EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 84

OnosKT · 05/25/09, 4:56 PM

If you want to respect licenses note WinRAR is not free, so I suggest either 7Zip or WinAce (both should work fine and are free from what i remember)

Torodo · 05/25/09, 11:58 PM

A few posts ago I mentioned a problem with 1.7.0 EnhSim's armor penetration calculation.

I dug a little deeper and extracted the armor penetration calculations and compared them with the formulas posted by Ghost Crawler (Blizzard Lead Designer) on the WoW damage Dealer forums.

EnhSim is overcomputing the damage reduction due to armor by around 17%. However, I think the code is improperly throwing away the debuff computation during the simulation step and only using player armor penetration. The author should revist this part of the code to make confirm this.

Here are some sample results for 20% armor debuff (sunder armor), assuming the debuff properly makes it into the calculateArmor and calculateDamage functions, and a range of armor penetration values of 0 to 300

The factors multiply the unmitigated melee damage to get the actual melee damage.

ArPen EnhSim GC

0 0.556 0.625

100 0.576 0.645

200 0.599 0.666

300 0.623 0.688

Here is the code so interested parties can double check the computation.

Option explicit
Dim arp, acdebuff, acmax, accap, acred, gc_reduction

'*** sim constants
const ARMOR_PENETRATION_RATING_TO_ARMOR_PENETRATION = 0.0008119361
const ATTACKER_LEVEL = 83

'*** warrior boss armor
Dim armor_base_ : armor_base_ = 400.0 + 85.0 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL + 4.5 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL - 59.0))
Dim armor_, damage_reduction_

'*** sunder armor debuff
'*** as near as I can tell, armor debuffs are thrown away during simulation phase and repalced by armor_base_ * armor_penetration_
'*** but I will add it here anyways in case I am wrong
Dim armor_debuff_ : armor_debuff_ = 0.2

For arp = 0 To 300 Step 10
    '*** enhsim 1.7 computation
    armor_ = armor_base_ * (1.0 - armor_debuff_) * (1.0 - arp * ARMOR_PENETRATION_RATING_TO_ARMOR_PENETRATION)
    damage_reduction_ = 1.0 - (armor_ / (armor_ + 400.0 + 85.0 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL + 4.5 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL - 59.0))))

    '*** compute GC posted reduction

    '*** apply mob debuffs multiplcatively
    acdebuff = armor_base_ * (1.0 - armor_debuff_)

    '*** compute max armor for cap calc
    acmax = 400.0 + 85.0 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL + 4.5 * (ATTACKER_LEVEL - 59.0))

    '*** cap is an average of max and debuffed armor
    accap = (armor_base_ + acdebuff) / 3.0

    '*** if cap is over debuffed armor then use debuffed armor
    if (accap > acdebuff) Then accap = acdebuff

    '*** apply armor penetration additively to the armor cap to get armor reduction
    acred = accap * arp * ARMOR_PENETRATION_RATING_TO_ARMOR_PENETRATION

    '*** damage reduction is an inverse function of reduction
    gc_reduction = acmax / (acmax + accap - acred)

    MsgBox arp & "=" & damage_reduction_ & "," & gc_reduction
Next

Octanus · 05/26/09, 10:44 AM

I have successfully downloaded EnhSim1.7.0.rar, added my stats, but when I try to run the Enhsim.exe application it comes up with an error and shuts down.

Am I doing anything wrong?

Ragsie · 05/26/09, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

A Java replacement would run on Windows, Macs & Linux and was discussed the message immediately above yours.

It's nice to see this is underway after so long.

Panamah · 05/26/09, 1:19 PM

Originally Posted by Octanus

I have successfully downloaded EnhSim1.7.0.rar, added my stats, but when I try to run the Enhsim.exe application it comes up with an error and shuts down.

Am I doing anything wrong?

I get crashes too, it happens when I change my glyphs. I think there's only a couple it doesn't crash on.

Ciege · 05/26/09, 9:18 PM

Gonna make it simple. Opens fine, i can input my data no problem, but i cant run any of the sims, i get tons of errors. So, heres the errors:

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception: The system cannot find the file specified
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(String fileName, String arguments)
   at enhsimgui.MainForm.button1_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3082 (QFE.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
enhsimgui
    Assembly Version: 1.0.3401.16414
    Win32 Version: 
    CodeBase: file:///F:/Enhance%20Sim/enhsimgui.exe
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msvcm90
    Assembly Version: 9.0.21022.8
    Win32 Version: 9.00.21022.8
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.VC90.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.21022.8_x-ww_d08d0375/msvcm90.dll
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System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3082 (QFE.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///E:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

OnosKT · 05/26/09, 11:37 PM

Point it to the right executable

Shinwei · 05/27/09, 7:06 PM

Haven't been able to figure this one out. How come whenever I run EnhSim it tells me that my white DPS is below 10. That seems very strange. If I turn off all of my rotation and tell it to only white attack, I get a theoretical DPS number of around 400. I'm pretty sure I do more than 400 DPS just white-attacking, what's going on?

It says my flametongue does DPS in the 380s, and my Windfury procs do... 3.12 DPS.

I double checked my stats that I exported from ShockandAwe, and they're correct. MH Speed 2.60, OH Speed 1.60, MH DPS 171.3, OH DPS 156.6, etc.

Am I supposed to be getting such a low white DPS number or..?

OnosKT · 05/27/09, 7:23 PM

Post a config file, otherwise it's impossible for us to help you. I suspect you might be having too high armor value in the config.

Shinwei · 05/27/09, 7:39 PM

Here's my file:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time 1000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 5
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 200
max_lag 300
simulate_mana 1

ep_precision 0
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 200
ep_crit_rating 30
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating 30
ep_spellpower 150
ep_dps 7.5
ep_mana 250
ep_spirit 150
ep_mp5 20

mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000

rotation_priority_count 8
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 SW
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 ES
rotation_priority5 MT
rotation_priority6 LS
rotation_priority7 LL
rotation_priority8 SR

miss 8.0
dodge 6.5
glancing 24.0
armor 10645
spell_miss 17.0
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0

armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 0/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60

replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 0
judgement_of_wisdom 0

flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_speed
food fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################

race draenei
mh_speed 2.60
oh_speed 1.60
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.6
mh_crit 31.46
oh_crit 31.46
mh_hit 10.86
oh_hit 10.86
mh_expertise_rating 153.00
oh_expertise_rating 153.00
ap 3699
melee_haste 6.58
armor_penetration 3.00
str 129
agi 845
int 542
spi 153
spellpower 1109
spell_crit 23.85
spell_hit 13.57
spell_haste 5.06
max_mana 12246
mp5 0

mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue

mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking

mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -

trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 fury_of_the_five_flights

totem 40322

set_bonus1 naxx_melee_4
set_bonus2 naxx_melee_2
set_bonus3 -

metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant -
cloak_enchant -

glyph_major1 stormstrike
glyph_major2 flametongue_weapon
glyph_major3 windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -

ancestral_knowledge 5/5
improved_shields 0/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 3/3
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 0/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5

convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 0/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 0/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5

hozzer · 05/27/09, 8:21 PM

This is likely what's causing the problem, these should reflect the new percentage values of 20/20 and 5/5 respectively:
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260

This may not have anything to do with your problem, but you probably want to adjust this to at least 1 before running EP calcs:
ep_precision 0

Again, not likely to cause the problem you're seeing, but 4 piece bonuses include the appropriate 2 piece bonus, so you can remove this:
set_bonus2 naxx_melee_2

Shinwei · 05/27/09, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by hozzer

This is likely what's causing the problem, these should reflect the new percentage values of 20/20 and 5/5 respectively:
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260

This may not have anything to do with your problem, but you probably want to adjust this to at least 1 before running EP calcs:
ep_precision 0

Again, not likely to cause the problem you're seeing, but 4 piece bonuses include the appropriate 2 piece bonus, so you can remove this:
set_bonus2 naxx_melee_2

Thanks! That solved it!

I wonder how those armor debuff numbers got so high though, as I never adjusted them manually before.

OnosKT · 05/27/09, 11:31 PM

The config_lvl80 seems to have incorrect values for those 2. You should use the config.txt file for your base config.

Sprinter · 05/29/09, 2:44 PM

I installed the Vista SP2 on both my PC and Laptop and EP Calculation doesnt seem to work anymore.
--> Enhancement Shaman Simulator has stopped working.

EDIT: Oh, and it would be cool to have Mjolnir Runestone in the trinket list :-)

Mengus · 05/29/09, 5:06 PM

How do people deal with setting EP when you're already capped? I know some folks have mentioned setting EP values of capped stats to '2' just so when looking at a new piece of gear, they have a better idea how good it is by itself...

There are times when current EP values will show that a possible upgrade is really a downgrade, but if you get 2 pieces, and they both lack hit, all of a sudden the EP value for hit will skyrocket... Also, if you're currently gemming for a lot of hit and/or expertise, that may also skew your EP values one way....

OnosKT · 05/29/09, 5:18 PM

I personally do not look to compare piece 1 with piece 2 in a vacuum. I know what I have determined to be BiS for me atm (heroic, non hard mode) as a whole set. And I also know what are second BiS per slot, such that if no one else wants them, I will take them until what I want drops.

Morelis · 05/30/09, 6:17 PM

If you're in a position to reach the hit soft cap/expertise hard cap through gems you're best off setting the value for those two stats to whatever your highest stack-able stat is, generally 2 for AP.

If you're at or past the hit soft cap without using any gems then set hit to the EP over the soft cap, around 1.5-1.7 for most. Expertise I just leave at 2 and remind myself that's it's useless past the cap when evaluating items that have it.

rokshan · 06/01/09, 6:35 AM

I guess, I habe discovered a bug in conjuction with the rawr export option and enhsim:

If the Trinket Blood of the Old God is equiped in Rawr and exported to Enhsim it gets an itemnumber (45522), but doesn't sim. I don't know, if it simply isn't implemented yet, because manually it can not be chosen as trinket or if there is a bug in the export etc. The Bug is not that worse, because the pyrite infuser proc works and is only 50 ap less, but its annoying to chose it every time, when exporting from rawr.

Levva · 06/01/09, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by rokshan

I guess, I habe discovered a bug in conjuction with the rawr export option and enhsim:

If the Trinket Blood of the Old God is equiped in Rawr and exported to Enhsim it gets an itemnumber (45522), but doesn't sim. I don't know, if it simply isn't implemented yet, because manually it can not be chosen as trinket or if there is a bug in the export etc. The Bug is not that worse, because the pyrite infuser proc works and is only 50 ap less, but its annoying to chose it every time, when exporting from rawr.

Not a bug its not implemented yet in EnhSim.

Ciege · 06/01/09, 2:14 PM

Im getting VERY skewed EP values from EnhSim. At expertise cap and hit cap (i placed them just below the caps in order to try and prevent the errors i have been receiving lately) i get messages saying i am over the cap still. Tried adjusting Ep Values in the sim to compensate, but unless i give expertise and hit a value of 1, im over the cap, which i know isnt true. Posting my "current EP Values" that im not going to use, and my config file.

Config:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         73
max_lag                         290
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         0
ep_spirit                       0
ep_mp5                          0

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      0
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    2
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    600

rotation_priority_count         5
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              SW

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20/20
armor_debuff_minor              5/5
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    1
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          171.4
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         29.47
oh_crit                         29.47
mh_hit                          11.28
oh_hit                          11.28
mh_expertise_rating             140
oh_expertise_rating             140
ap                              3882
melee_haste                     9.59
armor_penetration               9.17
str                             135
agi                             855
int                             539
spi                             155
spellpower                      1438
spell_crit                      21.72
spell_hit                       13.99
spell_haste                     9.59
max_mana                        12201
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        fury_of_the_five_flights
trinket2                        pyrite_infuser

totem                           totem_of_the_dancing_flame

set_bonus1                      naxx_melee_2
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    feral_spirit

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               0/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

EP Calculation Output:

EnhSim version 1.7.0

Spell hit + EP range goes past cap by 1.13364% (29.7377 hit rating).
Expertise is past cap, EP expertise test will be skipped.

Calculating EP values...
Calculation 1/14: Baseline DPS calculated.
Calculation 2/14: Attack power calculated.
Calculation 4/14: Crit(spell) calculated.
Calculation 3/14: Crit(physical) calculated.
Calculation 6/14: Expertise skipped.
Calculation 5/14: Hit calculated.
Calculation 7/14: Haste calculated.
Calculation 8/14: Armor Penetration calculated.
Calculation 9/14: Spellpower calculated.
Calculation 10/14: Mh Dps calculated.
Calculation 12/14: Mana skipped.
Calculation 13/14: Spirit skipped.
Calculation 14/14: Mp5 skipped.
Calculation 11/14: Oh Dps calculated.


EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      2067.59
ap                        1.00      -0.00     2067.38        -0.20
crit rating               -113.98   0.36      2084.25        16.66
hit rating                -113.39   0.36      2078.40        10.81
expertise rating          -0.00     0.00      0.00           -2067.59
haste rating              -99.61    0.32      2078.03        10.44
armor penetration rating  -82.85    0.26      2071.54        3.95
spellpower                -148.74   0.47      2080.82        13.23
mh dps                    -979.76   3.11      2098.72        31.13
oh dps                    -416.74   1.32      2080.83        13.24
strength                  1.10      
agility                   -28.97    
intelligence*             -19.13    
spirit                    -0.00     0.00      0.00           -2067.59
mana                      -0.00     0.00      0.00           -2067.59
mp5                       -0.00     0.00      0.00           -2067.59

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.

elapsed simulation time: 50000.00h
elapsed real time: 130.30s
simulation speed: 1381469x

I know ive had the problem with the negative EP Values before but cannot seem to remember how i fixed it last time.

Also it says i have an approximate OOM time of 30-40% of the time, i dont know why it says this because in 25 man raids i never oom, even saving Shamanistic Rage for damage mitigation rather than any needed mana regen. Anyone know why this is? Alot of questions and no answers, i hate doing it but if there was a place to say was the bible for my research, this is it. Anyways, thanks for all your hard work, i love the sim!

~Ciege

Sylvand · 06/02/09, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ciege

Im getting VERY skewed EP values from EnhSim. At expertise cap and hit cap (i placed them just below the caps in order to try and prevent the errors i have been receiving lately) i get messages saying i am over the cap still. Tried adjusting Ep Values in the sim to compensate, but unless i give expertise and hit a value of 1, im over the cap, which i know isnt true. Posting my "current EP Values" that im not going to use, and my config file.

Config:
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I know ive had the problem with the negative EP Values before but cannot seem to remember how i fixed it last time.

Also it says i have an approximate OOM time of 30-40% of the time, i dont know why it says this because in 25 man raids i never oom, even saving Shamanistic Rage for damage mitigation rather than any needed mana regen. Anyone know why this is? Alot of questions and no answers, i hate doing it but if there was a place to say was the bible for my research, this is it. Anyways, thanks for all your hard work, i love the sim!

~Ciege

You're using 140 expertise rating, which is the cap, and that is why you're getting the message about expertise. Adding expertise for EP rating won't give anything meaningful; generally people give it a value of 2 EP because you'll gem for it if you can't get enough from gear, and it's pretty easy to avoid the cap especially if you stick to mail gear.

Regarding the mana issue, I see this as well. Looking at a Kologarn parse from this week I see the largest discrepancy on Judgement of Wisdom. Enhsim is showing me with only 8.94 MPS from this ability, and I actually receive 16351 over about 250 second for about 65.4 MPS. In comparison, enhsim is giving me 36.32 MPS from replenishment while I only get about 26.4 (though this could be an uptime issue).

I'm using enhsim 1.7.0, I can provide config if necessary but I imagine it can be easily reproduced. If you're interested in examining the actual WoL log, you can find it here (buffs gained):

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Klejj · 06/02/09, 3:48 AM

This is why you're running oom in the simulator:

rotation_priority_count 5
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 SS
rotation_priority3 ES
rotation_priority4 LL
rotation_priority5 SW

You need to tell the simulator to use SR.

Levva · 06/03/09, 7:36 AM

You probably also want to say to use a fire totem too? eg: Searing or Magma totem? Seriously what's with people changing all the defaults in config.txt when they don't know what they are doing?

Saabu · 06/03/09, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Octanus

I have successfully downloaded EnhSim1.7.0.rar, added my stats, but when I try to run the Enhsim.exe application it comes up with an error and shuts down.

Am I doing anything wrong?

I'm having the exact same problems as a few of the posters above. (vista)

I can simulate for dps, but can not calculate the EP values without the crash.

Looks like it may be the DEP (data execution protection) but I am unable to disable it for this executable.

Bellante · 06/03/09, 4:10 PM

I was having problems in windows 7 with the EP calculation crashing enhsim, but after I set both enhsim.exe and enhsimgui.exe to run in xp service pack 3 compatibility, the problem went away. See if that works.