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Old 12/15/08, 11:30 AM   #51
Durnitol
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From Ghostcrawler:
Q u o t e:
Other theories I've heard include concern that Shaman were totally abandoning HW since LHW was so much more efficient with glyphs, crit.



This was the issue. It wasn't a healer niche problem at all. Shamans were just abandoning Healing Wave to cast Lesser Healing Wave since it was more efficient for procing Improved Water Shield, which felt weird.
To reiterate, I actually don't mind altering the proc rate of IWS to be equal between HW and LHW. This seems a like a perfectly legitimate balance. What bugs me is the above quote.

As for the T7 4 pc bonus, you shouldn't just abandon it. I agree that the other pieces are generally better so long as you won't miss the bonus. However, if there is a fight where you are guaranteed to have chain heal as 50% or greater of your effective, you are better off with T7 x 4. What I was saying about crit and Chain heal before I should probably clarify:

Don't sacrifice haste, SP, Int, or MP5 for crit if you plan on Chain Healing your way to the top of a recount meter. Crit has a use but generally not for that spell. Larger CH's are fine, but not at the sacrifice of faster or more efficient.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 7:17 AM   #52
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Stacking crit for chain heals just feels like a bad idea to me.

Assuming a 50% crit rate (before talents) on your glyphed Chain Heals, with 0 haste and 2200 SP, your total effective throughput would be 9 480 every 2.5 seconds, or 3 792 HPS.

Assuming a 0% crit rate (before talents) on your glyphed Chain Heals, with 400 haste and 2200 SP, your total effective throughput would change to 7 684 every 2.0 seconds, or 3 842 HPS. (~2% improvement)

Haste is also easier to get on our current gear; even considering mana efficiency from water shield procs (from other heals), I don't see why a resto shaman would want to gem / enchant / match sockets for crit over haste / intel / SP. The raw crit provided by our talents and through the obscene amounts of intellect that we stack should be more than enough.

[e] After some thought, perhaps crit would become useful in a dual wield (ELx2) build? I don't remember what the consensus was about the viability of a dual EL chain heal build, if there ever was one?

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Old 12/23/08, 1:18 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by locriani View Post
Stacking crit for chain heals just feels like a bad idea to me.
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even considering mana efficiency from water shield procs,
I'm not sure if I'm tired and totally missed that you stopped talking about CH, but just for the record it doesn't trigger WS procs.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 5:16 PM   #54
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Sorry, I'm the one who was too tired. I should have made it a bit more clear that I stopped talking about CH. Edited my original post.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 9:55 PM   #55
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You might not want to gem/enchant/socket specifically for crit, but look at [Girdle of the Gambit] and [Girdle of Recuperation] and then ask yourself which one you'd want to use for current raiding.
With some gearing choices you can go for crit without sacrificing much.
 
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Old 12/26/08, 12:12 AM   #56
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I know this might be alittle out of context but I was wondering about minimal stats for naxx 10 and 25. I could not find any other information about this and I am a little lost as I am a new healer. Could anyone tell me and estimate mana, sp, crit etc that is needed for a shaman to successfully heal naxx?
 
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Old 12/26/08, 12:28 AM   #57
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Originally Posted by unknownk View Post
I know this might be alittle out of context but I was wondering about minimal stats for naxx 10 and 25. I could not find any other information about this and I am a little lost as I am a new healer. Could anyone tell me and estimate mana, sp, crit etc that is needed for a shaman to successfully heal naxx?
This is a dumb question, but since it's Christmas instead of infracting it and throwing it away, I'll explain why it's dumb. I healed Naxx 10 and 25 in Lvl 70 elemental shaman gear.
 
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Old 01/09/09, 9:04 PM   #58
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I'd be interested in hearing what weapon you would be using in your off hand, given the fact that (as far as i can tell) all caster weapons are MH only.
 
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Old 01/10/09, 2:49 AM   #59
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[Librarian's Paper Cutter] is cheap (~150g, depending on your server), itemized well for healing (crit + haste), and is readily available.
 
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Old 01/25/09, 4:54 PM   #60
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I don't know if this has already been pointed out or mention earlier in this thread but in certain fights such as Kel'thuzad we have a shaman in my guild that has 25% crit and strictly sticks to using LHW/RT and this person tops the charts. Then again if people were positioned right in that fight chain heal would not hit more than 1 target.
 
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