EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 72

Pitbuller · 04/17/09, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by syzygylock

Now I used the exact stats that I have and Exp came out to be 0.0. But hit is still high. I thought that we only need to get hit to 14% or (367) according to the ThinkTank and I have 422. Did I mis-read and understand it differently? Or did the simulator thinks that I need to get to the real 27% for dual wield?

spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0

14% + 0% < 17%

stassart · 04/17/09, 5:49 PM

Even if I use a negative value for expertise and it does not say that I am over the cap, I still get a negative weight for expertise.

EnhSim 1.6.8.

Configuration:

armor_debuff_major		20.0/20.0		//acid spit, expose armor, sunder armor
armor_debuff_minor		0.0/5.0		//faerie fire, sting, curse of recklessness
physical_vulnerability_debuff	0.0/4.0		//%, bloody frenzy, savage combat
melee_haste_buff		20.0/20.0	//%, improved icy talons, windfury totem
melee_crit_chance_buff		0.0/5.0		//%, leader of the pack, rampage
attack_power_buff_flat		688/688		//battle shout, blessing of might
attack_power_buff_multiplier	99.7/99.7	//BUFF UPTIME %, DISABLES UR, abominations might, trueshot aura, (unleashed rage)
spell_haste_buff		5.0/5.0		//%, wrath of air totem
spell_crit_chance_buff		5.0/5.0		//%, moonkin aura, elemental oath
spell_crit_chance_debuff	0.0/5.0		//%, improved scorch, winter's chill, imp.shadow bolt
spell_damage_debuff		0.0/13.0	//%, ebon plaugebearer, earth and moon, curse of the elements
spellpower_buff			244/280		//flametongue totem, totem of wrath
spell_hit_chance_debuff		3.0/3.0		//%, improved faerie fire, misery
haste_buff			3.0/3.0		//%, improved moonkin aura, swift retribution
percentage_damage_increase	0.0/3.0		//%, ferocious inspiration, sanctified retribution
crit_chance_debuff		0.0/3.0		//%, heart of the crusader, totem of wrath, master poisoner
stat_multiplier			10.0/10.0	//%, blessing of kings
stat_add_buff			52/52		//mark of the wild
agi_and_strength_buff		178/178		//strength of earth, horn of winter
intellect_buff			60/60		//arcane intellect, fel intelligence

replenishment			1		//{ 0 | 1 }
water_shield			0		//{ 0 | 1 }
mana_spring_totem		1		//{ 0 | 1 }
blessing_of_wisdom		1		//{ 0 | 1 }
judgement_of_wisdom		0		//{ 0 | 1 }



#############
#CONSUMABLES#
#############//remember that you can use guardian elixir only if you use elixir in the flask_elixir slot

flask_elixir			flask_of_endless_rage
//{ flask_of_relentless_assault | elixir_of_major_agility | fel_strength_elixir |
//  elixir_of_major_strength | elixir_of_demonslaying | elixir_of_the_mongoose |
//  elixir_of_mastery | gurus_elixir | elixir_of_mighty_agility | elixir_of_mighty_strength |
//  elixir_of_expertise | flask_of_endless_rage | - }

guardian_elixir			-
//{ elixir_of_draenic_wisdom | elixir_of_mighty_thoughts | - }

potion				haste_potion
//{ haste_potion | insane_strength_potion | heroic_potion | super_mana_potion |
//  runic_mana_potion | - }

food				fish_feast
//{ roasted_clefthoof | spice_hot_talbuk | ravager_dog | warp_burger | skullfish_soup | 
//  rhinolicious_wyrmsteak | fish_feast | - }



###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################


##########
#SHAMAN###
##########
race                            tauren	//{ orc | tauren | troll | draenei }
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          156.6
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         34.31	//%
oh_crit                         34.31
mh_hit                          7.81	//%, you give hit which shows on your character sheet
oh_hit                          7.81
mh_expertise_rating             135	//notice that these are given as rating
oh_expertise_rating             135
ap                              3701	//when changing this, remember to change the spellpower also(if have mental quickness talent)
melee_haste                     5.35	//%
armor_penetration               3.00	//%
str                             133
agi                             856
int                             527
spi                             153
spellpower                      1384	//you give the spellpower which shows on your character sheet
spell_crit                      26.48	//%
spell_hit                       9.76 	//%, you give spell hit which shows on your character sheet
spell_haste                     4.12	//%
max_mana                        11316
mp5                             0	//in combat

mh_imbue	 		windfury
oh_imbue	 		flametongue
//{ windfury | flametongue | flametongue_9 | frostbrand | - }

mh_enchant			berserking
oh_enchant			berserking
//{ mongoose | executioner | crusader | deathfrost | berserking | - }

mh_weapon			-
oh_weapon			-
//{ axe | - } used currently only for orc's racial bonus
//in the future, this might also be used for items similiar to Dragonstrike

trinket1			mirror_of_truth
trinket2			loathebs_shadow
//{ dragonspine_trophy | ashtongue_talisman |
//  madness_of_the_betrayer | hourglass_of_the_unraveller |
//  tsunami_talisman | shard_of_contempt |
//  berserkers_call | bloodlust_brooch |
//  abacus_of_violent_odds | badge_of_tenacity |
//  shadowsong_panther | blackened_naaru_sliver |
//  darkmoon_card_crusade | fury_of_the_five_flights |
//  grim_toll | loathebs_shadow | mirror_of_truth | 
//  the_skull_of_guldan | meteorite_whetstone | embrace_of_the_spider |
//  dying curse | illustration_of_the_dragon_soul |
//  sundial_of_the_exiled | forge_ember | incisor_fragment |
//  mark_of_the_war_prisoner | sphere_of_red_dragons_blood |
//  tome_of_arcane_phenomena | mark_of_norgannon | fezziks_pocketwatch |
//  thorny_rose_brooch | rune_of_finite_variation | bandits_insignia |
//  darkmoon_card_greatness | pendulum_of_telluric_currents |
//  vestige_of_haldor | twilight_serpent | thunder_capacitor |
//  tears_of_bitter_anguish | - }

totem				totem_of_the_elemental_plane
//{ stonebreakers_totem | totem_of_the_astral_winds | totem_of_splintering |
//  totem_of_ancestral_guidance | totem_of_the_void | skycall_totem | 
//  totem_of_hex | totem_of_dueling | totem_of_the_elemental_plane |
//  deadly_gladiators_totem_of_indomitability | hateful_gladiators_totem_of_indomitability |
//  savage_gladiators_totem_of_indomitability | deadly_gladiators_totem_of_survival |
//  hateful_gladiators_totem_of_survival | savage_gladiators_totem_of_survival | - }

set_bonus1			naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2			-
set_bonus3			-
//higher set bonuses include lower ones eg. naxx_melee_4 includes naxx_melee_2
//{ cyclone_harness | cataclysm_harness | desolation_battlegear |
//  skyshatter_harness_2 | skyshatter_harness_4 | skyshatter_regalia_2 |
//  skyshatter_regalia_4 | naxx_melee_2 | naxx_melee_4 | gladiators_earthshaker |
//  naxx_nuker_2 | naxx_nuker_4 | worldbreaker_battlegear_2 | worldbreaker_battlegear_4 | - }

metagem				relentless_earthsiege_diamond
//{ relentless_earthstorm_diamond | thundering_skyfire_diamond | 
//  chaotic_skyfire_diamond | chaotic_skyflare_diamond |
//  ember_skyflare_diamond | relentless_earthsiege_diamond | - }

gloves_enchant			-
//{ hyperspeed_accelerators | hound_mounted_pyro_rocket }
cloak_enchant			-
//{ lightweave_embroidery | swordguard_embroidery }

//you can't use same type of glyph in multiple slots
glyph_major1			stormstrike
glyph_major2			lightning_shield
glyph_major3			windfury_weapon
//{ lightning_shield | flametongue_weapon | lightning_bolt |
//  windfury_weapon | stormstrike | earth_shock | lava | lava_lash |
//  water_mastery | feral_spirit | - }

glyph_minor1			-
glyph_minor2			-
glyph_minor3			-



#########
#TALENTS#
#########
ancestral_knowledge		2/5	//ENHANCEMENT
improved_shields		1/3
mental_dexterity		3/3
shamanistic_focus		1/1
flurry				5/5
elemental_weapons		3/3
unleashed_rage			3/3
weapon_mastery			3/3
dual_wield_specialization	3/3
mental_quickness		3/3
improved_stormstrike		2/2
static_shock			3/3
maelstrom_weapon		5/5

convection			0/5	//ELEMENTAL
concussion			5/5
call_of_flame			3/3
elemental_devastation		3/3
reverberation			0/5
elemental_focus			0/1
elemental_fury			5/5
call_of_thunder			0/1
unrelenting_storm		0/3
elemental_precision		0/3
lightning_mastery		0/5
elemental_oath			0/2
lightning_overload		0/5
lava_flows			0/3
storm_earth_and_fire		0/3
shamanism			0/5

Result:

EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      4774.38
ap                        1.00      0.46      4865.70        91.32
crit rating               2.20      1.00      4804.50        30.12
hit rating                3.93      1.79      4828.20        53.82
expertise rating          -2.92     -1.33     4752.54        -21.84
haste rating              2.00      0.91      4801.76        27.38
armor penetration rating  1.45      0.66      4794.30        19.92
spellpower                1.05      0.48      4846.61        72.23
mh dps                    5.58      2.55      4793.49        19.11
oh dps                    3.06      1.40      4784.85        10.47
strength                  1.10      
agility                   1.93      
intelligence              1.63      
spirit                    -0.00     -0.00     4774.33        -0.06
mana                      0.01      0.01      4775.91        1.53
mp5                       0.31      0.14      4777.17        2.79

If the negative sign was removed from expertise I could see it being correct.

syzygylock · 04/17/09, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by Pitbuller

spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0

14% + 0% < 17%

Ah, I see now. Thanks. I read the EnhWiki and it said to not ever go over the cap, so when EnhSimGui gave me the "EP hit goes past cap with spells." or "MH and OH xpertise are over cap...", I thought that I will have to lower the numbers manually to match it.

I basically just use with ShockAndAwe output and ignore the warnings and it seems to give me the right values for hit. Please confirm that this is how it suppose to be.

Vesham · 04/17/09, 9:19 PM

Check your Buffs section. By what you posted, I noticed you have 0/3.0% on spell hit chance given by misery. That would throw the calculated Hit far below hit cap leading to your high DEP.

Rouncer · 04/17/09, 9:51 PM

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> 116% Armor Pen only giving 66%!?!?!?!

Okay, here is a farily technical explanation we put together for how armor pen works.

We didn’t want Armor Penetration Rating to be too powerful against low armor targets, like it had been in BC. We also didn’t want Armor Penetration Rating to be too powerful against high armor targets.

So, we decided on a system where there is a cap on how much armor the Armor Penetration Rating can be applied to. So, the first X armor on the target is reduced by the percentage listed in the Armor Penetration Rating tooltip, and all armor past that X is unaffected. Another way of understanding that is we multiply the percentage in the tooltip times the minimum of the two values: the cap, and the amount of armor on the target after all other modifiers.

Computing the cap is a little tricky unless you are already familiar with how World of Warcraft armor works. There is an armor constant we’ll call C. C is derived as follows (in some pseudocode):

If (level<60)
C=400+85*targetlevel
Else
C=400+85*targetlevel+4.5*85*(targetlevel-59);

For a level 80 target, C=15232.5. For a level 83, C=16635.

The cap for Armor Penetration then is: (armor + C)/3.

A level 80 warrior creature has 9729 armor. C=15232.5. So, the cap is (9729+15232.5)/3=8320.5. Let’s say a player has 30% armor penetration from armor penetration rating and no other modifiers that complicate the calculation (talents, Battle Stance, Sunder Armor, etc.). The game chooses the minimum of 8320.5 and 9729, so 8320.5. That is multiplied by 30% = 2496.15, and so that much armor is ignored. The effective armor on the target is 7232.85 (9729-2496.15). From a player point of view, the armor penetration rating didn’t ignore the full 30%, but instead ignored 25.66%. (85.5% as effective as expected).

These equations should help you be able to test and verify that Armor Penetration Rating is working correctly and as we designed. The tooltip is not actually inaccurate, as it states: “Enemy armor reduced by up to 30.00%.” That "up to" is key.

Please be sure to test without any other effects which modify the armor calculation (Battle Stance, Sunder Armor, Mace Specialization, etc.) as they may involve other systems that add additional complexity to the calculation.

Malan · 04/17/09, 11:46 PM

Good grief. Why didn't they just modify the rating values to reflect that.

jasonf · 04/18/09, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

Good grief. Why didn't they just modify the rating values to reflect that.

Because of the different variables that affect how much armor its going to reduce.

Pashaman · 04/18/09, 6:49 AM

EDIT: Thanks wolflord!

Wolflord · 04/18/09, 7:43 AM

Melee and Spell haste are entered as percentages, not as ratings. Youve input 246% haste.

Rouncer · 04/18/09, 11:05 AM

Found a bug with the Sim. It's not giving the 25% increased damage when the offhand is imbued with Flametongue (either that or it is giving it no matter what the offhand is imbued with).

Kalioshas · 04/18/09, 12:10 PM

This is what I see when I run EnhSim

Set bonus  not found.
Set bonus  not found.
Set bonus  not found.
Enchant  not found.
Enchant  not found.
melee_haste not found from config.
spell_haste not found from config.
Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 1.09364% (28.6884 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

config:

#################	//comment marks are # and //
##ENHSIM CONFIG##	//if you write comments on the same line with config line
#################	//leave at least one space between the comment and value


//IMPORTANT: Be careful when inputting your stats. Read is the value rating or percent etc. Read the comments.
//You always input what you see on your character sheet/paper doll.

simulation_time			10000 	//in hours, you can also input decimals ex. 0.05
simulation_time_combatlog	300	//in minutes
combat_length			6	//in minutes
report_count			80 	//how many times the progress is reported during the simulation
threads				2	//number of threads to use, combatlogging always uses 1 thread
min_lag				60	//in milliseconds, lag means ping + player reaction time
max_lag				250	//1000 ms = 1s
simulate_mana			0	//{ 0 | 1 } if disabled, increases speed, but doesn't take mana limitations into account



########### //To understand the EP ranges you have to understand how EP values are calculated. 
#EP RANGES# //For example, to calculate EP value of crit rating, first I simulate the normal "baseline" dps.
########### //Then I simulate dps with increased crit rating. I take the dps difference and divide it by the
//increased crit rating to get dps/crit rating value. EP range means how much crit rating did I increase.

//Watch the expertise and hit caps. For example if expertise goes over the cap resulting from too high EP
//range, the EP value will go lower than it should be. On the other hand, if you give too low EP ranges,
//you won't get accurate results. Best scenario is low EP ranges and high simulation time.

//If hit/spellhit or expertise is already over the cap, test will be skipped. Although you can
//give negative ep range to see how much EP is hit/expertise worth to have. To skip a test, use 0 as range.

//Which stat is used as baseline stat, meaning it gets EP value of 1. This is important when calculating EP values.
ep_precision			2 //how many digits there are in ep value?
ep_base_stat			ap //{ ap | sp }
ep_ap 				200
ep_crit_rating 			30
ep_hit_rating 			30
ep_expertise 			4 //not rating
ep_haste_rating 		30
ep_armor_penetration_rating 	30
ep_spellpower 			150
ep_dps				7.5
ep_mana				250
ep_spirit			150
ep_mp5				20



###################
#ROTATION AND MISC#
###################
mh_auto_attack			1	//{ 0 | 1 }
oh_auto_attack			1	//{ 0 | 1 }
wait_ss_with_wf_cd		0.00	//max seconds to wait to SS, if wf cd is still up
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd	0	//{ 0 | 1 } this is noted only if you have dual wf
bloodlust_casters		1	//{ 0 | 1 }
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets	1	//{ 0 | 1 }
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left	15.0	//cast LvB only if ED duration x or less seconds left
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left	4	//maximum Flame Shock dot ticks left to cast LvB
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active	1	//{ 0 | 1 }
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left	0	//maximum Flame Shock dot ticks left to cast Flame Shock
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left	0	//maximum Lightning Shield charges left to cast LS
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left	700	//maximum mana left to cast SR
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left	3000	//maximum mana left to use mana potion


//set the rotation priority
//SW = spirit wolves
//SS = stormstrike
//FS = flame shock
//ES = earth shock
//ES_SS = earth shock only if there are stormstrike charges
//Frost = frost shock
//MW5_LB = maelstrom weapon cast lightning bolt, min 5 charges
//MW3_CL = maelstrom weapon cast chain lightning, min 3 charges
//generic form: MWx_YY, x is 1-5 and YY is either LB or CL
//LS = lightning shield
//LL = lava lash
//LB = lightning bolt
//CL = chain lighting
//LVB = lava burst
//ST = searing totem
//MT = magma totem
//SR = shamanistic rage
rotation_priority_count		9
rotation_priority1            SW
rotation_priority2		MW5_LB
rotation_priority3		ES_SS
rotation_priority4		SS
rotation_priority5		ES
rotation_priority6		MT
rotation_priority7		LL
rotation_priority8		LS
rotation_priority9		SR



##########
#BOSS#####
##########
miss				8.00	//%
dodge				6.50	//%
glancing			24.00	//%
armor				10645	
spell_miss			17.00	//%

nature_resistance		0	//effective resistances
fire_resistance			0
frost_resistance		0
arcane_resistance		0
shadow_resistance		0



######### //default value after the buff in comment
#BUFFS### //put to 0 if you dont use that buff
#########
armor_debuff_major        20.0/20.0		//acid spit, expose armor, sunder armor
armor_debuff_minor        5.0/5.0		//faerie fire, sting, curse of recklessness
physical_vulnerability_debuff	0.0/4.0		//%, bloody frenzy, savage combat
melee_haste_buff		20.0/20.0	//%, improved icy talons, windfury totem
melee_crit_chance_buff		5.0/5.0		//%, leader of the pack, rampage
attack_power_buff_flat		688/688		//battle shout, blessing of might
attack_power_buff_multiplier	99.7/99.7	//BUFF UPTIME %, DISABLES UR, abominations might, trueshot aura, (unleashed rage)
spell_haste_buff		5.0/5.0		//%, wrath of air totem
spell_crit_chance_buff		5.0/5.0		//%, moonkin aura, elemental oath
spell_crit_chance_debuff	5.0/5.0		//%, improved scorch, winter's chill, imp.shadow bolt
spell_damage_debuff		13.0/13.0	//%, ebon plaugebearer, earth and moon, curse of the elements
spellpower_buff			280/280		//flametongue totem, totem of wrath
spell_hit_chance_debuff		3.0/3.0		//%, improved faerie fire, misery
haste_buff			3.0/3.0		//%, improved moonkin aura, swift retribution
percentage_damage_increase	3.0/3.0		//%, ferocious inspiration, sanctified retribution
crit_chance_debuff		3.0/3.0		//%, heart of the crusader, totem of wrath, master poisoner
stat_multiplier			10.0/10.0	//%, blessing of kings
stat_add_buff			52/52		//mark of the wild
agi_and_strength_buff		178/178		//strength of earth, horn of winter
intellect_buff			60/60		//arcane intellect, fel intelligence

replenishment			1		//{ 0 | 1 }
water_shield			0		//{ 0 | 1 }
mana_spring_totem		1		//{ 0 | 1 }
blessing_of_wisdom		1		//{ 0 | 1 }
judgement_of_wisdom		1		//{ 0 | 1 }



#############
#CONSUMABLES#
#############//remember that you can use guardian elixir only if you use elixir in the flask_elixir slot

flask_elixir			flask_of_endless_rage
//{ flask_of_relentless_assault | elixir_of_major_agility | fel_strength_elixir |
//  elixir_of_major_strength | elixir_of_demonslaying | elixir_of_the_mongoose |
//  elixir_of_mastery | gurus_elixir | elixir_of_mighty_agility | elixir_of_mighty_strength |
//  elixir_of_expertise | flask_of_endless_rage | - }

guardian_elixir			-
//{ elixir_of_draenic_wisdom | elixir_of_mighty_thoughts | - }

potion				haste_potion
//{ haste_potion | insane_strength_potion | heroic_potion | super_mana_potion |
//  runic_mana_potion | - }

food				fish_feast
//{ roasted_clefthoof | spice_hot_talbuk | ravager_dog | warp_burger | skullfish_soup | 
//  rhinolicious_wyrmsteak | fish_feast | - }



###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

###############################
## ShockAndAwe EnhSim Export ##
###############################
race                 tauren
mh_speed             2.60
oh_speed             2.50
mh_dps               171.3
oh_dps               156.6
mh_crit              31.76
oh_crit              31.76
mh_hit               11.16
oh_hit               11.16
mh_expertise_rating  159.00
oh_expertise_rating  159.00
ap                   3806
haste                5.39
armor_penetration    2.52
str                  141
agi                  812
int                  462
spi                  161
spellpower           1141
spell_crit           24.07
spell_hit            13.95
max_mana             11046
mp5                  0
mh_imbue             windfury
oh_imbue             flametongue

mh_enchant           berserking
mh_weapon            -
oh_enchant           berserking
oh_weapon            -

trinket1             mark_of_norgannon
trinket2             fury_of_the_five_flights

totem                totem_of_dueling
set_bonus            naxx_melee_4
metagem              chaotic_skyflare_diamond

glyph_major1         stormstrike
glyph_major2         lightning_shield
glyph_major3         flametongue_weapon

glyph_minor1         - ## no useful glyphs current implemented in the sim
glyph_minor2         - ## no useful glyphs current implemented in the sim
glyph_minor3         - ## no useful glyphs current implemented in the sim


#############
## Talents ##
#############
ancestral_knowledge       2/5
improved_shields          3/3
mental_dexterity          3/3
shamanistic_focus         1/1
flurry                    5/5
elemental_weapons         3/3
unleashed_rage            3/3
weapon_mastery            3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness          3/3
improved_stormstrike      0/2
static_shock              3/3
maelstrom_weapon          5/5
convection                0/5
concussion                5/5
call_of_flame             3/3
elemental_devastation     3/3
reverberation             2/5
elemental_focus           0/1
elemental_fury            5/5
call_of_thunder           0/1
unrelenting_storm         0/3
elemental_precision       0/3
lightning_mastery         0/5
elemental_oath            0/2
lightning_overload        0/2
lava_flows                0/1
storm_earth_and_fire      0/3
shamanism                 0/3

Whats wrong with set bonus/haste/enchants?

Njald · 04/18/09, 1:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kalioshas

This is what I see when I run EnhSim
1
Whats wrong with set bonus/haste/enchants?

You probably did what I did, exported from ShockAndAwe or you are using an old config. If you download latest enhsim and look at the config file and compared with what you posted you will note that melee_haste and spell_haste is now different stats in config and cloak and glove enchant are both added to the new config.

Also, setbonus is now divided into setbonus1, setbonus2,setbonus3.

If you are unsure on how to properly configurate the new config you should download that file again and save a backup and go over the config and the backup line for line and see the difference.

Triper · 04/18/09, 2:03 PM

Quick bug report:

If you try to sim any of the new glyphs and you don't have ES_SS in your rotation EnhSim will throw an error and close. (At least this is the only way I could get it (the bug) to stop and start.)

This config works:

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         150
max_lag                         250
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   5
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         0
ep_spirit                       0
ep_mp5                          0

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         9
rotation_priority1              SW
rotation_priority2              MW4_LB
rotation_priority3              ES_SS
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              MT
rotation_priority7              LL
rotation_priority8              LS
rotation_priority9              SR

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20/20
armor_debuff_minor              5/5
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4/4
melee_haste_buff                20/20
melee_crit_chance_buff          5/5
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/?
spell_haste_buff                5/5
spell_crit_chance_buff          5/5
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5/5
spell_damage_debuff             13/13
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3/3
haste_buff                      3/3
percentage_damage_increase      3/3
crit_chance_debuff              3/3
stat_multiplier                 10/10
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.60
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          178.8
mh_crit                         33.96
oh_crit                         33.96
mh_hit                          10.67
oh_hit                          10.67
mh_expertise_rating             143.00
oh_expertise_rating             143.00
ap                              3987
melee_haste                     8.96
armor_penetration               3.00
str                             131
agi                             852
int                             536
spi                             155
spellpower                      1153
spell_crit                      26.23
spell_hit                       13.34
spell_haste                     8.96
max_mana                        12156
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        grim_toll
trinket2                        -

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    stormstrike
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    feral_spirit

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

And this one will not:

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         150
max_lag                         250
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   5
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         0
ep_spirit                       0
ep_mp5                          0

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              SW
rotation_priority2              MW4_LB
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              ES
rotation_priority5              MT
rotation_priority6              LL
rotation_priority7              LS
rotation_priority8              SR

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20/20
armor_debuff_minor              5/5
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4/4
melee_haste_buff                20/20
melee_crit_chance_buff          5/5
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/?
spell_haste_buff                5/5
spell_crit_chance_buff          5/5
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5/5
spell_damage_debuff             13/13
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3/3
haste_buff                      3/3
percentage_damage_increase      3/3
crit_chance_debuff              3/3
stat_multiplier                 10/10
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               0
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.60
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          178.8
mh_crit                         33.96
oh_crit                         33.96
mh_hit                          10.67
oh_hit                          10.67
mh_expertise_rating             143.00
oh_expertise_rating             143.00
ap                              3987
melee_haste                     8.96
armor_penetration               3.00
str                             131
agi                             852
int                             536
spi                             155
spellpower                      1153
spell_crit                      26.23
spell_hit                       13.34
spell_haste                     8.96
max_mana                        12156
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        grim_toll
trinket2                        -

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    stormstrike
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    feral_spirit

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Levva · 04/18/09, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Njald

You probably did what I did, exported from ShockAndAwe or you are using an old config. If you download latest enhsim and look at the config file and compared with what you posted you will note that melee_haste and spell_haste is now different stats in config and cloak and glove enchant are both added to the new config.

Also, setbonus is now divided into setbonus1, setbonus2,setbonus3.

If you are unsure on how to properly configurate the new config you should download that file again and save a backup and go over the config and the backup line for line and see the difference.

If you export from a pre patch 3.1 version of ShockAndAwe then you aren't going to get good results. Current version is v4.22 you need to upgrade if you want to export to EnhSim v1.6.5 or above.

Levva · 04/18/09, 7:56 PM

Using v1.6.8 I noted I had input melee crit of 28.79% and spell crit of 23.54%, I ran an output with 20k hours and was getting

MH:
miss                3189446        7.82%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            9779619        23.99%
hit                 16043465       39.35%
crit                11761125       28.84%

OH:
miss                3207964        7.87%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            9763460        23.95%
hit                 16050803       39.37%
crit                11751428       28.82%

ie: pretty much spot on what I was expecting to see. However for Windfury and Stormstrike I'm seeing in the same output.txt file...

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.82%
procs/swings        15.72%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 10362004       67.98%
crit                4880616        32.02%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 5285484        68.47%
crit                2433985        31.53%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 5271498        68.29%
crit                2447971        31.71%

ie: a crit rate that's 3%-3.5% higher than white crit rate. I'm struggling to think of anything that causes yellow crit rate to be 3%-3.5% higher than white crit rate. I am missing something or is this a bug?

Just in case the RNG was causing an issue I ran the sim for 200k hours (a bit longer than average) and got...

MH:
miss                31892714       7.82%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            97811302       23.99%
hit                 160409524      39.34%
crit                117629549      28.85%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          16.83%
procs/swings        15.72%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 103628729      67.98%
crit                48822409       32.02%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 52860278       68.48%
crit                24330976       31.52%

OH:
miss                32088207       7.87%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            97604680       23.94%
hit                 160528093      39.37%
crit                117522109      28.82%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 52729234       68.31%
crit                24462020       31.69%

ie: pretty much identical results. Slightly narrow crit range though 2.75%-3.25%, Can anyone explain why WF & SS crits would average out over such a long time at 2.75-3.25% above entered melee crit rate.

config file was :

simulation_time                 200000
simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         100
max_lag                         200
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         9
rotation_priority1              SW
rotation_priority2              SR
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              ES_SS
rotation_priority5              SS
rotation_priority6              ES
rotation_priority7              LL
rotation_priority8              MT
rotation_priority9              LS

miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        24.00
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          0/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 0/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   0/52
agi_and_strength_buff           0/178
intellect_buff                  0/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          haste_potion
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.5
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          156.6
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         28.79
oh_crit                         28.79
mh_hit                          12.11
oh_hit                          12.11
mh_expertise_rating             147
oh_expertise_rating             147
ap                              3844
melee_haste                     7.93
armor_penetration               3.17
str                             131
agi                             804
int                             520
spi                             155
spellpower                      1153
spell_crit                      23.54
spell_hit                       15.13
spell_haste                     6.10
max_mana                        11916
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        40256
trinket2                        40684

totem                           40322

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41398

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    flametongue_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            1/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Edit: Lava Lash crits were similarly over inflated by 3%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 6651807        68.10%
crit                3116463        31.90%

Densor · 04/18/09, 8:50 PM

Should Elemental Devastation be upping your crit % on all attacks? If you're only getting slightly above the input crit while specced for ED and using a regular rotation, I'd say something was wrong somewhere. Unless ED is barely making up for the crit depression due to your low spell crit? Is it possible that yellow attacks aren't being affected by the crit depression?

Rouncer · 04/18/09, 9:15 PM

Wouldn't the crit inflation be due to the yellow attacks being hit capped while the regular white hits still have a significant miss percentage?

Levva · 04/18/09, 9:27 PM

Interesting thought. The output was showing ED uptime of 53.23% which I suppose averaged should give 9% melee crit 53.23% of the time ie: 4.79% additional melee crit on average.

If that is the issue something is still a bit screwy. Why is white crits perfectly on input melee crit are they not benefiting from ED? Is it that SS, WF, LL all benefit from ED? If so why is the additional crit lower than expected given the uptime?

I'm trying to understand the model so I can work out why my Rawr.Enhance model differs. If at the same time I provoke investigations into either model to ensure accuracy that can only be good in the long run. I am in no way trying to suggest EnhSim is wrong or Rawr is better (at present it clearly isn't as I'd missed the ED uptime), all I'm trying to do is get the two models to agree or at least understand why they don't.

Rouncer · 04/18/09, 10:15 PM

I think you need to look at the one roll melee table information to find the answer. There is a lot of info in the Rogue forums on it and I don't really have a form grasp on how they work but I do believe that Tukez incorporated all their findings into the Sim.

tukez · 04/19/09, 6:18 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

Interesting thought. The output was showing ED uptime of 53.23% which I suppose averaged should give 9% melee crit 53.23% of the time ie: 4.79% additional melee crit on average.

If that is the issue something is still a bit screwy. Why is white crits perfectly on input melee crit are they not benefiting from ED? Is it that SS, WF, LL all benefit from ED? If so why is the additional crit lower than expected given the uptime?

I'm trying to understand the model so I can work out why my Rawr.Enhance model differs. If at the same time I provoke investigations into either model to ensure accuracy that can only be good in the long run. I am in no way trying to suggest EnhSim is wrong or Rawr is better (at present it clearly isn't as I'd missed the ED uptime), all I'm trying to do is get the two models to agree or at least understand why they don't.

I didn't do any calculations, but white attacks get 4.8% crit depression, which would even out the ED bonus. Specials get 1.8% crit depression. Take those into account and I think the results are ok.

It was kind of concluded, that 4.8% crit depression for white attacks is valid, but I didn't see any final conclusion for yellow attacks.

Levva · 04/19/09, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by tukez

I didn't do any calculations, but white attacks get 4.8% crit depression, which would even out the ED bonus. Specials get 1.8% crit depression. Take those into account and I think the results are ok.

It was kind of concluded, that 4.8% crit depression for white attacks is valid, but I didn't see any final conclusion for yellow attacks.

Many thanks that fixed it. I'd never heard of the crit depression before to be honest. I've added that to the Rawr.Enhance model now though. It's weird just how many little fiddly bits go into modelling dps. However I'm pleased that as I learn more and add more and more tweaks the figures are coming closer and closer together.

Edit : another observation I noted I am getting the following output

MH:
miss                3177896        7.85%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            9717973        24.01%
hit                 15909825       39.31%
crit                11662521       28.82%

OH:
miss                3183060        7.87%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            9690766        23.95%
hit                 15933421       39.37%
crit                11660968       28.82%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               829.92    26.15%    67.45

elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h

ie: to all intents and purposes MH & OH are doing same dps - Duel wielding Angry Dreads. Shouldn't the off-hand suffer a 50% damage penalty? Or is that not what the output.txt file is showing at this stage?

Also if I may, is it possible to determine the white dps figure from the total MH+OH damage? Adding up what I see I get 74,575,474 damage however I can't work out if knowing that plus knowing sim was run for 20,000 hours with 6 min combat time if its possible to arrive at the white dps figure. Again I'm looking to sanity check my figures from Rawr which are showing less white dps ie: I'm getting 746.68 white dps vs EnhSim 829.92 dps with identical inputs. So I must be doing something wrong. If I could work out how you convert total dmg to dps it would help.

Rouncer · 04/19/09, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Levva

ie: to all intents and purposes MH & OH are doing same dps - Duel wielding Angry Dreads. Shouldn't the off-hand suffer a 50% damage penalty? Or is that not what the output.txt file is showing at this stage?

I don't think those are damage figures, pretty sure those are just a count of the number of events for each state.

Ruga · 04/19/09, 1:38 PM

Heya,

I'm using enhSim 1.6.8 with the following config:

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              SW
rotation_priority5              LL
rotation_priority6              SR
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8              LS

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20/20
armor_debuff_minor              5/5
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.60
oh_speed                        2.50
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         31.97
oh_crit                         31.97
mh_hit                          11.22
oh_hit                          11.22
mh_expertise_rating             144.00
oh_expertise_rating             144.00
ap                              3850
melee_haste                     8.41
armor_penetration               2.52
str                             131
agi                             1053
int                             517
spi                             155
spellpower                      1155
spell_crit                      21.72
spell_hit                       14.03
spell_haste                     6.47
max_mana                        11871
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        darkmoon_card_greatness
trinket2                        fury_of_the_five_flights

totem                           totem_of_hex

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    lava_lash
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             5/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            0/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Now, when ever I am trying to calculate the new EP values, I get an error at the armor penetration calculation (Enhancement Shaman Simulator has stopped working and has been stopped.).

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 2.17364% (57.0189 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit :<

Vlyxnol · 04/19/09, 5:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ruga

Heya,

I'm using enhSim 1.6.8 with the following config:

Now, when ever I am trying to calculate the new EP values, I get an error at the armor penetration calculation (Enhancement Shaman Simulator has stopped working and has been stopped.).

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 2.17364% (57.0189 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit :<

I am also having the same issue and it just started yesterday when i got 2pc t8 and I re-input my stats. I've tried to change some stuff to get the error to go away and i can't. I have windows XP Pro. Anyone see an obvious problem with my config?

Also I have a few other questions about enhsim.
1. I thought Boss Armor changed to over 13k, did that change again some where along the lines back to 10k?
2. Also my sims recently are putting CL + LB damage about 30dps higher than just LB alone. Is anyone else seeing a similar trend?
3. Another thing is I think their is a bug with the glove enchant, "Hyperspeed Accelerators" I give myself the enchant in the sim and it doesn't provide any additional dps vs re-simming w/o it. Again anyone else having this issue?
4. Last but not least, and i apologize if this is a bit much in 1 post but, I've noticed that as our haste % pushes our MH closer to the WF chasm its EP diminishes quite a bit for about another 130ish haste rating down to about 1.5-1.8. And it doesn't rise above 2.0 again until you push past this point. So my question is are you guys planning on pushing past it and sacrificing other stats in the interim or are you gemming AP and not going below the WF chasm period?


			
simulation_time                 10000

simulation_time_combatlog       300

combat_length                   5

report_count                    80

threads                         2

min_lag                         100

max_lag                         150

simulate_mana                   0



ep_precision                    2

ep_base_stat                    ap

ep_ap                           200

ep_crit_rating                  64

ep_hit_rating                   64

ep_expertise                    4

ep_haste_rating                 64

ep_armor_penetration_rating     64

ep_spellpower                   150

ep_dps                          7.5

ep_mana                         0

ep_spirit                       0

ep_mp5                          0



mh_auto_attack                  1

oh_auto_attack                  1

wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00

cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0

bloodlust_casters               1

sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0

cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0

cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4

cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      0

cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0

cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0

cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       1000

use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    500



rotation_priority_count         9

rotation_priority1              SR

rotation_priority2              SW

rotation_priority3              MW4_CL

rotation_priority4              MW4_LB

rotation_priority5              SS

rotation_priority6              MT

rotation_priority7              ES

rotation_priority8              LL

rotation_priority9              LS



miss                            8.0

dodge                           6.5

glancing                        24.0

armor                           13083

spell_miss                      17.0

nature_resistance               0

fire_resistance                 0

frost_resistance                0

arcane_resistance               0

shadow_resistance               0



armor_debuff_major              20/20

armor_debuff_minor              5/5

physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/2.0

melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0

melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0

attack_power_buff_flat          688/688

attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7

spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0

spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0

spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0

spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0

spellpower_buff                 280/280

spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0

haste_buff                      3.0/3.0

percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0

crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0

stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0

stat_add_buff                   52/52

agi_and_strength_buff           178/178

intellect_buff                  60/60



replenishment                   1

water_shield                    0

mana_spring_totem               0

blessing_of_wisdom              1

judgement_of_wisdom             1



flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage

guardian_elixir                 -

potion                          haste_potion

food                            fish_feast



###############################################################################

### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###

### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###

###############################################################################



race                            troll

mh_speed                        2.6

oh_speed                        2.5

mh_dps                          171.4

oh_dps                          156.6

mh_crit                         30.20

oh_crit                         30.20

mh_hit                          11.19

oh_hit                          11.19

mh_expertise_rating             142

oh_expertise_rating             142

ap                              3887

melee_haste                     10.82

armor_penetration               5.52

str                             131

agi                             891

int                             488

spi                             154

spellpower                      1168

spell_crit                      21.72

spell_hit                       14.00

spell_haste                     8.33

max_mana                        11076

mp5                             0



mh_imbue                        windfury

oh_imbue                        flametongue



mh_enchant                      berserking

oh_enchant                      berserking



mh_weapon                       -

oh_weapon                       -



trinket1                        darkmoon_card_greatness

trinket2                        grim_toll



totem                           deadly_gladiators_totem_of_indomitability



set_bonus1                      worldbreaker_battlegear_2

set_bonus2                      naxx_melee_2

set_bonus3                      -



metagem                         relentless_earthstorm_diamond



gloves_enchant                  hyperspeed_accelerators

cloak_enchant                   -



glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon

glyph_major2                    stormstrike

glyph_major3                    shocking



glyph_minor1                    -

glyph_minor2                    -

glyph_minor3                    -



ancestral_knowledge             2/5

improved_shields                1/3

mental_dexterity                3/3

shamanistic_focus               1/1

flurry                          5/5

elemental_weapons               3/3

unleashed_rage                  3/3

weapon_mastery                  3/3

dual_wield_specialization       3/3

mental_quickness                3/3

improved_stormstrike            2/2

static_shock                    3/3

maelstrom_weapon                5/5



convection                      0/5

concussion                      5/5

call_of_flame                   3/3

elemental_devastation           3/3

reverberation                   0/5

elemental_focus                 0/1

elemental_fury                  5/5

call_of_thunder                 0/1

unrelenting_storm               0/3

elemental_precision             0/3

lightning_mastery               0/5

elemental_oath                  0/2

lightning_overload              0/5

lava_flows                      0/3

storm_earth_and_fire            0/3

shamanism                       0/5

Levva · 04/19/09, 8:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rounced

I don't think those are damage figures, pretty sure those are just a count of the number of events for each state.

Hmmm, bugger. I wonder how I can figure how why the models differ then. White DPS should be one of the easier ones.