[Elemental] SEIC Spreadsheet - v3 - Page 11

Kissmyaxe · 05/14/09, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Ferala

It doesnt know about (the procs of) my trinkets right? (Dying Curse, Sundial of the Exiled)

Since the spreadsheet has no idea what gear you have, it obviously does not know which trinkets you use.
You are suppose to calculate the values for the stats of the trinket (spell power, crit, haste, etc) and add those to the total stats you plug in.
If it helps, check the fields from the trinkets in the spreadsheet since it shows how to figure average values for procs (eg. Dying Curse has a 765 SP proc, that is up for 10 seconds with a 1 min internal cooldown, therefor you can value it at 765*10/60 = 127.5 SP).

ellotheth · 05/14/09, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ferala

But does anyone know a website/addon that lets me dress up my char with any gear just so i get easy access to the base stats required to enter in this nice addon?

CharDev

clanofmiller · 05/14/09, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ferala

But does anyone know a website/addon that lets me dress up my char with any gear just so i get easy access to the base stats required to enter in this nice addon?

http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t21713-r...leased_1_30_a/

Originally Posted by Ferala

My base spell (character sheet) = 1934, bonus is 171, buffs = 638. This gives a total of 2743.
But my total spell damage in raid is always 2780.

I assume you have the Mixology - Spell - World of Warcraft skill as an alchemist ...

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Flashy!

Ferala · 05/14/09, 4:05 PM

Thanx!

Ferala · 05/14/09, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by clanofmiller

I assume you have the Mixology - Spell - World of Warcraft skill as an alchemist ...

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Flashy!

How does that exactly explain my difference in spell? I thought it only lenghtened the effect of flasks.

Shkarn · 05/14/09, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ferala

How does that exactly explain my difference in spell? I thought it only lenghtened the effect of flasks.

It increases the bonus, as well - not just the duration. [Flask of the Frost Wyrm] gives 162 spell power with Mixology, which is a 37 spell power gain over the standard 125 bonus of the flask.

Ferala · 05/14/09, 6:50 PM

Ah i just read: Gives 162 Spellpower. A 29.6% increase over the base 125 Spellpower.

My tooltip never showed this to me, it had to be read from the real increase. A bit annoying that tooltips usually do not reflect true values.

Lon · 05/14/09, 9:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ferala

I very well see your point and you are right to do so.

But does anyone know a website/addon that lets me dress up my char with any gear just so i get easy access to the base stats required to enter in this nice addon?

There are two sites that immediately spring to mind:

Warcrafter and chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

These should allow you to do some gear shuffling and work out the best combination.

drock903 · 05/15/09, 6:54 PM

how can flow of knowledge and sundial both have a value of 182 (no hit) when their proc is the same, but sundial has the benefit of 84 crit rating?

Fokui · 05/15/09, 7:08 PM

It's because Bink probably didn't remember to change it, on the initial screenshots the flow of knowledge had the EXACT same stats as sundial but then when the patch went live they removed the crit and changed it to resilience.

Ferala · 05/17/09, 2:50 PM

Why doesnt the dps change if you fill in Hit rating 0 or Hit Rating 1000?

Does it assume you have max HR?

Binkenstein · 05/17/09, 5:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ferala

Why doesnt the dps change if you fill in Hit rating 0 or Hit Rating 1000?

Does it assume you have max HR?

Yes, it does.

Binkenstein · 05/18/09, 5:14 AM

3.1.2.15: Changes to stat comparison tool, adjustments to LO calcs and a few other tweaks.

Ferala · 05/18/09, 6:07 AM

I am using one of the tools you guys suggested (warcrafter) to get the base stats.

I am wondering about 1 of my trinkets. Sundial of the Exiled.

The 84 crit is already covered in the base stats, but te proc (590SP*10/60) isnt.
Would it be correct to add 98 to the potions column in the Spell row?

My potion column is already the sum of food + flask + alchemy buff. The explanation behind this number is getting a bit obfuscated now. Wouldn't it be clearer to have 2 cells for depspell for trinket that isnt already covered in base stats?

p.s. I have only valorous items atm but i have the tokens for conqueror (still deciding to buy elem or resto). The sheet says my dps would go 700 up if i take elem gear. Tempting.

Mann� · 05/19/09, 1:03 AM

Hi there, you weighted haste lot more compared to your last version, almost as equal as spellpower now, how come?

Thanks, Mann�*