EnhSim, DPS simulator - Page 92

Rouncer · 02/03/09, 7:11 PM

did you download and install the .net framework necessary to make it run?

Raut · 02/03/09, 7:29 PM

Right. I saw that the linux section on EnhSim: Compiling and building EnhSim is empty so I figured that I'd make a blob of what I do to compile EnhSim. Did this on my new EEE so none of the old library magic I did on previous versions should be present(and jesus this keyboard is tiny).

ZThread
1. Download ZThread from http://zthread.sourceforge.net/download.html
2, Unpack and change into the new directory.
3. ZThread seems to do some stunts which gcc doesn't like, so do: export CXXFLAGS="-fpermissive"
4. ./configure && make && sudo make install

ZThread should now be installed under /usr/local.

Boost
I cheated hee and just installed Ubuntu's binaries.

1. sudo apt-get install libboost-dev

~150MB, but I have no idea what parts EnhSim uses and gcc gets bitchy without the binaries. After this, boost should be done.

EnhSim
1. Unpack and move into the source sub-dir
2. g++ -pthread -I./boost *.cpp /usr/local/lib/libZThread.a -o enhsim

Something is changed since earlier releases as I had to work a bit to get gcc to accept boost, but the above works. Use the binary like the wintendo client: ./enhsim config.txt.

I haven't fiddled with OSX in a while, but I see no reason this shouldn't work with a gcc environment set up. It is a UNIX after all.

TODO:
Optimizations - The client is slower than the pre-built binary. Maybe -O2 or 3 is enough. Have to test it on a proper machine.

Chrizz · 02/04/09, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Asking a question like this without including a config file and telling us what weapon enchants you are attempting to add is like calling your Doctor on the phone and asking them to diagnose what ails you without an examination.

Understood.

Here is my config file, I've retested using no weapon enchants, using Mong/Mong, using Zerk/Zerk, using Zerk/Mong and using Mong/Zerk. All the results show no more than a 1 DPS difference.

simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         100
max_lag                         200
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           70
ep_crit_rating                  40
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    2
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   30
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       50
ep_mp5                          10

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1		SR
rotation_priority2		MW5_LB
rotation_priority3		SS
rotation_priority4		FS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              LL
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8		LS


miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            troll
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          156.5
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         27.73
oh_crit                         27.73
mh_hit                          8.42
oh_hit                          8.42
mh_expertise_rating             195
oh_expertise_rating             195
ap                              3607
haste                           5.43
armor_penetration               0
str                             129
agi                             747
int                             480
spi                             152
spellpower                      1040
spell_crit                      22.93
spell_hit                       10.52
max_mana                        11466
mp5                             92

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      -
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        incisor_fragment
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthstorm_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    flametongue_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                2/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Malan · 02/04/09, 11:03 AM

mh_enchant                      -
oh_enchant                      -

According to that, you have no enchants on your weapons. Did you just blank it out after messing with it, or did you really not set it?

I see that its in the Shock and Awe section that you cut/pasted - you might have an older version of SAA that wasn't parsing the weapon enchants correctly.

Chrizz · 02/04/09, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Malan

According to that, you have no enchants on your weapons. Did you just blank it out after messing with it, or did you really not set it?

I see that its in the Shock and Awe section that you cut/pasted - you might have an older version of SAA that wasn't parsing the weapon enchants correctly.

I purposefully left the weapon enchants blank for now, I did sim using weapon enchants though. I didn't use SAA to load my stats I entered them manually.

Edit: I wish I could say what has changed, but for seemingly no reason I am seeing results from adding different weapon enchants to my sims after recopying the config I posted.

Rouncer · 02/04/09, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Chrizz

I purposefully left the weapon enchants blank for now, I did sim using weapon enchants though. I didn't use SAA to load my stats I entered them manually.

Worked fine for me.

Running with your exact setup (dropped hours to 1000 but everything else the same) - 4751.96dps

Adding Mainhand Berzerker enchant (no OH enchant) - 4828.41dps

Changing MH Berzerker to Mongoose (no OH enchant) - 4811.46

Running with Berzerker on MH and OH - 4895.63

Tronso · 02/04/09, 6:46 PM

I'm currently using [Wraith Strike]+[Webbed Death] for my weapons.
I decided to see how much of an upgrade Calamity's Grasp would be if I replaced my Wraith Strike with everything else being the same and to my surprise enhsim is showing Calamity's Grasp as a slight downgrade instead, but only by a few dps difference though

Config with my current stats with lag set to 0 and combat length 3 min
6138 dps

simulation_time                 20000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   3
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         6
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              ES_SS
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              MT
rotation_priority5              LS
rotation_priority6              LL

miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.4
mh_dps                          90.3
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         32.11
oh_crit                         32.11
mh_hit                          10.49
oh_hit                          10.49
mh_expertise_rating             219
oh_expertise_rating             219
ap                              3663
haste                           3.42
armor_penetration               4.55
str                             131
agi                             868
int                             555
spi                             153
spellpower                      1559
spell_crit                      24.30
spell_hit                       13.11
max_mana                        12441
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        darkmoon_card_greatness
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    stormstrike
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Config with Wraith Strike swapped out for Calamity's Grasp
6129.65

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   3
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         6
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              ES_SS
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              MT
rotation_priority5              LS
rotation_priority6              LL

miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.4
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         32.67
oh_crit                         32.67
mh_hit                          10.49
oh_hit                          10.49
mh_expertise_rating             219
oh_expertise_rating             219
ap                              3753
haste                           2.84
armor_penetration               4.55
str                             131
agi                             904
int                             511
spi                             153
spellpower                      1126
spell_crit                      24.16
spell_hit                       13.11
max_mana                        11781
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        darkmoon_card_greatness
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    stormstrike
glyph_major2                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

I also simed my personal BiS setup I put together while ago and Wraith is also coming ahead but very slightly

Thundering Capacitor is simming for higher then it should be, it now discharges on the 5th stack rather then the 4th stack like it used to.

In other words it discharges after 5 spell crits rather then 4

Rouncer · 02/04/09, 6:58 PM

Originally Posted by Tronso

I'm currently using [Wraith Strike]+[Webbed Death] for my weapons.
I decided to see how much of an upgrade Calamity's Grasp would be if I replaced my Wraith Strike with everything else being the same and to my surprise enhsim is showing Calamity's Grasp as a slight downgrade instead, but only be a few dps difference though

Add the lag back in and CG will be better then WS since autoattacks are unaffected by server latency.

Tronso · 02/04/09, 7:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Add the lag back in and CG will be better then WS since autoattacks are unaffected by server latency.

Using the same configs except changing lag to 200-250
5998.19 with Wraith Strike
5996.40 with Calamity's Grasp

300-350 lag
5935.56 with Wraith Strike
5934.93 with Calamity's Grasp

The difference got allot smaller and I'm sure if I set the lag even higher CG would pull ahead.
Calamity's Grasp has never dropped for my guild and after seeing the sim results I went ahead and replaced the mongoose on my Wraith Strike with Berserking

kaoticz · 02/04/09, 8:16 PM

Originally Posted by Pitbuller

Are you serious?
Magma totem is +3% dps over searing at single target fight if there is no movement at all. It cost extra 235mp5. If you have to redrop it all the time then you will lose GCD or totem uptime (extra mana also) and both hurts overall dps. Your WWS show that you used magma totem with very good uptime and that lowered your other attacks like lightning bolt damage greatly.

Magma totem is great for patcwerk if you got gear for sustain it but it's not that hot at all when there is even little movement. Maybe they should fix searing totem if they want wood imp to be better for single targets.

Are you looking at the overall for the whole night or just bosses individually? Because for trash I can assure you magma totem would most definitely have a much higher uptime

However, during the encounters I only ever once or twice found myself in the position where I dropped a MT right as MW went to a 5 stack at the same time. Other than that, in order to keep the uptime on magma totem, I was actually redropping it before its full duration was up so that it would NOT intersect with other GCD's as best as possible (very very few times sacrificing lava lash to redrop it). When I say redropping it before its full duration, I mean anywhere from 4 to 8 seconds before it expired, sometimes 10 if needed.

Levva · 02/05/09, 5:24 AM

I've had a chat with the Rawr co-ordinator and he is now happy for the Rawr.Enhance module to include an export to EnhSim option as long as the work on the Enhance module proceeds at the same time. Ideally he would like to see the Rawr.Enhance module used by the majority of users who want basic accurate results, and for the elite who want to check things more in depth he is happy for the Rawr.Enhance module to have an export to EnhSim option. Thus my idea for writing a separate java module is unnecessary I can look at incorporating the export into the Rawr module.

For users here this means you could run Rawr import your stats from the Armory, play around with different items in different slots and get reasonable figures from Rawr. You could then export the data to Enh Sim and get more detailed analysis. Play around some more - export again - and test again. It should make swapping out different items a whole lot easier.

It might even be possible with some help from Tukez to set up communication EnhSim so that the Rawr module could write the config to a file that EnhSim would use. This would probably require splitting the character data config from the sim, raid, buff & proc data config. The idea would simply be to eliminate the cut n paste operation in between. Initally doing the work via cut n paste manually would be simplest as it requires no changes at the EnhSim end. Longer term a degree of automation of the process would be desirable.

The biggest challenge in all this is that my C++ is exceptionally rusty, having last coded using that at least 8 years ago. The Rawr stuff is all in Visual Studio which I have but am unfamiliar with so it may take some time. Toots said he was working on the main module to get the stats right, hopefully I can integrate with that and add the export option.

If nothing else we would have two calculations of stats which we could compare one with the other to see where any major differences lie. The major downfall of Rawr of course is that it doesn't attempt to simulate different timings of stuff WF in particular with its internal CD only raw dps calcs. However the basics should be possible to give ballpark comparisons of the output.

Nordin · 02/05/09, 1:38 PM

I want to start off by saying thank you for all the work that has been done here. I play in an endgame guild, and use this site regularly as a way to better my play. Wonderful stuff keep it up, and I will do my part to contribute what I've found now as well.
My question is to why I'm recieving an error when I try to import my config file from SAA. I copy it, and put it into wordpad, and save as a .txt. When I try and open it with the enhance sim I get an error, and it won't let me continue. I mainly stick to manually entering all my stats, but this is getting kind of old. I'm also using the most current version of both the addon and the sim. Any help would be appreciated.
If I'm understanding correctly, Levva you're looking to build a program in which works with enhsim to make inputing different gear set-ups easier? This would be amazing, and would help greatly in deciding whats best for each of us. If there is anything I can do let me know, but I'm not a programmer so keep that in mind.

Acks · 02/05/09, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Add the lag back in and CG will be better then WS since autoattacks are unaffected by server latency.

Also, with a fast offhand, FT damage will be higher and this will inflate the value of WS. I would try simming with Angry Dread in the offhand as well. And are you sure you're adjusting stats correctly when you swap weapons in the sim?

@Nordin: I think the auto-generated file is just portion of the config file that EnhSim needs. Read the readme carefully and it tells you were to paste in the auto-generated SAA config inside the EnhSim config.

qid · 02/05/09, 3:08 PM

EnhSim has been working well for me for a while now, but I'm getting some results that don't seem right. With this configuration (it should match my current gear):

simulation_time                 20000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         200
max_lag                         500
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       1000
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    750

rotation_priority_count         5
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              ES
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              LS

miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            snapper_extreme
misc_item                       -

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race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.5
mh_dps                          171.4
oh_dps                          156.6
mh_crit                         30.01
oh_crit                         30.01
mh_hit                          10.19
oh_hit                          10.19
mh_expertise_rating             214
oh_expertise_rating             214
ap                              3571
haste                           7.41
armor_penetration               0
str                             135
agi                             773
int                             462
spi                             155
spellpower                      1345
spell_crit                      24.78
spell_hit                       12.73
max_mana                        11046
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      mongoose

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        grim_toll
trinket2                        mirror_of_truth

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    earth_shock

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       2/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      2/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

I get these results:

EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      5045.83
ap                        1.00      0.55      5080.80        34.97
crit rating               1.82      1.00      5091.60        45.78
hit rating                1.72      0.94      5073.90        28.07
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -5045.83
haste rating              2.10      1.15      5083.69        37.86
armor penetration rating  1.19      0.63      5055.23        9.40
spellpower                0.96      0.53      5060.54        14.71
mh dps                    5.87      3.18      5077.66        31.84
oh dps                    2.53      1.33      5059.08        13.25
strength                  1.10
agility                   1.80
intelligence*             1.36
spirit                    0.00      0.00      0.00           -5045.83
mana                      0.00      0.00      0.00           -5045.83
mp5                       0.00      0.00      0.00           -5045.83

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.

elapsed simulation time: 200000.00h
elapsed real time: 277.63s
simulation speed: 2593426x

Is anyone else really getting haste values above 2? Everything I've read suggests haste is pretty weak, particularly for melee, and that would make sense seeing as it only affects our white damage. I ran this configuration at least a couple of times and got similar results every time. Previous runs of the sim with older gear didn't give these results. I don't know if I'm missing something obvious, or if maybe there are discontinuities in the value of haste that I'm right on the edge of, or what. Any theories?

Skiace · 02/05/09, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by qid

Is anyone else really getting haste values above 2? Everything I've read suggests haste is pretty weak, particularly for melee, and that would make sense seeing as it only affects our white damage. I ran this configuration at least a couple of times and got similar results every time. Previous runs of the sim with older gear didn't give these results. I don't know if I'm missing something obvious, or if maybe there are discontinuities in the value of haste that I'm right on the edge of, or what. Any theories?

I've gotten negative haste values recently. Try playing with the base haste in your input and see what comes out. I definitely think there's some discontinuities in the value of haste coming out of the sim.