I think [Fetish of Volatile Power] is being undervalued especially when it comes to simming. While flametongue and lava lash do not proc it, Wind Shear does, this allows us to get in a few extra stacks. In practice, I was able to get it to the full 8 stacks with at least 10 seconds remaining a significant percentage of the time.

Yesterday in 10 man TotC I got the trinket [Vengeance of the Forsaken] and I got a chance to play with it for a bit. The trinket itself definately isn't the best you can get but there might be some people wondering if it could be an upgrade for them or for their alt.
I bound the trinket to my Stormstrike (/startattack, /use trinket, /cast stormstrike) and when I start the fight only using stormstrike will get me 4 stacks instantly. Stormstrike then earthshock basicly gets the max of 5 stacks going meaning you got around 18 seconds of 1075ap. I was really surprised it stacked so fast especially since a Deathknight on wowhead claimed his dual wield abilities only got 1 stack up.

If using the trinket gets you exactly at the expertise cap I think this trinket is not as bad as most would think. An upgrade to mirror of truth and fury of the five flights in odd minute fights (1 minute, 3 minutes, 5 minutes etc.) at least and a good alternative to +hit trinkets when your spellhit capped, especially with expertise simming high before you hit the cap. I estimate the AeP value around 341 (83*2 + 1053/6 = 341 AeP) - 415 (83*2 + 3159/13)

However if your enhancement shaman is your main and you are playing endgame content everything in Ulduar is probably a much bigger upgrade.

I have to agree on the Vengeance.

My alt Shaman picked it up too (replaced Fury of the Five Flights) and I was pleasantly surprised at it. Like you I noticed very rapid stacking. Once even 5 stacks at once (WF procced I believe). And it let me get rid of some crap leather with Expertise (still need to get rid of 5 more though).

A solid trinket when all you have is pretty much outdated.

That's exactly what I was thinking with it. I have just over 100 expertise rating in gems, and am still using a Mirror, so in my case it's a big upgrade. If I were to get a hold of an OH axe to fully activate the Orc racial (or you know, a non-200 trinket), that would change things. It should also be noted that the heroic version has the same amount of expertise on it, but the AP use is 250 per stack instead of 215, so the higher item budget isn't just more expertise that would likely put you over cap.

As a Draenei it's not that horrible as a trinket. Granted there are better ones you can get, ie Death's Choice + Comet's Trail. But if you have only t9.3 Gloves giving you expertise and that trinket it will put you at 26/26 142 Expertise Rating. If you have top tier t9 it'd be 27/27 151 Expertise Rating.

I'd probably use it for a bit since I have the Heroic version of it, if I got my rid of my second ring, shoulders, and offhand weapon making it to where my t9.3 gloves the only other piece with expertise on it.

[e] Hmm seems armory has me with it on right now. Must of not switched back to my normal trinket for that slot before I logged. My normal trinkets are BotOG and PI.

Well for me this really worked out to be a great transitional trinket. (btw: I got [Victor's Call]) Currently I am in a mix of 7.5, 8, and one 9. I am a a JC, so without this trinket I had to use all 3 of my JC only gems to be expertise to reach cap. Now that I use this trinket, I can fill those 3 gem slots with 3 x 68 AP = 204 AP! I've macro'd the on use to stormstrike and it does stack very very quickly. With these changes I have noticed a very nice dps increase.

I just got mine yesterday and did some quick damage testing with it. Basically on the heroic dummy I was getting about 300DPS consistently while it's up. It has 33.333333% uptime so about 100DPS. I'll be looking more deeply at raid combat logs to get an idea of how debuffs affect it.

The biggest issue I found with the tentacles is that their attacks can be dodged as well as miss since they don't carry your expertise and hit. This is seriously detrimental to the constrictor as it can result in the bleed stack dropping which absolutely destroys its DPS.

The tentacle does not seem to gain any sort of buffs as it was not picking up my totems.

I'm going to do some testing later today to see if the corrupter eats up SS charges (since it belongs to the shaman it might).

A question: Is data such as a mob's damage range and swing speed available in the MPQ files?

While I don't have any actual data, [Mark of Supremacy] should be better.

Basically the two trinkets are the same, only difference is that [Shard of the Crystal Heart] on-use effect is 512 haste vs [Mark of Supremacy] 1024 AP. 2 AP are usually worth more then 1 haste, but even if you do reach EP value of 2+ for haste I believe the AP effect will be better since you can sync it with wolves, granting them a nice AP boost, as opposed to the haste effect which won't benefit them at all (to my knowledge).


As for the tests you were doing, I'm assuming they were in-game. If so the DPS differences are probably due to procs such as Berserking or other trinkets.

Has anyone tested out [Pandora's Plea] for enhance dps? I'm a healer turned enhance and in my opinion, its a better trinket than some of the others I have accumulated. Any thoughts?

Assuming the EP values in the default spreadsheet on the first page and using an EP of 1.43 for INT, Pandora's Plea has an approximate value of 328EP assuming a 45 ICD.

...I think.

Was on vacation and just got back, but last I checked I didn't have the spreadsheet from him yet, though I did hear from him via PM.

I think I'll go back to the 'original' trinket spreadsheet, which, while not as fancy, essentially serves the same purpose, and nets the same results. I'll dig up the old one I had and get to work on it.