Soul Preserver

I've done a little testing last night in Naxxramas with Soul Preserver. Two of our druids and me used it throughout the entire raid. Pretty general setup, we did plague and spider wing.

I got a total of 28 procs over HPS time of 49 minutes mainly with CH (62%), while the rest was single target heals, ELW and ES procs. That translates to 1.75 ppm with a net mana gain of around 1125 mana per minute, taking into account the cost of my CH which is 643 mana (with Totem of Forest Growth), while LHW is 626 mana, so the two are almost identical. This is roughly 94 mp5. In total, I got 1267 hits with healing spells and ELW. With 28 procs that's 1 proc in each 45,25 hits with healing spells.

Here comes the best part. With roughly the same netto healing time (54 and 55 minutes), the two druids had 56 and 62 Healing Trance procs. I'd say it's a must get for druids, but still a pretty good trinket for shamans, however you must try and hit all targets with CH to reap the most benefit. For single target healing, you should look elsewhere.

My WWS breakdown for the entire night: Wow Web Stats

Druid breakdowns: Wow Web Stats, Wow Web Stats

Just checked. I had assumed Lightning Shield would not trigger it for similar reasons but, surprise surprise, it does.

Lightning Shield works.

Water Shield does not.

How very odd...

Wouldn't 28 procs in 49 minutes be 0.57 procs per minute? Which would make it roughly 367 mana per minute if you used it to cast a chain heal, or about 30mp5. Also I believe its a 2% proc rate (so you should expect 1 proc per 50 hits) meaning that you got a better than average result from your session, so it may be less.

Yes, sorry, stupid me. Looks like I was using one of the druid numbers for the calculations. Of course this trinket gets better if you use CH more, but as you pointed out, not the best for healing shamans.

Thanks for the correction.

I've been using the sapphire owl with 2 [Brilliant Dragon's Eye], and it's been pretty nice, so far. The on-use effect is still pretty nice, though it's usually once a fight with the 5 minute cooldown. If I'm in a 5-man or a 10-man without replenishment in the group, I switch to [Winged Talisman]. I'm hoping that we see some epic JC trinkets released with the Ulduar patch, but I might stick with this one anyway for a while.

Regarding regen trinkets, [Spiritist's Focus] is an easily obtainable quest reward.

I assume it works like the Delrissa trinket

If you are so inclined, you can write macro's within clique to make use of such an item. It will function as clique normally does and will not require you to have the intended recipient to be targeted.

I'd see it as a nice addition to a ns/tf/HW macro, nice big 13k heal...if it can crit and gets increased by spellpower then even better

You could also macro it to riptide depending on how you use riptide. If you mainly use it to throw heals while having to move then getting a boost from the trinket once a minute could be nice. I don't know that I would want the Malygos trinket for PvE since right now I want healing thoroughput more than anything from my trinkets, but it looks amazing for PvP. If replenishment gets nerfed it would be a lot more appealing.

BTW, to use the trinket in clique like someone else mentioned you just need to use the [target=mouseover] modifier.

I have [Soul of the Dead] now

I was looking forward to Loatheb for several days so i could test the trinket in a near-100% crit enviroment so really find out what its internal cooldown is, but the shortest time interval yesterday was measured elsewhere (Loathed produced some 50-second procs)

21:38'08.406 Yadee gains 900 Mana from Soul of the Dead.
21:38'53.625 Yadee gains 900 Mana from Soul of the Dead.

Thats 45 seconds, the shortest time interval i recorded yesterday, though i had several under-60-second procs throughout the night

That would be because LS used to cost mana, and I'm fairly confident that Blizzard made a mistake not turning on the 0-mana cost flag. Will be corrected in a future patch.

Spent some badges over the weekend on [The Egg of Mortal Essence] and used it for the tail end of a Naxx 25 clear. From going through the WWS logs it looks like it has a 45s internal cooldown as I never saw 2 procs back to back with less than 45 seconds between them.

03:25'46.060 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:26'32.224 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:31'35.361 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:32'25.911 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:33'20.554 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:34'06.626 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:34'52.750 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:35'37.817 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:36'26.128 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:37'16.075 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:38'22.172 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:39'17.785 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:42'50.585 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:44'16.664 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:45'59.597 Furiana gains Essence of Life. 
03:47'04.323 Furiana gains Essence of Life.

etc

Hope this helps.

Useless bit of information but made me laugh. The Egg procs off the healing done by ghostwolf.

A lot of the proc trinkets seem to just proc off the most useless things. Such as having my [Dying Curse] proc off my Northrend Inscription Research just about daily.

Like I said earlier, I'm currently using [Figurine - Sapphire Owl] with 2x [Brilliant Dragon's Eye] socketed for a total passive bonus of 96 Intellect and 2 mp5, and a use that returns 2340 mana (39 mp5 if used on cooldown), but I've been looking at the intellect version of [Darkmoon Card: Greatness].

The proc would give 363 Intellect with Blessing of Kings, which would provide:

• 2.18% spell crit (equivalent to 100 crit rating)
• 54.45 healing spell power
• 5445 total mana (68.1 mp5 from replenishment & 1307 extra from Mana Tide if timed properly)

If you time your mana tide to line up with the int proc, the card gives about the same overall mana returns as the JC trinket in addition to the extra crit and healing. However, I may just end up switching away from the +int trinkets altogether and put my JCing gems into other slots.

I've not stacked Int, but have a few Int gems as I decided my current stoppoint (which I've reached) is 20k buffed mana. The only time I've had a mana problem so far is 10-man Patchwerk only with 2 healers and I had to keep up the OT and help on MT because the other healer was more or less a freshly dinged 80. And to make matters worse we didn't have Replenishment. I'm fairly confident that with replenishment we would have had him.

My current advise is don't gem or enchant specific for Int unless you're having mana problems on a regular basis.

Be careful assuming that people are stacking INT because they "saw a few posts." My previous post was mostly to compare the relative value of those two +INT trinkets, but I'm not necessarily sold on using either of them long-term. I currently have INT stacked to an extreme in my gear mostly as a matter of convenience, since both [Dazzling Forest Emerald] and [Brilliant Autumn's Glow] are both learned from the trainer, and the [Figurine - Sapphire Owl] follows that same line.

For the most part, I would say that no, I am not really hurting that bad for mana. However, I wouldn't say that stacking INT is at the expense of crit or spell power. 1 item point of INT is worth .333 points of crit rating, .156 points of spell power, and 18.15 mana (which is can be worth between 0 and .567 points of mp5 depending on replenishment uptime). As far as a nice, balanced stat to stack, INT is a pretty good way to go IF you don't want to spend too much time thinking about it.

That said, I'll probably end up redoing a large portion of my gems as I collect more gear, but I'm not in too big of a rush.

I have not been focusing on INT at all and haven't been seeing mana problems. Even on Sartharion+3, a mana pot with the alchemists stone was enough to keep me above 30% the entire fight.

I am trying to stack haste/SP as mana is never a problem.

[The Egg of Mortal Essence] & [Embrace of the Spider] are identical in everything but their name.

Is there experience with this type of similarity in objects where a future patch will cause them to share a cooldown? I'd love to have both but don't want to end up with a trinket and a half after some future patch.

No. The former is designed to be a healing trinket, the latter is usable by dps classes.

One of our druids reported that both trinkets procced for him at the same time. So no, they don't share a cd.