhSim1.6.8 - woops, meant to include this with my original post.

Levva · 04/14/09, 12:56 PM

The one thing you could do that would be helpful is tell us which version it was.

Tukez - suggestion the first line of the output file should output the version number to aid debugging.

underscore · 04/14/09, 1:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rounced

It just took me 30 seconds to prove to myself that you need to include both set bonuses and 20 seconds was just getting the GUI open on my desktop at work.

With both bonuses selected - 6226.74dps
with just Naxx Melee 4 selected - 6201.84dps

If you are going to state something like that then at least confirm that it works the way you say it does. Even if it says it works that way in the config file, take the time to at least do a minimal confirmation.

Hozzer the issue is a bug with the Simulator. For whatever reason if you input a 10% uptime for Unleashed Rage it drops your dps incredibly. If you use the default 99.7% or even just have it unselected and have the talents in place in your talent panel it works fine. It's definitely a bug though since unclicking the option and not having the talents still had my dps at 5753 whereas selecting for a 10% uptime took it to 2896.

Had it occurred to you that I had already done that test during my own usage? I didn't consider it to be a bug since the config tells you not do do it, even if it doesn't tell you why not to do it. I don't understand how what I said was a problem, considering the very first sentence I wrote fixed his problem, and the other two items I wrote were merely additions I noticed while comparing his config to my own.

Levva · 04/14/09, 6:07 PM

Tukez in the output.txt file there is the first section that gives dps breakdowns of everything used - apart from Searing/Magma totem. Is this just an oversight? Could you add it please? It would help me enormously in tracking down differences in Rawr.Enhance vs Enhsim figures.

Celadina · 04/15/09, 3:06 AM

Hiya, first time poster here, but long time reader. I've just downloaded the newest version of Enhsim, v1.6.8, to play around with the new glyphs. I seem to be getting low dps numbers. My white, WF, and SS dps are all very low, aswell as my overall. I've looked over my settings a million times and I just can't seem to pin point what I am overlooking. I know its gunna be something stupid and I'm going to facepalm. Thanks a ton for the second set of eyes =)

The config:

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   3
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              ES_SS
rotation_priority4              ES
rotation_priority5              SS
rotation_priority6              MT
rotation_priority7              LS
rotation_priority8              LL

miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        24.00
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          haste_potion
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.50
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         32.42
oh_crit                         32.42
mh_hit                          10.55
oh_hit                          10.55
mh_expertise_rating             144.00
oh_expertise_rating             144.00
ap                              3939
melee_haste                     3.81
armor_penetration               5.52
str                             129
agi                             965
int                             468
spi                             153
spellpower                      1181
spell_crit                      22.93
spell_hit                       13.19
spell_haste                     2.93
max_mana                        11136
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        fury_of_the_five_flights
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           totem_of_hex

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   2/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Output file:

MH:
miss                2316635        9.44%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            5874698        23.94%
hit                 4479382        18.26%
crit                11864581       48.36%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.08%
procs/swings        13.86%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 3861948        48.71%
crit                4066986        51.29%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1987796        48.77%
crit                2088050        51.23%

OH:
miss                2406456        9.44%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            6109336        23.96%
hit                 4652977        18.24%
crit                12334376       48.36%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 17974972       56.02%
crit                14112641       43.98%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1987431        48.76%
crit                2088415        51.24%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3118005        56.01%
crit                2448521        43.99%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 2392704        48.68%
crit                2522374        51.32%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 2884308        55.99%
crit                2267020        44.01%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4497784        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 46.95

flurry uptime                  89.75%
unleashed rage uptime          100.00%
elemental devastation uptime   80.48%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              41.42%
oh enchant uptime              36.73%
trinket1 uptime                0.00%
trinket2 uptime                32.44%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 17.63     12.31%
replenishment       33.25     23.21%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 8.80      6.14%
shamanistic rage    83.59     58.34%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               9.24      0.29%     83.40
windfury            3.65      0.11%     6.61
flametongue         567.45    17.58%    53.48
stormstrike         1.74      0.05%     6.79      37.43     19.04%
lava lash           223.00    6.91%     8.19      16.24     8.27%
magma totem         542.94    16.82%    2.96      55.01     27.99%
earth shock         667.63    20.69%    9.28      36.93     18.79%
lightning bolt      908.97    28.16%    8.59      50.92     25.91%
lightning shield    302.94    9.39%     0.83      0.00      0.00%

DPS                 3227.56
MPS                 196.54
MP2min              23584.29
MRPS                206.52
Out of mana time    0.13%

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 31.75s
simulation speed: 1133858x

Bellante · 04/15/09, 3:17 AM

I'm also seeing some odd results with 1.6.8, with a dps that lands about 2500. I tried migrating my 1.5.9 config to the new sim, and input dummy haste values just to have something to fiddle with. Fixed bloodlust casters to 1, fixed the buffs to percentage based armor debuffs and what have you. My config is here, can't see if there's anything that's screwed up. The dps number looks ridiculous, but I have no idea if it's a bug with the sim or a bug with me. Never had problems getting enhsim running before, so any input would be appreciated.

Edit: Doh, had overseen the 5/3 unleashed rage. That took care of the problem.

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         100
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              SW
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              ES_SS
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              MT
rotation_priority7              LS
rotation_priority8              LL

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.50
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         33.33
oh_crit                         33.33
mh_hit                          11.22
oh_hit                          11.22
mh_expertise_rating             145.00
oh_expertise_rating             145.00
ap                              3805
melee_haste                     5.0
armor_penetration               4.42
str                             135
agi                             892
int                             461
spi                             155
spellpower                      1141
spell_crit                      24.67
spell_hit                       14.03
spell_haste                     5.0
max_mana                        11031
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        loathebs_shadow
trinket2                        grim_toll

totem                           totem_of_hex

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    lightning_shield
glyph_major2                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

................................................................................

MH:
miss                232714         9.78%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            571068         24.00%
hit                 444578         18.68%
crit                1131198        47.54%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.26%
procs/swings        13.99%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 384759         49.44%
crit                393453         50.56%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 199658         49.60%
crit                202865         50.40%

OH:
miss                242761         9.80%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            594512         24.00%
hit                 464531         18.75%
crit                1175286        47.45%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1851109        59.34%
crit                1268393        40.66%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 199805         49.64%
crit                202718         50.36%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 313081         59.22%
crit                215609         40.78%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 239334         49.59%
crit                243316         50.41%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 295626         59.13%
crit                204334         40.87%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 436188         100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               97868          6.48%
glancing            362472         24.01%
hit                 875662         58.00%
crit                173716         11.51%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 45.61

flurry uptime                  89.27%
unleashed rage uptime          99.99%
elemental devastation uptime   76.03%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              41.09%
oh enchant uptime              37.08%
trinket1 uptime                16.67%
trinket2 uptime                20.58%
totem uptime                   0.00%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               466.24    18.65%    80.94
windfury            256.81    10.27%    6.49
flametongue         281.08    11.24%    51.99
stormstrike         89.65     3.59%     6.71      0.00      0.00%
lava lash           53.62     2.14%     8.04      22.16     11.30%
magma totem         376.40    15.06%    2.86      53.22     27.13%
earth shock         355.94    14.24%    8.81      56.94     29.03%
lightning bolt      400.22    16.01%    8.33      61.05     31.13%
lightning shield    131.12    5.25%     0.81      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       88.76     3.55%     0.33      2.75      1.40%

DPS                 2499.83
MPS                 196.12
MP2min              23534.70
MRPS                0.00
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 1.33s
simulation speed: 2710843x

hozzer · 04/15/09, 3:30 AM

This is the only thing I can spot in your config that looks wrong.

unleashed_rage                  5/3

Sansa · 04/15/09, 3:55 AM

I'm having the same issue. Used the sim without a problem before this, just upgraded to 1.6.8 from 1.5.9, made sure the right executable was being used. enhSim errors out when i use flask of endless rage, when i take that out it works but sims me doing around ~2900 dps when it should be more like 5800. I neeeed the sim to work so I can figure out what to replace my expertise gems with (AP? Agi? Haste? Crit?)!!

EDITED TO ADD: I deleted all my folders of EnhSim and reinstalled. Now after p utting all my stats back in, I get an unhandled exception error.

See the end of this message for details on invoking
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at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
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at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

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Nubittos · 04/15/09, 4:09 AM

I had the whitehit dmg issue too. (was showing about 2500 dps)
I simply loaded the new config file and retyped the values and it worked again.

Pitbuller · 04/15/09, 5:02 AM

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260

This should be:

armor_debuff_major              20/20
armor_debuff_minor              5/5

Celadina · 04/15/09, 5:12 AM

Thank you pitbuller. That did the trick =) Don't know how it got that way, I dont touch those values. *shrug* Now, onto glyph testing! ^_^

AeroByte · 04/15/09, 5:18 AM

After upgrading to the new version i god very odd DPS as well.. The armor defuff values are changed to percentages.

What is weird is that the LOWER i set my AP the more dmg i get. 4500 AP = 1100 DPS, 1300 AP = 1900 DPS.. (both much lower than what i do on a bossfight (4-5k).

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       1500
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         4
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   0
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.5
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          143.6
oh_dps                          143.5
mh_crit                         26.56
oh_crit                         26.56
mh_hit                          11.31
oh_hit                          11.31
mh_expertise_rating             138
oh_expertise_rating             138
ap                              4168
melee_haste                     7.86
armor_penetration               2.01
str                             339
agi                             933
int                             628
spi                             204
spellpower                      1657
spell_crit                      20.88
spell_hit                       14.31
spell_haste                     14.31
max_mana                        13500
mp5                             251

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        bandits_insignia
trinket2                        grim_toll

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_2
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthstorm_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    water_mastery

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Kalmorion · 04/15/09, 5:24 AM

I think your problem, Aerobyte, is that you are simulating mana and do not have any mana refreshing buffs active like replenishment, mana spring totem etc. So the Sim calculates a large percentage where you are OOM. Also you haven't activated many buffs.

AeroByte · 04/15/09, 6:20 AM

Originally Posted by Kalmorion

I think your problem, Aerobyte, is that you are simulating mana and do not have any mana refreshing buffs active like replenishment, mana spring totem etc. So the Sim calculates a large percentage where you are OOM. Also you haven't activated many buffs.

The calculated OOM time is 0%, so it can't be the problem. Just tested the config i posted i 1.5.9.1 and it calculated 4200 DPS.

Also tried to calculated my EP in the new version. It went all nuts. The EP ranged from -500 to +2000 for some of the stats.

Kalmorion · 04/15/09, 6:40 AM

Also you have

unleashed_rage                  5/3

in your Config.

Try changing it to 5/5 or 3/3. I still run with 5/5 and get proper results.

AeroByte · 04/15/09, 6:49 AM

Originally Posted by Kalmorion

Also you have

unleashed_rage                  5/3

in your Config.

Try changing it to 5/5 or 3/3. I still run with 5/5 and get proper results.

The Unleashed Rage did most of the trick. Still a 500 DPS difference compared to the old version though.

tukez · 04/15/09, 7:36 AM

Originally Posted by Kalmorion

Also you have

unleashed_rage                  5/3

in your Config.

Try changing it to 5/5 or 3/3. I still run with 5/5 and get proper results.

You should use 3/3. 5/5 will give more bonus.

Cochice · 04/15/09, 11:57 AM

So I haven't simmed for EP in a bit and I just did last night on account of the patch, and I got values over 2.0 for both haste and crit. Anyone else having this happen? I may have messed something up in my new config, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.

My other values all seem relatively normal, other people getting this?

simulation_time                 15000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    6
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         7
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              LS
rotation_priority7              MT

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_relentless_assault
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          171.4
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         33.22
oh_crit                         33.22
mh_hit                          10.67
oh_hit                          10.67
mh_expertise_rating             146
oh_expertise_rating             146
ap                              3953
melee_haste                     2.58
armor_penetration               7.79
str                             137
agi                             963
int                             504
spi                             161
spellpower                      1185
spell_crit                      23.97
spell_hit                       13.34
spell_haste                     1.97
max_mana                        117000
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        fury_of_the_five_flights
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           deadly_gladiators_totem_of_indomitability

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    lightning_shield
glyph_major2                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               0/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   1/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 1.48364% (38.9189 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
Calculation 12/14: Mana skipped.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit skipped.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 skipped.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.


EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      5719.85
ap                        1.00      0.54      5827.09        107.24
crit rating               2.05      1.10      5752.75        32.90
hit rating                1.79      0.96      5748.69        28.85
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -5719.85
haste rating              2.57      1.38      5761.24        41.40
armor penetration rating  1.78      0.96      5748.51        28.66
spellpower                1.13      0.61      5810.80        90.95
mh dps                    5.58      2.99      5742.27        22.42
oh dps                    2.55      1.37      5730.10        10.25
strength                  1.10      
agility                   1.79      
intelligence*             1.51      
spirit                    0.00      0.00      0.00           -5719.85
mana                      0.00      0.00      0.00           -5719.85
mp5                       0.00      0.00      0.00           -5719.85

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.
( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=2.05, HitRating=1.79, HasteRating=2.57, ExpertiseRating=0.00, ArmorPenetration=1.78, SpellDamage=1.13, MainHandDps=5.58, OffHandDps=2.55, Strength=1.10, Agility=1.79, Intellect=1.51, Spirit=0.00, Mana=0.00, Mp5=0.00 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1.10&mh=2.57&dps=5.58&mp5=0.00&mcr=2.05&odps=2.55&spd=1.13&Agi=1.79&mhit=1.79&Int=1.51&Spi=0.00&map=1.00&arp=1.78&Exp=0.00

elapsed simulation time: 150000.00h
elapsed real time: 222.41s
simulation speed: 2427992x

Rouncer · 04/15/09, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cochice

So I haven't simmed for EP in a bit and I just did last night on account of the patch, and I got values over 2.0 for both haste and crit. Anyone else having this happen? I may have messed something up in my new config, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.

My other values all seem relatively normal, other people getting this?

Looks fine to me, although you did forget to turn on the Feral Spirits in the priority list which would decrease the value of crit since they don't get any crit rating from us.

Lucentia · 04/15/09, 12:06 PM

I was noticing on my config when i imported it from RAWR that it would only usually attribute the naxx_melee_4 set bonus, not the naxx_melee_2 bonus... I would assume you need both selected for accurate results right?

Just tossing that up there because i noticed your config says the same thing Cochice.

I could be mistaken and just be messing up my config by putting both in there though, i don't know heh, but when i simmed it out my agi, hit, haste, and crit are all almost identical (between 1.64 and 1.69) with ArPen at about 1.32. was interesting to see them so closely balanced.

I did my sim kind of haphazardly, just took my stats, and then pulled out expertise gems until i was back down to the cap, then simmed with the empty sockets to see what should go in them, ended up using AP gems.

Cochice · 04/15/09, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Looks fine to me, although you did forget to turn on the Feral Spirits in the priority list which would decrease the value of crit since they don't get any crit rating from us.

Oh good call, I forgot they were active in this version.

[e] Just playing around with wolves, and they're consistently resulting in a ~20 dps loss. No time to wait for EP atm, since I'm already late for class.

Quaunaut · 04/15/09, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cochice

Oh good call, I forgot they were active in this version.

[e] Just playing around with wolves, and they're consistently resulting in a ~20 dps loss. No time to wait for EP atm, since I'm already late for class.

Are you simulating mana? Even with them as cheap as they are, it could be that.

Cochice · 04/15/09, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Quaunaut

Are you simulating mana? Even with them as cheap as they are, it could be that.

No I'm not simming mana, my config is a few posts up.

Edit: I'm retarded. FS != Feral Spirts huuur