[Elemental] TTT Entry Work-In-Progress - Page 3

Samou · 12/18/08, 6:29 PM

Yeah, Ancestral Knowledge adds separately to both, I was having some initial trouble getting my Int calculations correct because of that.

This is what I have being used in Rawr.Elemental at the moment. I'm a little unsure of Int for Draenei and Tauren, because I'm not sure what Blizzard's rounding rule is for stats. I've listed both possiblities, the first number if Blizzard rounds to the nearest decimal, the second if they use a floor().

Draenei:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 135
Intellect = 128
Spirit = 145

Orc:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 138
Intellect = 125
Spirit = 146

Tauren:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 138
Intellect = 123
Spirit = 145

Troll:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 137
Intellect = 124
Spirit = 144

• Binkenstein · 12/18/08, 7:18 PM

So that's excluding AK? Cheers.

Samou · 12/18/08, 7:28 PM

Correct, and AK adds to each separately rounding the value before adding them together.

Phlis · 12/19/08, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Samou

This is what I have being used in Rawr.Elemental at the moment. I'm a little unsure of Int for Draenei and Tauren, because I'm not sure what Blizzard's rounding rule is for stats. I've listed both possiblities, the first number if Blizzard rounds to the nearest decimal, the second if they use a floor().

Draenei:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 135
Intellect = 128/129
Spirit = 145

They don't use Floor, they just Round nearest. Draenei are 128.

• Binkenstein · 12/19/08, 11:09 PM

Just a note: confirming Glyph of Lava is a flat +10% co-efficient gain.

Samou · 12/20/08, 12:21 PM

I updated my post with the base stats, Tauren was a little off, and Draenei is proper now as well.

• Binkenstein · 02/18/09, 5:51 PM

I'm working on adding in some analysis stuff at the moment.

Initially I'll be covering spell ratios (FS dot ticks, LvB & LvB spell counts vs FS casts, total time over lvb count), although I don't know how that WMO thing handles overload casts. Does it mix it in with the normal LB numbers like WWS does, or split it out like StasisCL?

Shkarn · 02/18/09, 6:11 PM

WMO splits it out separately.

• Binkenstein · 02/18/09, 8:07 PM

CC uptime calculation for a LvB + FS +LB/CL rotation.
$\frac{-1.44c^2n+6c^2+2.4cn-9.74c+3.95}{n}$
Where C = crit chance of LB, and N = spells cast in a spell "set" or rotation. Includes overload chance to cause CC charges.

• Binkenstein · 03/01/09, 3:41 PM

A "To Do" list.

Clearcasting uptime graph
% & numeric damage gains for crit & haste graph(s)
Move clearcasting info to Crit stat section
Analysis of Convection vs Shamanistic Focus vs Unrelenting Storm - regen/saving mana - which is better? (tie in something about mp5 here too)
Hit - Better analysis - what happens when you miss FS/LvB vs a LB.
More detailed breakdown on glyphs

NoX Monk · 03/14/09, 3:41 PM

Add a basic layout of "need to know" information that doesn't involve all the heavy theory you're putting in there. Sort of a basic "How to" for the elemental shaman.

Example:
(stolen and condensed from wow forums: World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Ele Guide: Our LBs will block out the sun)

Hit rating

26.232 hit rating = 1% spell hit chance.
Horde Shaman: you need 368 hit rating to get to 17%. 14%(Hit rating) +3%(talents) = 17%

Alliance Shaman: you need 342 hit rating to get to 17%. 13%(Hit Rating) + 1%(Racial) + 3%(talents) = 17%

26.232 hit rating = 1% spell hit chance
Horde Shaman: You need 289 hit rating to get to 17%. 11% (Hit rating) +3%(talents) +3%(Boomking/Spriest) = 17

Alliance Shaman: You need 263 hit rating to get to 17%. 10% (Hit rating) + 1%(Racial) + 3%(talents) +3%(Boomkin/Spriest) = 17%

Haste Rating

So how much haste do you want? In a balanced character:

To actually get 1.6s LBs requires (1.25/1.05 -1) * 100 * 32.79 = 625 haste rating (rounding up)

With 3% from boomkin, that's (1.25/1.05/1.03 - 1) * 100 * 32.79 = 511

• Binkenstein · 03/14/09, 6:11 PM

I do plan on re-writing the stats sections, but not to a basic level like you're suggesting. I also don't recommend following that guide as he appears to have made some incorrect assumptions.

Hunding · 05/03/09, 10:10 PM

I suggest adding Glyph of Water Shield to the minor glyphs. Although mana isn't an issue for us, a 4th orb does make water shield last longer, and it's not like there are a bunch of other minor glyph options. I keep WS up on movement fights when FS is on CD while moving.

Also, a couple of lines on the Unrelenting Storm vs. Convection math might be useful. I had points in Convection before I did the math. (I actually still do, but I never have mana issues so I haven't actually gotten around to respeccing yet)