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Old 01/07/09, 3:48 PM   #26
sophey
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Originally Posted by panny View Post
If you (or anyone else) has some good spelldamage gear, I'd love to see some parses with double [Brunnhildar Axe] FB/FT. With my current gear (4pcT7), these axes are something like 300 DPS more than my [Kel'Thuzad's Reach], which is rather hilarious.
You can't realistically use the [Brunnhildar Axe]. The limiting factor is that the threat reduction granted by Spirit Weapons only applies to melee attacks. Last night, myself and another enhance played around with them and even just using it as an OH we often found ourselves in a position were we dangerously close to the tank in threat going all out, to the point that we did less DPS on Patchwerk than we do with our normal weapons because we kept having to run out to keep from getting clobbered. They are really fun to play with, but in all likelihood they will be fixed/changed soon enough to not work the way they do now. Either because of threat or mechanic change, they aren't really a serious long-term viable OH.
 
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Old 01/07/09, 4:01 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by sophey View Post
You can't realistically use the [Brunnhildar Axe]. The limiting factor is that the threat reduction granted by Spirit Weapons only applies to melee attacks. Last night, myself and another enhance played around with them and even just using it as an OH we often found ourselves in a position were we dangerously close to the tank in threat going all out, to the point that we did less DPS on Patchwerk than we do with our normal weapons because we kept having to run out to keep from getting clobbered. They are really fun to play with, but in all likelihood they will be fixed/changed soon enough to not work the way they do now. Either because of threat or mechanic change, they aren't really a serious long-term viable OH.
According to wowhead, blizz hot-fixed this bug this morning. Can anyone confirm? I was looking forward to having some fun with it...
 
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Old 01/07/09, 5:14 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by jonnaei View Post
According to wowhead, blizz hot-fixed this bug this morning. Can anyone confirm? I was looking forward to having some fun with it...
Hitting the dummy just now it doesn't appear to be double-proccing imbues.

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Old 01/07/09, 5:18 PM   #29
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The EnhSim simulations I've done (using chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x as a sandbox for figuring out BiS gear) have shown that WD/WD with FT/FT comes out as higher DPS (by I believe 87) than CG/WD with WF/FT. However, the sim has not been updated to for the new version of the Windfury Glyph, so it's possible that CG/WD will come out ahead. I'm not very good with napkin math, only simming, so I can't provide any sort of math along those lines, but perhaps more testing with WD/WD vs. CG/WD would be worthwhile.

Additionally, if we had some sort of realistic way to "optimize" our gear a la Rawr this would be more worthwhile. For example, haste shines with WD/WD. But would stacking, say, AP and Crit with CG/WD or even CG/AD be better than stacking haste with WD/WD? What can we do short of testing everything manually (which I do plan to do.. chardev.org makes it a bit easier, but it's still a nuisance)?

As a last thought, I wonder if a WD/WD with FT/FT setup would necessitate maxed expertise. Time to test!

A note about chardev.org: if you're a draenei, it adds the 1% hit from your racial bonus and the 6% hit from your talents to the character sheet.

For reference, here is the Best In Slot set I came up with using chardev.org and the associated sim config:

chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         150
max_lag                         150
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  32
ep_hit_rating                   -32
ep_expertise                    -4
ep_haste_rating                 32
ep_armor_penetration_rating     32
ep_spellpower                   38
ep_dps                          0
ep_mana                         0
ep_spirit                       0
ep_mp5                          0

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    2
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       1500
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         6
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              LL
rotation_priority5              SR
rotation_priority6              LS

miss                            9.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        25.0
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                10.0/10.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         5.0/5.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1

water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        1.4
oh_speed                        1.4
mh_dps                          156.4
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         32.81
oh_crit                         32.81
mh_hit                          11.55
oh_hit                          11.55
mh_expertise_rating             216
oh_expertise_rating             216
ap                              3781
haste                           6.74
armor_penetration               0.00
str                             131
agi                             892
int                             541
spi                             153
spellpower                      1134
spell_crit                      24.63
spell_hit                       13.19
max_mana                        10986
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        flametongue
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    lightning_shield
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    flametongue_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             4/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  0/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

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Old 01/07/09, 5:34 PM   #30
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Rewrite 1.1 (Added Searing Totem):

Based on the gear below, I've compiled the following simmed DPS. For the purpose of this thread, I'm ignoring racials and professions. I'll have a personal build slightly different as my character is a Draenai. I don't normally have any issues with mana, so I disabled that level of the sim. I did not factor any lag in as well either, as it will scale evenly regardless.

CG/AD: 5271.68 DPS (Minor EP affinity for haste)
CG/SR: 5291.00 DPS (AP edges out on the EP scale)
CG/WD: 5308.10 DPS (Major EP for Haste: over 2.5, crit also slightly outpaces AP, spellpower also higher than AP)

(Edit)
Adding Searing Totem
CG/AD: 5600.22 DPS (AP top barely)
CG/SR: 5619.61 DPS (AP on top)
CG/WD: 5638.71 DPS (Haste still out front)

The main issue brought about by this is the heavy bonus for adding haste to the Webbed Death, which may lead to some interesting gear decisions. My numbers seem a little low, so if you come across something I'm missing or an error in the config, please let me know so I can adjust things.

Edit: Part of the odd gearing issues with CG/WD include the Meteorite Whetstone simming higher than Darkmoon Crusade card, slightly, but still higher. The Whetstone simmed over 20 DPS higher when replacing the Mirror of Truth.

Slightly updated loadout, used standard bracer enchant: chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x
Just cycle through the weapons to view new stats and adjust as necessary to account for the site's miscalculations.

Enhsim Config w/WD:
simulation_time                 10000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   5
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      0
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         6
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              ES
rotation_priority4              ST
rotation_priority5              LS
rotation_priority6              LL

miss                            9.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        25.0
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            fish_feast
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.4
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         32.89
oh_crit                         32.89
mh_hit                          11.28
oh_hit                          11.28
mh_expertise_rating             216
oh_expertise_rating             216
ap                              3783
haste                           4
armor_penetration               0
str                             131
agi                             921
int                             471
spi                             155
spellpower                      1142
spell_crit                      23.95
spell_hit                       14.1
max_mana                        11000
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           totem_of_dueling

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    lightning_shield

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             3/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      2/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5

Last edited by Xieon : 01/08/09 at 3:55 PM. Reason: First post was garbage
 
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Old 01/07/09, 5:41 PM   #31
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Could you provide which gearset that is? I've been going through using chardev trying to find the best one, and yours easily comes out 200-250 DPS ahead of my supposed BiS set.

Edit: hrm, nevermind, I bet it's cause I'm using a base 150-150 ms lag range.

Edit the second: nope, even that doesn't account for all of it. I'm really curious to see the setup you're using.

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Old 01/07/09, 6:49 PM   #32
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Hey all. So lemme just throw something out there...

In the PTR patch notes: "Lava Lash - Fixed a bug which allowed you to use the ability even if you had a shield in offhand. Now requires a 1hand axe, fist or dagger to be able to be used."

So yeah... I am assuming that they just forgot Maces... Otherwise those of us with AD are kinda outta luck. ;_;

^.^ any thoughts?
 
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Old 01/07/09, 7:26 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Skuld View Post
Hey all. So lemme just throw something out there...

In the PTR patch notes: "Lava Lash - Fixed a bug which allowed you to use the ability even if you had a shield in offhand. Now requires a 1hand axe, fist or dagger to be able to be used."

So yeah... I am assuming that they just forgot Maces... Otherwise those of us with AD are kinda outta luck. ;_;

^.^ any thoughts?
Testing on PTR shows that maces can still be used with LL, so likely a typo in the patch notes.

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Old 01/07/09, 7:44 PM   #34
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With a couple hours of playing around with the sim trying different gear combination I came up with chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x.
I got around 5720 dps with this setup and about 5650ish with dual WB/WB and flametongue/flametongue

here's the config
simulation_time                 2000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         250
max_lag                         350
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           64
ep_crit_rating                  46
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating     15
ep_spellpower                   28
ep_dps                          10.0
ep_mana                         200
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         7
rotation_priority1              MW5_LB
rotation_priority2              ES
rotation_priority3              SS
rotation_priority4              LS
rotation_priority5              ST
rotation_priority6              LL
rotation_priority7              SR

miss                            9.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        25.00
armor                           13083
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor              1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff   2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   52/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            dalaran_clam_chowder
misc_item                       -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        1.4
mh_dps                          171.3
oh_dps                          156.4
mh_crit                         35.24
oh_crit                         35.24
mh_hit                          10.52
oh_hit                          10.52
mh_expertise_rating             216
oh_expertise_rating             216
ap                              3751
haste                           2.53
armor_penetration               4
str                             131
agi                             945
int                             470
spi                             155
spellpower                      1124
spell_crit                      26
spell_hit                       13.15
max_mana                        11166
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      berserking
oh_enchant                      berserking

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        mirror_of_truth
trinket2                        darkmoon_card_greatness

totem                           totem_of_hex

set_bonus                       naxx_melee_4

metagem                         relentless_earthsiege_diamond

glyph_major1                    windfury_weapon
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    flametongue_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                1/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  5/5
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   2/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 1/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/5
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/5
 
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Old 01/07/09, 7:58 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Annearchy View Post
Testing on PTR shows that maces can still be used with LL, so likely a typo in the patch notes.

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Old 01/07/09, 8:14 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Tronso View Post
With a couple hours of playing around with the sim trying different gear combination I came up with chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x.
I got around 5720 dps with this setup and about 5650ish with dual WB/WB and flametongue/flametongue

here's the config
Should we be assuming JC? I guess the same goes for my config.. should we be assuming LW?
 
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Old 01/07/09, 10:07 PM   #37
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Since you'd really just be increasing your AP in all likelihood from those professions I don't think it matters much, as Attack Power and Spell Power aren't really going to have an effect on any of the various feedback cycles like weapon speed, haste and crit do. It would increase the DPS in sims, but its not going to change the dynamic of the stat interaction as long as all you care about is the relative results.

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Old 01/07/09, 11:27 PM   #38
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Malan, my only purpose in asking is things like the +27 hit and +27 expertise JC gems. Arguably they allow JC'ers to pick up different "best in slot" pieces because they can get their hit/expertise in different places. If we're looking for a true "best in slot" set, well .. perhaps that's meant for a different thread, though.
 
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Old 01/08/09, 4:33 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Xieon View Post
- Reconstructing post... ran out of time at the office.

Current loadout, requires checking - chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x
That looks about right for a BiS plan.

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Old 01/08/09, 11:20 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by Xoya View Post
A note about chardev.org: if you're a draenei, it adds the 1% hit from your racial bonus and the 6% hit from your talents to the character sheet.
Also note that chardev has a wrong formula for agility->crit chance.
 
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Old 01/08/09, 12:36 PM   #41
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I finally got back to rewriting my original post. My numbers seem low, so any input is appreciated.

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Old 01/08/09, 1:52 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Xieon View Post
I finally got back to rewriting my original post. My numbers seem low, so any input is appreciated.
Searing totem is left out of the rotation and under buffs, attack power multiplier should be left unchecked if specced for unleashed rage
I got the highest dps from using the following rotation priority MW5_LB > ES > SS > ST > LS > LL

also I got higher dps by switching the totem of dueling to the totem of hex with the final result being 5648.72

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Old 01/08/09, 2:21 PM   #43
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That's a glaring omission on my part. I'm trained to drop Flametounge as we have no Elemental. I'll re-run with that addition. Totem of Hex was a surprise to me though.
 
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Old 01/08/09, 3:25 PM   #44
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Wait, Searing Totem is an option in the sim? I figured ... wow, I'm dumb. *sigh* Right then. That explains the lost DPS. Fixing.
 
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Old 01/08/09, 5:23 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Tronso View Post
With a couple hours of playing around with the sim trying different gear combination I came up with chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x.
I got around 5720 dps with this setup and about 5650ish with dual WB/WB and flametongue/flametongue

here's the config
I just simmed 20`000h with chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x (my gear wishlist) and the sim is saying 5893.52dps. :o
 
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Old 01/08/09, 6:16 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by kristaps View Post
I just simmed 20`000h with chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x (my gear wishlist) and the sim is saying 5893.52dps. :o
20k h with >chardev template< gives 6200.46dps. are there any mistakes? some improvement ideas?

config:

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 6
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 0

ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20

mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000

rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 SS
rotation_priority3 ES
rotation_priority4 LL
rotation_priority5 LS
rotation_priority6 SR
rotation_priority7 ST

miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 10850
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance
shadow_resistance

armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 0/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60

replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1

flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food snapper_extreme
misc_item -
//edit wrong talentbuild in chardev. 3 in ancestral knowledge, none in imp. shield,
 
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Old 01/08/09, 6:19 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Mjoedvitnir View Post
20k h with >chardev template< gives 6200.46dps. are there any mistakes? some improvement ideas?
Bosses have 13083 armor.

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Old 01/08/09, 6:27 PM   #48
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Bosses have 13083 armor.
arrrrrr..... seems that i loaded an older config -.- well, that means 5889.59 dps, sh**.
 
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Old 01/08/09, 9:51 PM   #49
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Has anyone ever tryed [Haunting Call] and [Webbed Death] with FT/FT

Since WD+WD was a thing to talk about, I figure 1.80 Delay BUT 461 Spellpower and 1,7% Hit might also do it.
It would be great if someone with more experience could put this throu a Sim.

[Torch of Holy Fire] might also be anoption if this way proves.

[Edit: wrong item, I overlooked that The Turning Tide is a sword...]

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Old 01/08/09, 9:53 PM   #50
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[The Turning Tide] is a sword.
 
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