Skyhoof

I have replaced the information in my original post with the Trinket section of the Resto Shaman TTT. This has the most accurate and up-to-date information.

How to calculate the value of on-use trinkets:

Take the amount of additional healing and multiple by the duration of the buff. Then divide by the cooldown. Let’s use [Winged Talisman] as an example

346*20/120 = 57.7 spellpower

To ensure you use on-use trinkets every time the cooldown is available, you can create a macro to use them each time you cast Earth Shield, Chain Heal or another spell.

Trinkets listed by item level.

	Item Level	Mp5	Spell Power	Proc Chance	Cooldown	Source
[Show of Faith]	239	48	140	10%?	45 sec?	Yogg-Saron-25-Hard
++Meteorite Crystal	226	80 mp5 + 111 Int	--	--	2 min	Alagon-10
[Scale of Fates]	226	--	125	--	2 min	Thorim-25
[Pandora's Plea]	226	108 Int	141.7	?	45 sec?	Mimiron-25
[Sif's Remembrance]	226	39	110	10%	45 sec?	Thorim-10-Hard
[Living Ice Crystals]+	226	43				Malygos-25
[Eye of the Broodmother]	219	--	125	--	--	Razorscale-10	Use Healing Stream to stack buff
[Energy Siphon]	219	43	68	--	2 min	Flame Leviathan-10
[Soul of the Dead]	213	75	--	25%	45 sec	Sapphiron-25
[Illustration of the Dragon Soul]	213	--	180	--	--	OS-25	Use Healing Stream to stack buff
[Forethought Talisman]	213	--	111	20%	45 sec	Naxx-25
[Je'Tze's Bell]	200	25	106	10%	45 sec	World BoE
[Embrace of the Spider]	200	--	98	10%	45 sec	Naxx-10	Triggered by all spells
[The Egg of Mortal Essence]	200	--	98			[Emblem of Heroism] x 40
[Mercurial Alchemist Stone]	200	28.7*	59	--	--	Crafted
[Figurine - Sapphire Owl]	200	39	--	--	--	Crafted
[Forge Ember]	200	--	85.3	10%	45 sec	HoS (heroic)
[Spark of Life]	200	44	--		45 sec	HoS (heroic)
[Winged Talisman]	200	29	57.7	--	2 min	HoL (heroic)
[Soul Preserver]	187	20-80**	75	2%	None	CoS	Can proc of each jump of Chain Heal
[Tome of Arcane Phenomena]	187	--	68	--	2 min	Oculus
[Cannoneer's Fuselighter]	174	--	46.8	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Cannoneer's Morale]	174	22	46.8	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Badge of the Infiltrator]	158	46 Int	30.5	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Horn of the Herald]	138	--	30.5	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Mender of the Oncoming Dawn]	138	17	28.8	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Sailor's Knotted Charm]	138	18	--	--	2 min	Quest Reward
[Strike of the Seas]	138	--	30.5	--	2 min	Quest Reward

Note: One proc per minute assumed for trinkets with a hidden 45-second cooldown
+ Does not benefit from spell power, but does benefit from talents such as purification (2981). It can crit (4471 with purification)
++The theoretical maximum amount of mana that would be restored is 2,640, assuming you could cast 20 spells in 20 seconds and mp5 ticks every 2 seconds. Under real world conditions, ~2000 mana or less is more realistic. For math, see this post.
* Five-minute fight
** Due to RNG, mana returned in any given fight is highly variable. Wear only when spamming Chain Heal.

Other Trinkets

[Darkmoon Card: Greatness] from [Nobles Deck]
--90 Intellect version
--If use you Mana Tide when it procs, you would get an extra 1080 mana
--45 second hidden cooldown?
--If it procs once per minute, you would have 25% uptime, giving you the equivalent of an extra 75 Intellect

The proc would give 363 Intellect with Blessing of Kings, which would provide:
--2.18% spell crit (equivalent to 100 crit rating)
--54.45 spell power
--5445 total mana (68.1 mp5 from replenishment & 1307 extra from Mana Tide if timed properly but that's not always practical)

 

Yadee

Nice list

Any particular reason why you didnt list [Soul of the Dead] ?

Even at a 2 minute internal cooldown it is 37.5 mp5

 

tufy

Yadee, if a spell says "spell critical strike", it's on all spells. If there's a word "offensive" or "healing" added, then it's those particular spells only.

Creativity requires the courage to let go of certainties.

 

Yadee

Then i do feel that this trinket is worth mentioning

I have gotten very good results by stacking crit so far, and anything to help this AND pad up on our biggest weakness, is very welcome in my book

 

jaredh

It looks to me like it outclasses all the rest of these listed if you are MT healing. +Crit and Crits restore mana = fantastic for that situation.

You might want to sub-divide best-in-slot gear by raid healing and tank healing at this point, Skyhoof. All the +Crit changes and glyphs shaman have will lead a larger number of us to tank healing.

I think raid healing goes back to mana regen and haste, while tank healing probably stacks crit and regen. Both need to stack as much Int as possible, possibly to the point of gemming for it like we gemmed for +healing in TBC.

Thoughts?

 

sovelis41

[Badge of the Infiltrator]

This is only a green, but has comparable spell power and a nice chunk of int for those that wish to stack it, and is arguably as good as some of the blue rewards for those that don't like trinkets you have to click.

You pay for the whole chair, but you only need the edge.

 

Torrential

edit: I need to learn to read, sorry

 

bewmheels

Just looking at your top 2 trinkets I'm just wondering why you put a bigger value on spell power than pure regen?
Do you think at full t7.5 gear we will have enough regen to be able to stack so much spell power in our trinkets? I guess im just drawing parallels to Naxx from my experiences in ssc/tk where getting regen heavy items did absolute wonders for me.

Wouldn't normally bring this up but the trinkets make a huge chuck of my total sp/mp5 so i put a heavy value on them.

 

Skyhoof

1) The loot list for Naxx on wowhead.com did not list it. It may not drop in the patch that went live.
The omission of Soul of the Dead had nothing to do with valuing spellpower over mana regen or crit. It's a bit early to say which are the most important stats for raiding.

2) Can anyone (perhaps from Beta) confirm it procs off healing spells?

3) Anyone know the hidden cooldown? 1 minute? 2 minutes?

If anyone has already gotten [Soul Preserver] or [Forge Ember] or [Embrace of the Spider] or [Je'Tze's Bell] we could still use some confirmation on cooldowns and other mechanics. Thanks.

 

Yadee

I am able to link the item ingame with atlasloot on my server, for what that is worth
It was red-framed, then i right clicked to query the server and the server replied, so i think it should exist on my server then ?
I dont know how accurate and real the info that appears in the chat when you do that is




As it says in the OP, yes

 

Sunchips

In practice, that proc really isn't very good so far. I'd almost say it's better for MT spam healing because then it's actually consistent. Then again it may just be that content is too easy to tell. On a fight like 25 man saph or sartharion with drakes alive the proc itself can count for 2-3% of my healing done....which isn't too shabby. But in the long run....you're really just getting a trinket with 111 SP. The proc is pretty awful when you compare to [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]. It certainly isn't worth 149 SP.

As for the new memento [Je'Tze's Bell], wowhead is reporting this as a world drop and not just a naxx drop?? Yet it's still bop? Just a bug I'm guessing?

 

Trivial

No, it is a BoP world drop. Or at least, from instances only. It dropped for another shaman in my guild in heroic Azjol-Nerub. From trash, I believe.

 

Piston

Forethought Talisman can proc off Earth Shield
Soul of The Dead can proc off Healing Spells

I got them both and I got the Soul of the Dead to proc about once a minute although the talisman is much more frequent. Maybe a 20 second cooldown.

My WWS had Sotd procing on Kel'Thuzzad 6 times in a 7 minute fight.

 

kaboom

Mabye an obvious question already, but as i cant remember or find it i´ll try here:

Does the [Discerning Eye of the Beast] only trigger if you get the killing blow? Or does it count any mob that gives you xp?
Because if it works while in a party, it´s a nice chunk of mana everytime something gets killed at 80?

Assuming 20k mana pool, thats about 400 mana / mob which should be kinda good for trash/heroics ?

 

Trifle

I have the soul preserver which I use atm for the passive spell power (lacking anything better) and honestly the proc rate is too low to check for hidden cooldowns. If I'm lucky it will proc once during my mana bar if I spam LHW to try and proc it.

 

Orcheon

my early tests with forethought talisman put it at about a 45 second internal.

 

Melkor45

I can confirm that [Soul of the Dead] does indeed proc on healing spell crits.

I also did a little testing today, and got 10 procs in 10 minutes of chain casting... making it 75 mp5. Pretty damn impressive if you have the crit to keep the internal cooldown 'on cooldown'.

 

Kaytikat

I've been using [Spark of Life] and am very happy with it. It is basically [Memento of Tyrande] only with haste instead of spellpower and a *lot* more mp5. The usual 45 second internal cooldown results in a consistant 1ppm, giving a value for this trinket of 44mp5.

 

Vuldunobetra

[Badge of the Infiltrator]

I second this. Very powerful as a green reward. Intellect is way powerful, expect Blizz to nerf it.

 

Micah

Just a note on [Figurine - Sapphire Owl].

Since this is JC only, best case for mana regen is socketed with 2x [Lustrous Dragon's Eye] giving an additional passive bonus of 24 mp5 on top of the 39 (or higher) mp5 on use. It also has 42 int passive which is not listed in the original post.

 

bewmheels

You would be better putting in 2 x [Brilliant Dragon's Eye] for +54 INT
In mp5 terms its worth 32.4mp5 and on top of that you have the benefits to spell power an crit. I'm very undecided as to how good this trinket is but with nearly 100 intellect i'm finding it very hard to replace with any of the epic trinkets

 

riverstomp

Je'Tze's Bell is a BoP world drop. I found it two days ago on a Vyrkul in Ymir in Icecrown.

I assume that this is in itemization glitch: Either it is supposed to be an instance bossdrop or (if world drop) it is wrongfully tagged as BoP.

 

Ynyienae

So I managed to get my hands on a Soul preserver and thought I'd share my results.

202 casts of LHW and only 3 procs from the Soul Preserver. Not too impressive. Puts it at roughly a 1.5% chance to proc.

Not sure how to model the possible internal cooldown, but I don't think it will affect the value of the trinket much since the proc rate is so low.

 

Nariivla

I am currently Elemental, but I use the [Illustration of the Dragon Soul] in both my Elemental and Resto sets. I just wanted to point out it does not see Water Shield as a spell, at least in my playing with it, so it does not ramp up with it. I would assume this is due to the lack of mana cost to Water Shield. However, I tend to just redrop Tremor Totem multiple times before a pull due to its low mana cost to ramp it up before dropping my usual totem set.

 

Pitbuller

Do lightning shield work? I ramp up [Pendant of the Violet Eye] with it. Spell cost 0 mana but free spell flag is still turned off.

Slow, slower, shaman weapon.