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12/18/08, 6:29 PM
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#51
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Glass Joe
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Yeah, Ancestral Knowledge adds separately to both, I was having some initial trouble getting my Int calculations correct because of that.
This is what I have being used in Rawr.Elemental at the moment. I'm a little unsure of Int for Draenei and Tauren, because I'm not sure what Blizzard's rounding rule is for stats. I've listed both possiblities, the first number if Blizzard rounds to the nearest decimal, the second if they use a floor().
Draenei:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 135
Intellect = 128
Spirit = 145
Orc:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 138
Intellect = 125
Spirit = 146
Tauren:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 138
Intellect = 123
Spirit = 145
Troll:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 137
Intellect = 124
Spirit = 144
Last edited by Samou : 12/20/08 at 12:20 PM.
Reason: Fixing Intellect for Draenei/Tauren
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12/18/08, 7:18 PM
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#52
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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So that's excluding AK? Cheers.
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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12/18/08, 7:28 PM
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#53
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Glass Joe
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Correct, and AK adds to each separately rounding the value before adding them together.
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12/19/08, 12:22 AM
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#54
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Don Flamenco
Draenei Shaman
Magtheridon
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Originally Posted by Samou
This is what I have being used in Rawr.Elemental at the moment. I'm a little unsure of Int for Draenei and Tauren, because I'm not sure what Blizzard's rounding rule is for stats. I've listed both possiblities, the first number if Blizzard rounds to the nearest decimal, the second if they use a floor().
Draenei:
Health = 6485
Mana = 4396
Stamina = 135
Intellect = 128/129
Spirit = 145
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They don't use Floor, they just Round nearest. Draenei are 128.
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12/19/08, 11:09 PM
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#55
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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Just a note: confirming Glyph of Lava is a flat +10% co-efficient gain.
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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12/20/08, 12:21 PM
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#56
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Glass Joe
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I updated my post with the base stats, Tauren was a little off, and Draenei is proper now as well.
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02/18/09, 5:51 PM
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#57
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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I'm working on adding in some analysis stuff at the moment.
Initially I'll be covering spell ratios (FS dot ticks, LvB & LvB spell counts vs FS casts, total time over lvb count), although I don't know how that WMO thing handles overload casts. Does it mix it in with the normal LB numbers like WWS does, or split it out like StasisCL?
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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02/18/09, 6:11 PM
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#58
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Von Kaiser
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WMO splits it out separately.
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02/18/09, 8:07 PM
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#59
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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CC uptime calculation for a LvB + FS +LB/CL rotation.

Where C = crit chance of LB, and N = spells cast in a spell "set" or rotation. Includes overload chance to cause CC charges.
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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03/01/09, 3:41 PM
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#60
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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A "To Do" list.
- Clearcasting uptime graph
- % & numeric damage gains for crit & haste graph(s)
- Move clearcasting info to Crit stat section
- Analysis of Convection vs Shamanistic Focus vs Unrelenting Storm - regen/saving mana - which is better? (tie in something about mp5 here too)
- Hit - Better analysis - what happens when you miss FS/LvB vs a LB.
- More detailed breakdown on glyphs
Last edited by Binkenstein : 03/01/09 at 8:50 PM.
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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03/14/09, 3:41 PM
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#61
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Glass Joe
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Add a basic layout of "need to know" information that doesn't involve all the heavy theory you're putting in there. Sort of a basic "How to" for the elemental shaman.
Example:
(stolen and condensed from wow forums: World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Ele Guide: Our LBs will block out the sun)
Hit rating
26.232 hit rating = 1% spell hit chance.
Horde Shaman: you need 368 hit rating to get to 17%. 14%(Hit rating) +3%(talents) = 17%
Alliance Shaman: you need 342 hit rating to get to 17%. 13%(Hit Rating) + 1%(Racial) + 3%(talents) = 17%
26.232 hit rating = 1% spell hit chance
Horde Shaman: You need 289 hit rating to get to 17%. 11% (Hit rating) +3%(talents) +3%(Boomking/Spriest) = 17
Alliance Shaman: You need 263 hit rating to get to 17%. 10% (Hit rating) + 1%(Racial) + 3%(talents) +3%(Boomkin/Spriest) = 17%
Haste Rating
So how much haste do you want? In a balanced character:
To actually get 1.6s LBs requires (1.25/1.05 -1) * 100 * 32.79 = 625 haste rating (rounding up)
With 3% from boomkin, that's (1.25/1.05/1.03 - 1) * 100 * 32.79 = 511
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03/14/09, 6:11 PM
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#62
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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I do plan on re-writing the stats sections, but not to a basic level like you're suggesting. I also don't recommend following that guide as he appears to have made some incorrect assumptions.
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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05/03/09, 10:10 PM
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#63
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Glass Joe
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I suggest adding Glyph of Water Shield to the minor glyphs. Although mana isn't an issue for us, a 4th orb does make water shield last longer, and it's not like there are a bunch of other minor glyph options. I keep WS up on movement fights when FS is on CD while moving.
Also, a couple of lines on the Unrelenting Storm vs. Convection math might be useful. I had points in Convection before I did the math. (I actually still do, but I never have mana issues so I haven't actually gotten around to respeccing yet)
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