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Old 12/19/08, 12:23 PM   #76
jaredh
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Uldaman
Originally Posted by Altsobadoli View Post
When will savage totem gladiators of the third wind become available? The guy who Wowhead says sells it is nowhere to be found in wintergrasp.
I'm afraid they removed it along with the weapons. It appears only the top level Deadly ones are in-game, with their difficult to obtain 2030 rating. It is a pretty significant omission to not have a LHW relic. I started a post on the official Shaman forum about it.

Last edited by jaredh : 12/19/08 at 12:23 PM. Reason: spelling

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Old 12/21/08, 9:52 PM   #77
Ranyon
Glass Joe
 
Paladan
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Non-US/EU Server
Originally Posted by Altsobadoli View Post
When will savage totem gladiators of the third wind become available? The guy who Wowhead says sells it is nowhere to be found in wintergrasp.
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - 70 pvp gear

It was not removed. We're aware of the issue of this gear being currently unavailable and plan to make them available for purchase again in the near future. I don't have an exact time frame for you right now.

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Old 12/22/08, 3:31 PM   #78
Infuri
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Shaman
 
Dalaran
I'm glad someone has mentioned the fact that rotations for healing spells just don't really make sense in the application of it. The only fight I've done so far where a rotation was actually used for high HPS was razuvious, and even then, the fight is easy enough to heal that it didn't really matter.

Healing really is an art, and trying to apply rotations and processes to art works in some cases, but not in most. A lot of times I feel like these boards are like the MBA student interns I get; great in theory, but in application leaves something to be desired.

Sixthy, thank you for providing some 'real world' application of the math, and explaining your findings in actually applicable ways.

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Old 12/22/08, 5:20 PM   #79
jaredh
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Uldaman
Originally Posted by Ranyon View Post
After reading the link you posted and the thread it came from, I am of the opinion Neth was talking about the level 70 PVP gear, not the level 80 Savage gear that I and the person your response was to were talking abou

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Old 12/26/08, 6:22 AM   #80
3til3
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Nathrezim
If one can't reach 2030 to acquire the pvp LHW totems what would be the next best option? Totem of the Plains - Item - World of Warcraft or Totem of the Thunderhead - Item - World of Warcraft still worthwhile? Or am I missing something that's hands down better from WoTLk?

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Old 12/26/08, 10:55 AM   #81
wilfan
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Kazzak (EU)
Well, there is [Hateful Gladiator's Totem of the Third Wind] and [Savage Gladiator's Totem of the Third Wind], but they're AFAIK on no vendors in the game. Personally, I'm running with [Totem of the Plains] when LHW spamming is needed.

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Old 12/27/08, 8:21 AM   #82
willem11
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Human Mage
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Originally Posted by 3til3 View Post
If one can't reach 2030 to acquire the pvp LHW totems what would be the next best option? Totem of the Plains - Item - World of Warcraft or Totem of the Thunderhead - Item - World of Warcraft still worthwhile? Or am I missing something that's hands down better from WoTLk?
[Totem of Life] owns the [Totem of the Plains] if you happen to still have it.

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Old 12/29/08, 10:36 AM   #83
sovelis41
Bald Bull
 
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Draenei Shaman
 
Zul'Jin
Originally Posted by willem11 View Post
[Totem of Life] owns the [Totem of the Plains] if you happen to still have it.
Unless I'm missing something, it's only a 1 spell power difference which isn't really enough to say it "owns" the blue version more shamans are likely to have.

You pay for the whole chair, but you only need the edge.

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Old 01/06/09, 6:08 AM   #84
Jorja
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Skullcrusher (EU)
So they'll nerf the water shield proc for LHW spam, anyone has dome real numbers? I had to agree it gained me like my total mana pool over a boss fight, which is too much tbh, but I hope it won't change the way I have to be geared for single target healing :s

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Old 01/07/09, 3:40 PM   #85
Lintra
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Hyjal
Originally Posted by grayrest View Post
Intellect
Int is the best all around stat for any shaman healer. You want to gem for int more or less regardless of your playstyle as long as you have any concerns about mana. 100 Int grants (assuming BoK):
  • 1815 increase in your mana pool
  • 20.4 mp5 from replenishment with a 90% uptime
  • 7.25 mp5 from Mana Tide on cooldown (435 mana per tide)
  • 36.3 SP to heals
  • .726% crit
Overall very good stuff. I am, however, a bit confused at the 100 int = 36.3 SP to heals. Currently the talent (Nature's Blessing I believe) shows 'Increases healing by an amount equal to 15% of your Int", or somesuch. With kings that would be 16.5%. I looked through this thread pretty carefully to see if I'd missed anything, but I am human and therefore make errors. I am not normally resto - but spec into it as needed, and I recall *thinking* it was 33% ... has it changed since this was written, or am I missing something else?

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Old 01/07/09, 4:26 PM   #86
Nagisamuro
Piston Honda
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Cho'gall
Int:SP

Patch 3.0.2 changed Nature's Blessing from 10/20/30% Bonus Healing to 5/10/15% Spell Power in keeping with the unification of spell damage/healing.

The TTT has it different, and (I think) correct:
1) Ancestral Knowledge (AK) now affects Intellect so each point of Intellect is really 1.1
2) Shaman now have talents that boost crits or proc on crits
3) Nature's Blessing converts up to 15% of your Intellect into Spellpower
4) Mana restored from Mana Tide is based on your maximum mana
5) Replenishment is based on your maximum mana

10 Intellect = 6 mp5 if you have a 5-minute fight with Mana Tide and 100% uptime from Replenishment.
10 Intellect also gives 3.3 crit rating and 1.8 spell power
So, (100 Int * (10% From BoK + 10% from Ancestral Knowledge)) * 15% conversion rate from Nature's Blessing = 18 SP

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