This was changed and released last night.

Hopefully this isn't too tangential; however, it is important to note, that the range on the proc from Tiny Abom is not your characters max melee range. I don't have definitive range values, however when hitting a test dummy you have to be half of your max melee range for the procs to damage the target, else the 8 stack is consumed and no damage is dealt.

[e] If there is series of trials you would like me to run to hammer out the details of this trinket send me a PM with the trial criteria and I'll get a post up

Preliminary test dummy results:
- Turned sideways so only specials hit,

-- I've noted that a single stormstrike can net up to 3 motes of anger

-- WF also 'seems' to net motes

-- I've yet to determine definitively whether WF/FT can proc from a trinket proc, but preliminary tests would suggest, yes. (Lava Lash used to note FT procs)

>> For FT, when SS'ing with double FT you typically only see 2 SS hits and 1 FT proc, however, with the trinket at 7 motes while performing SS, I noted 2x FT, 2x SS, 1x Manifest Anger consistently. WF isn't as cut and dry to test (I don't believe) due to the nature of the proc.

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So you know, Unsu, the discussion on the TAiaJ bug is going on in the 3.3 thread (though it probably should have been here I guess?). There's a bug report up on the forums, but it could probably use a bump. Link is in the other thread.

Was actually my own neglect for not keeping up with that thread. But I don't suppose it will cause harm for it to have brief mention here. Bumping the linked post momentarily. Thanks for the heads up all the same.

My experience was the same. I have also seen 3 motes from a single stormstrike, and can confirm that the manifest anger hit CAN proc FT or WF. WF is harder to get a look at, but if you use lava lash rather than SS when proccing the trinket, you'll see
Lava lash hit
Mote of anger fades
FT hit
Manifest anger hit
FT hit

You can do the same by imbuing the offhand with WF, but it's harder to get to go off because the lava lash itself sometimes procs the WF. I only managed to make the WF proc occur once.
it will similarly appear as:
Lava lash hit
Mote fades
Manifest anger hit
WF hit
WF hit

As opposed to a LL procing WF, which looks like:
Lava Lash hit
Mote fades
WF hit
WF hit
Manifest anger hit

Using LL to test seems to be a little cleaner, because you have less hit and proc effects than with SS.

It also does not appear to have any ICD - the one WF proc off a trinket proc I got, both WF attacks stacked up motes.

Edit: I am now also seein the bitty 'bom jar functioning properly from full melee range.

TAiaJ looks to be performing as intended since the patch. It no longer has its 0 yard range and can hit test dummies from max melee range.

I'm not sure which version you are using, but the version posted in the op is in fact faulty. However, another version was posted with the correct values, though it has not been updated with trinkets from 3.3.

Here's the link again: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...qLTdMZmc&hl=en

Please take the ep values projected with a grain of salt when choosing upgrades, just as you should be wary of ep values when regemming or deciding the value of gear in general. Use tools such as Rawr or Enhsim to produce more reliable results that take into account stat and proc interactions, the same factors that make ep values less than ideal for choosing upgrades.

*edit: I see that the op was updated to include 3.3 trinkets, but it still remains uncorrected regarding the trinkets that I fixed before. Thanks for catching that and hopefully extenze will get around to fixing those details in the near future. You can always save a copy of the spreadsheet and manually alter the formulae if you need to compare them to the 3.3 trinkets.

Updating the link in OP with the last 3.3 trinket spreadshete, let me know if it needs further updating. Many of the original trinkets were a bit dated, so I changed the OP to reflect some of the high EP trinkets.

Anyone who wants to double check the formula I used for the Whispering Fanged Skull, please do so and let me know if I botched it.

Looks like that spreadsheet has wrong information about [Deathbringer's Will]because that proc has Agi, Ap and Haste not ArP. 600 agi, 1200 ap or 600 haste.


Got it last night and yes it procs haste not ArP

Not sure if anyone has given it any thought, but using my current EP values and the apparent extreme scaling of Haste with my DPS at my gear level, [Dislodged Foreign Object] may very well be one of our BiS trinket slots.

I suposse some research is needed on the proc rate and if the proc affects 100% of our spell damage (magma totem, flametongue weapon etc) but the Haste alone makes it quite interesting.

The Heroic 277 version of Dislodged Foreign Object you linked is less dps then the the 251 version of WFS or the 264 version of DbW or Comet's Trail and is roughly on par with regular Tiny Abom or Heroic Death's Choice. It is literally blown out of the water by the War Token as well as the heroic versions of WFS, DbW and the Tiny Abom.

Sim models it properly if you would like to test it for yourself but unless your mainspec is Elemental or it's going to melt please leave that trinket to the casters who will get so much more out of it then you will as Enhancement.