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01/26/09, 2:50 AM
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#101
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Von Kaiser
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I know the thread has been derailed more than a little, but did anyone run the sims for the table that was setup in the original post? I would really like to see the results. It seemed like there was a general consensus on a working BiS setup. Generally it seems that Webbed Death was the best option, and my own simulations from a few weeks ago showed as much, was just looking for some confirmation.
Levva if there are real results, could you update the original post?
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Elemental Shaman: You're OOM.
Enhancement Shaman: So are you.
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01/27/09, 9:11 PM
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#102
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Glass Joe
Orc Shaman
Gorgonnash (EU)
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I just simmed with the new version and here are the results:
Webbed Death (156.6/1.4): 5707 DPS
Noth Kolben (156.6/2.5): 5678 DPS
Sinnisters Rache (171.3/1.8): 5676 DPS
Die Hand Nerubs (156.6/1.6): 5680 DPS
This sim is just with my own gear and varies with gear differences of course.
Long story short:
WD is the Best OH! It doesnt really matter though which weapon you take - the differences are rather small. (within 25 dps)
Just take what you can get ahold of
PS:
I spent quite some time on configuring enhsim correctly - after using the new version with exported (SAA) data.
Some things are obvoius to correct, like weapon DPS, or Raid buffs, or OH buff.
What took me a while to figure out are the following ones:
- Make sure the enhsim.exe points to the correct file (if you have a seperate program folder for the updated version)
- Spellpower (make sure the 274 SP from flametongue are not added - enhim adds it itself by chosing the weapon imbue)
- Set bonus (not set by default or recognized by SAA)
- Rotation (Kick FS out and add ST with lowest prio) EDIT: Since 3.0.8, use MT!
- Set consumables
- Simulate Mana (add SR to the prio list or disable it)
I hope this helps maybe others who start over with new simulations.
Used config
Last edited by Sprinter : 02/05/09 at 5:56 PM.
Reason: corrected Simming
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01/28/09, 8:07 AM
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#103
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sprinter
Webbed Death (156.6/1.4): 5707 DPS
Noth Kolben (156.6/2.5): 5678 DPS
Sinnisters Rache (171.3/1.8): 5676 DPS
Die Hand Nerubs (156.6/1.6): 5680 DPS
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Not a huge deal but the weapons in ascending order are Webbed Death, Angry Dread, Sinister Revenge, Hand of Nerub when translated (I'm sure we all knew by their dps/speed, but this is just to ensure no confusion).
Originally Posted by Sprinter
WD is the Best OH! It doesnt really matter though which weapon you take - the differences are rather small. (within 25 dps)
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I believe for certain min/max'ers it will be a big deal. Also there was a standard config file of an accepted BiS set. To my knowledge this was the config.txt of the new EnhSim build. This would be the set to which tests should be applied in order to conclude this thread as we all know:
Originally Posted by Sprinter
This sim is just with my own gear and varies with gear differences of course.
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I was unable to access your config file, could you please re-post it using the code function such that we might peruse your data set for empirical value.
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01/28/09, 10:30 AM
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#104
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Glass Joe
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Using the base config.txt found in the new EnhSim build and chardev.org, I ran sim's of the aforementioned weapons. As in the config.txt that was supplied using the BiS gear derived within this thread, the haste percent used in the simulations was taken from the spell haste field of chardev.org. I made no changes to gear, gems, or enchants for any weapon substitution -- no matter how great the value of hit or expertise over their respective caps. I am most certain that you might be able to tweak each OH to gain a bit more out of it with a few minor tweaks to gems the one that comes to mind that would see the greatest benefit would be Split Greathammer as this puts you 9pts over the expertise cap.
For each trial Fish Feast and Flask of Endless Rage were used. No Haste pots were used and the build contained UR (see config files for more info on spec). The attack priority was highest when in the following order and was used as such: MW5_LB, ES, SS, LS, ST, LL. SR. Mana simulation was turned off for these trials.
NAME Type Speed DPS
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Webbed Death Dagger 1.4 5833.44
Angry Dread 1h Mace 2.5 5820.40
Split Greathammer 1h Mace 1.6 5815.45**
Hand of Nerub Fist 1.6 5810.54
Split Greathammer 1h Mace 1.6 5787.16
Sinister Revenge Dagger 1.8 5773.34
Anarchy Dagger 1.8 5765.11
The Stray Fist 2.6 5746.79
Murder Dagger 1.5 5742.75
Twilight Mist Dagger 1.8 5707.47
**Previously mentioned this weapon exceeds the expertise cap, as such, I added a 16AP/+8Crit for yellow meta requirement and 32AP into a free red slot in place of an expertise gem bringing the overall expertise to 26. This was done out of curiosity.
Attached are the config files for each run in order of their listing in the table.
Webbed Death Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.4
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.4
mh_crit 33.02
oh_crit 33.02
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3693
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 923
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1108
spell_crit 24.05
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Webbed Death Results

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MH:
miss 4456794 8.99%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12367871 24.95%
hit 8531198 17.21%
crit 24212601 48.85%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.02%
procs/swings 16.63%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9252835 48.23%
crit 9932771 51.77%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3925866 48.36%
crit 4192012 51.64%
OH:
miss 8270597 9.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 22949292 24.97%
hit 15816050 17.21%
crit 44857139 48.81%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 58006286 56.90%
crit 43929528 43.10%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3923828 48.34%
crit 4194050 51.66%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6195462 56.89%
crit 4695009 43.11%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4912521 48.18%
crit 5282934 51.82%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5764974 56.90%
crit 4367308 43.10%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 11363575 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 45.95
flurry uptime 87.80%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.00%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.75%
oh enchant uptime 27.27%
trinket1 uptime 20.99%
trinket2 uptime 32.63%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 35.02 39.25%
replenishment 34.26 38.40%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.47 10.62%
shamanistic rage 10.47 11.73%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1794.03 30.75% 117.88
windfury 855.22 14.66% 7.99
flametongue 700.82 12.01% 84.95
stormstrike 285.04 4.89% 6.76 37.27 25.34%
lava lash 102.79 1.76% 8.50 17.02 11.57%
searing totem 344.95 5.91% 1.09 5.24 3.56%
earth shock 605.12 10.37% 9.08 37.16 25.26%
lightning bolt 822.33 14.1% 8.44 50.41 34.27%
lightning shield 323.14 5.54% 1.05 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5833.44
MPS 147.10
MP2min 17652.46
MRPS 93.11
Out of mana time 0.02%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 53.05s
simulation speed: 1357133x
Angry Dread Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 2.5
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.6
mh_crit 32.84
oh_crit 32.84
mh_hit 12.01
oh_hit 12.01
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3701
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 911
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1110
spell_crit 24.01
spell_hit 15.13
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Angry Dread Results

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MH:
miss 4480896 8.98%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12453398 24.97%
hit 8663741 17.37%
crit 24275388 48.67%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.01%
procs/swings 16.62%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9322901 48.35%
crit 9958771 51.65%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3945535 48.50%
crit 4188986 51.50%
OH:
miss 4659816 8.98%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12952850 24.97%
hit 9015299 17.38%
crit 25248908 48.67%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 37302931 56.96%
crit 28181859 43.04%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3941386 48.45%
crit 4193135 51.55%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6164060 56.95%
crit 4658634 43.05%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4895516 48.31%
crit 5237696 51.69%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6109533 56.93%
crit 4621457 43.07%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 9330608 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 49.01
flurry uptime 89.98%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.83%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.89%
oh enchant uptime 32.33%
trinket1 uptime 20.69%
trinket2 uptime 32.47%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 34.89 35.72%
replenishment 34.13 34.95%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.10 9.32%
shamanistic rage 19.55 20.02%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1809.00 31.08% 84.79
windfury 860.78 14.79% 8.03
flametongue 548.84 9.43% 54.57
stormstrike 332.97 5.72% 6.78 37.35 24.96%
lava lash 182.79 3.14% 8.44 16.83 11.25%
searing totem 345.58 5.94% 1.08 5.22 3.49%
earth shock 602.02 10.34% 9.02 36.88 24.65%
lightning bolt 872.52 14.99% 8.94 53.34 35.65%
lightning shield 265.89 4.57% 0.86 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5820.40
MPS 149.61
MP2min 17953.79
MRPS 107.05
Out of mana time 0.04%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 50.87s
simulation speed: 1415511x
Split Greathammer Config (**Modified BiS)

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.6
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.6
mh_crit 33.16
oh_crit 33.16
mh_hit 11.1
oh_hit 11.1
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3741
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 923
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1122
spell_crit 24.18
spell_hit 13.87
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Split Greathammer Results (**Modified BiS)

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MH:
miss 4896694 9.86%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12386142 24.95%
hit 8038395 16.19%
crit 24316752 48.99%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.06%
procs/swings 16.53%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9171898 48.04%
crit 9918614 51.96%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3913369 48.18%
crit 4209047 51.82%
OH:
miss 7981140 9.88%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 20161968 24.96%
hit 13079375 16.19%
crit 39560410 48.97%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 51738458 56.78%
crit 39380863 43.22%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3911870 48.16%
crit 4210546 51.84%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6182162 56.80%
crit 4701758 43.20%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4899356 48.06%
crit 5295796 51.94%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5775716 56.77%
crit 4397942 43.23%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10720940 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.19
flurry uptime 88.28%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.15%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.57%
oh enchant uptime 28.00%
trinket1 uptime 20.91%
trinket2 uptime 32.58%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 35.01 38.96%
replenishment 34.25 38.11%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.26 10.30%
shamanistic rage 11.35 12.63%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1800.01 30.95% 108.68
windfury 856.63 14.73% 7.95
flametongue 654.57 11.26% 75.93
stormstrike 295.87 5.09% 6.77 37.29 25.33%
lava lash 118.34 2.03% 8.50 17.00 11.55%
searing totem 346.99 5.97% 1.09 5.24 3.56%
earth shock 607.10 10.44% 9.07 37.08 25.19%
lightning bolt 829.85 14.27% 8.48 50.60 34.37%
lightning shield 306.09 5.26% 0.99 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5815.45
MPS 147.21
MP2min 17665.79
MRPS 94.30
Out of mana time 0.02%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 56.71s
simulation speed: 1269594x
Hand of Nerub Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.6
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.6
mh_crit 32.86
oh_crit 32.86
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3703
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 913
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1111
spell_crit 24.01
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Hand of Nerub Results

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MH:
miss 4462300 8.99%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12379172 24.95%
hit 8623132 17.38%
crit 24144201 48.67%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.03%
procs/swings 16.63%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9290919 48.38%
crit 9913403 51.62%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3940084 48.51%
crit 4181325 51.49%
OH:
miss 7269849 9.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 20167599 24.98%
hit 14026594 17.37%
crit 39271139 48.64%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 52255764 56.94%
crit 39516475 43.06%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3934813 48.45%
crit 4186596 51.55%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6197166 56.97%
crit 4681355 43.03%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4926072 48.36%
crit 5259426 51.64%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5830421 56.91%
crit 4414513 43.09%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10783174 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.54
flurry uptime 88.07%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.12%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.81%
oh enchant uptime 28.09%
trinket1 uptime 20.91%
trinket2 uptime 32.59%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 35.00 38.54%
replenishment 34.24 37.70%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.27 10.20%
shamanistic rage 12.31 13.55%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1797.47 30.93% 108.62
windfury 856.22 14.74% 8.00
flametongue 656.44 11.3% 76.48
stormstrike 293.79 5.06% 6.77 37.29 25.26%
lava lash 117.41 2.02% 8.49 16.99 11.51%
searing totem 345.28 5.94% 1.09 5.24 3.55%
earth shock 604.63 10.41% 9.07 37.12 25.15%
lightning bolt 832.31 14.32% 8.54 50.98 34.54%
lightning shield 306.99 5.28% 1.00 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5810.54
MPS 147.62
MP2min 17713.82
MRPS 95.64
Out of mana time 0.02%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 56.29s
simulation speed: 1279067x
Split Greathammer Config (Unmodified, exceeds EXP cap)

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.6
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.6
mh_crit 32.98
oh_crit 32.98
mh_hit 11.34
oh_hit 11.34
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3693
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 923
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1108
spell_crit 24.01
spell_hit 14.18
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Split Greathammer Results (Unmodified, exceeds EXP cap)

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MH:
miss 4773177 9.62%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12372047 24.93%
hit 8248267 16.62%
crit 24226817 48.82%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.04%
procs/swings 16.55%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9217352 48.23%
crit 9895122 51.77%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3930599 48.39%
crit 4191599 51.61%
OH:
miss 7780359 9.63%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 20156680 24.96%
hit 13415509 16.61%
crit 39401472 48.79%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 51984408 56.94%
crit 39304461 43.06%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3930380 48.39%
crit 4191818 51.61%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6196735 56.94%
crit 4685314 43.06%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4918628 48.25%
crit 5274382 51.75%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5801277 56.93%
crit 4388212 43.07%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10744291 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.27
flurry uptime 88.15%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.03%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.66%
oh enchant uptime 28.05%
trinket1 uptime 20.91%
trinket2 uptime 32.58%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 35.00 38.75%
replenishment 34.24 37.90%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.26 10.25%
shamanistic rage 11.84 13.10%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1789.56 30.92% 108.65
windfury 852.07 14.72% 7.96
flametongue 652.37 11.27% 76.07
stormstrike 293.66 5.07% 6.77 37.29 25.30%
lava lash 117.44 2.03% 8.49 17.01 11.54%
searing totem 344.93 5.96% 1.09 5.24 3.56%
earth shock 604.52 10.45% 9.07 37.14 25.20%
lightning bolt 826.96 14.29% 8.49 50.71 34.40%
lightning shield 305.65 5.28% 0.99 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5787.16
MPS 147.40
MP2min 17688.08
MRPS 94.88
Out of mana time 0.02%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 68.99s
simulation speed: 1043690x
Sinister Revenge Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.8
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 171.1
mh_crit 32.27
oh_crit 32.27
mh_hit 12.47
oh_hit 12.47
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3718
haste 4.27
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 916
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1115
spell_crit 24.01
spell_hit 15.59
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Sinister Revenge Results

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MH:
miss 4251821 8.51%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12461008 24.94%
hit 9221937 18.45%
crit 24036230 48.10%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 16.60%
procs/swings 15.38%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 8754124 48.97%
crit 9121442 51.03%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3994256 49.13%
crit 4136368 50.87%
OH:
miss 6154600 8.52%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 18042872 24.97%
hit 13323667 18.44%
crit 34734453 48.07%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 48074852 56.95%
crit 36340368 43.05%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3989639 49.07%
crit 4140985 50.93%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6188247 56.93%
crit 4681907 43.07%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4984356 48.94%
crit 5199248 51.06%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5885872 56.95%
crit 4449448 43.05%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10345202 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.97
flurry uptime 88.01%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.28%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.17%
oh enchant uptime 29.18%
trinket1 uptime 20.85%
trinket2 uptime 32.56%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 34.98 38.03%
replenishment 34.22 37.20%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.32 10.13%
shamanistic rage 13.47 14.64%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1826.48 31.64% 101.86
windfury 794.88 13.77% 7.45
flametongue 627.42 10.87% 70.35
stormstrike 303.74 5.26% 6.78 37.33 25.21%
lava lash 134.92 2.34% 8.49 16.97 11.46%
searing totem 345.80 5.99% 1.09 5.24 3.54%
earth shock 604.87 10.48% 9.06 37.10 25.06%
lightning bolt 840.39 14.56% 8.61 51.42 34.73%
lightning shield 294.85 5.11% 0.96 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5773.34
MPS 148.06
MP2min 17767.47
MRPS 97.30
Out of mana time 0.03%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 55.25s
simulation speed: 1303261x
Anarchy Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.8
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.4
mh_crit 32.18
oh_crit 32.18
mh_hit 12.19
oh_hit 12.19
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3699
haste 3.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 909
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1110
spell_crit 23.37
spell_hit 15.24
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Anarchy Results

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MH:
miss 4358835 8.79%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12369296 24.93%
hit 9096675 18.34%
crit 23783188 47.94%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 18.01%
procs/swings 16.65%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 9443569 49.12%
crit 9781255 50.88%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4002712 49.26%
crit 4122820 50.74%
OH:
miss 6286554 8.79%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 17855260 24.96%
hit 13111230 18.33%
crit 34276411 47.92%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 48105220 57.58%
crit 35437100 42.42%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 3999453 49.22%
crit 4126079 50.78%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6256898 57.59%
crit 4607549 42.41%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4993873 49.09%
crit 5180014 50.91%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5959200 57.57%
crit 4392017 42.43%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10340668 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 47.08
flurry uptime 88.05%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 78.65%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.85%
oh enchant uptime 29.13%
trinket1 uptime 20.85%
trinket2 uptime 32.55%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 34.97 37.35%
replenishment 34.21 36.54%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.32 9.96%
shamanistic rage 15.11 16.14%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1787.64 31.01% 100.95
windfury 852.57 14.79% 8.01
flametongue 617.24 10.71% 69.62
stormstrike 300.77 5.22% 6.77 37.31 25.11%
lava lash 131.21 2.28% 8.48 17.03 11.46%
searing totem 343.60 5.96% 1.09 5.23 3.52%
earth shock 600.99 10.42% 9.05 37.38 25.15%
lightning bolt 836.74 14.51% 8.63 51.66 34.76%
lightning shield 294.35 5.11% 0.96 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5765.11
MPS 148.60
MP2min 17832.35
MRPS 99.87
Out of mana time 0.03%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 54.23s
simulation speed: 1327678x
The Stray Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 2.6
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 143.5
mh_crit 32.1
oh_crit 32.1
mh_hit 12.16
oh_hit 12.16
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3682
haste 4.33
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 902
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1105
spell_crit 23.37
spell_hit 15.21
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
The Stray Results

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MH:
miss 4498435 8.83%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12723106 24.99%
hit 9345232 18.35%
crit 24352351 47.83%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 16.33%
procs/swings 15.08%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 8759921 49.18%
crit 9053635 50.82%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4013049 49.33%
crit 4122770 50.67%
OH:
miss 4485979 8.81%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12687275 24.92%
hit 9334824 18.33%
crit 24411046 47.94%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 37302347 57.60%
crit 27457354 42.40%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4009316 49.28%
crit 4126503 50.72%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6242320 57.57%
crit 4601460 42.43%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 5007818 49.14%
crit 5182919 50.86%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6170841 57.57%
crit 4547850 42.43%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 9258642 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 49.50
flurry uptime 94.86%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 79.25%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.11%
oh enchant uptime 33.19%
trinket1 uptime 20.67%
trinket2 uptime 32.44%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 34.89 34.69%
replenishment 34.12 33.93%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.08 9.03%
shamanistic rage 22.48 22.35%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1819.65 31.66% 84.87
windfury 787.99 13.71% 7.42
flametongue 548.55 9.55% 53.97
stormstrike 332.04 5.78% 6.78 37.35 24.84%
lava lash 185.49 3.23% 8.49 16.99 11.30%
searing totem 343.45 5.98% 1.08 5.23 3.48%
earth shock 599.75 10.44% 9.04 37.30 24.80%
lightning bolt 866.32 15.07% 8.93 53.49 35.57%
lightning shield 263.55 4.59% 0.86 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5746.79
MPS 150.36
MP2min 18043.23
MRPS 111.23
Out of mana time 0.04%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 48.67s
simulation speed: 1479502x
Murder Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.5
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.7
mh_crit 32.13
oh_crit 32.13
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3695
haste 4.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 905
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1109
spell_crit 23.37
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Murder Results

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MH:
miss 4483268 8.99%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12439805 24.96%
hit 9071287 18.20%
crit 23853361 47.85%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 16.69%
procs/swings 15.40%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 8782573 49.19%
crit 9073629 50.81%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4009828 49.33%
crit 4117950 50.67%
OH:
miss 7829110 9.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 21712481 24.96%
hit 15819720 18.19%
crit 41616782 47.85%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 56147109 57.60%
crit 41338272 42.40%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4008060 49.31%
crit 4119718 50.69%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6270667 57.56%
crit 4622744 42.44%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 5020748 49.18%
crit 5187872 50.82%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5848889 57.58%
crit 4308530 42.42%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 11066013 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.05
flurry uptime 87.06%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 78.37%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.07%
oh enchant uptime 27.70%
trinket1 uptime 20.95%
trinket2 uptime 32.61%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 35.00 38.28%
replenishment 34.24 37.44%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.34 10.22%
shamanistic rage 12.86 14.06%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1795.00 31.26% 114.02
windfury 790.45 13.76% 7.44
flametongue 679.90 11.84% 81.24
stormstrike 287.67 5.01% 6.77 37.32 25.23%
lava lash 109.54 1.91% 8.51 17.12 11.57%
searing totem 343.17 5.98% 1.09 5.25 3.55%
earth shock 602.22 10.49% 9.08 37.51 25.36%
lightning bolt 820.12 14.28% 8.46 50.72 34.29%
lightning shield 314.67 5.48% 1.02 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5742.75
MPS 147.91
MP2min 17748.89
MRPS 96.16
Out of mana time 0.03%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 62.40s
simulation speed: 1153790x
Twilight Mist Config

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 7
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
rotation_priority7 SR
miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 10.0/10.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food fish_feast
misc_item -
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### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
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race draenei
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.8
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.7
mh_crit 32.13
oh_crit 32.13
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3695
haste 4.54
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 905
int 470
spi 155
spellpower 1109
spell_crit 23.37
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Twilight Mist Results

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MH:
miss 4497921 9.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 12461671 24.95%
hit 9081812 18.18%
crit 23913468 47.87%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 16.63%
procs/swings 15.34%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 8766894 49.19%
crit 9055612 50.81%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4015224 49.36%
crit 4119104 50.64%
OH:
miss 6506907 9.01%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 18034488 24.97%
hit 13126078 18.18%
crit 34552373 47.84%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 48402972 57.59%
crit 35639325 42.41%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 4011474 49.32%
crit 4122854 50.68%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 6263220 57.58%
crit 4613920 42.42%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 5010257 49.14%
crit 5184773 50.86%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 5927857 57.58%
crit 4367550 42.42%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 10298003 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 46.78
flurry uptime 87.83%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 78.57%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 37.04%
oh enchant uptime 29.10%
trinket1 uptime 20.85%
trinket2 uptime 32.55%
totem uptime 0.00%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 34.98 37.50%
replenishment 34.21 36.69%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.31 9.98%
shamanistic rage 14.77 15.83%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc potion 0.00 0.00%
DPS PPM MPS
white 1796.24 31.47% 101.81
windfury 789.16 13.83% 7.43
flametongue 620.50 10.87% 70.04
stormstrike 300.64 5.27% 6.78 37.35 25.15%
lava lash 131.36 2.3% 8.50 17.07 11.50%
searing totem 343.43 6.02% 1.09 5.24 3.53%
earth shock 601.45 10.54% 9.06 37.44 25.21%
lightning bolt 831.69 14.57% 8.58 51.40 34.61%
lightning shield 292.99 5.13% 0.95 0.00 0.00%
DPS 5707.47
MPS 148.50
MP2min 17819.43
MRPS 99.07
Out of mana time 0.03%
elapsed simulation time: 20000.00h
elapsed real time: 51.74s
simulation speed: 1391653x
In conclusion as stated before this last WoW and EnhSim patch/build, Webbed Death is highest DPS with the standard BiS gear established in this thread. As always Sim everything to determine if it is right for you and your gear-set. But this is a decent guideline for OH's and provides a lot of insight into the co-variation of Stormstrike, Lava lash, Flametongue, and Lightning Shield with each other in regard to weapons speed, flurry mechanic, and stat weight/ilvl.
Please peruse and peer review these data as I am prone to typographical errors and other stupidities.
(e) I apologize, I just realized I ran them all with Draenei in the race field. Hopefully that doesn't skew the results too much. I am more that certain that the relative ranking of these OH's will remain the same though their calculated DPS difference will change slightly.
Last edited by Unsu : 01/28/09 at 10:54 AM.
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01/28/09, 3:12 PM
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#105
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Glass Joe
Orc Shaman
Gorgonnash (EU)
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Config DL Path corrected.
The DPS is overall ~100dps less compared to the default config used in the post above, when changing:
Totem of Hex, Combat Length of 3min, Same Priority
There is no change however to the BiS Weapon - WD.
Last edited by Sprinter : 01/29/09 at 2:40 AM.
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01/29/09, 12:29 PM
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#106
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Glass Joe
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I also simmed Angry Dead with my gear right now and getting lower numbers then with my Sinister's Revenge, and I found the Webbed Death is best in slot for me.
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02/02/09, 2:51 PM
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#107
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Glass Joe
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Not only does Webbed Death sim higher but, it's also worth pointing out that WD and other fast offhands are also "easier" dps. Because they rely more on flametongue, they are simply less dependent on things like latency or having a perfect rotation in general. If during the course of a fight you miss a LL or delay a MW_LB for any reason it will impact dps more with a slow OH than with a fast OH. This is testable in Enhsim, at 0ms latency 1.4 spd WD may come out ~30-50dps ahead of the 2.5 spd Angry Dread, but at 500ms WD should come out ~50-70dps ahead of AD.
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02/05/09, 9:38 PM
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#108
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Black Dragonflight
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Originally Posted by Psychodays
Not only does Webbed Death sim higher but, it's also worth pointing out that WD and other fast offhands are also "easier" dps. Because they rely more on flametongue, they are simply less dependent on things like latency or having a perfect rotation in general. If during the course of a fight you miss a LL or delay a MW_LB for any reason it will impact dps more with a slow OH than with a fast OH. This is testable in Enhsim, at 0ms latency 1.4 spd WD may come out ~30-50dps ahead of the 2.5 spd Angry Dread, but at 500ms WD should come out ~50-70dps ahead of AD.
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So you're basically saying for people who are "challenged" at the game, Fast OH's are a better alternative? Quite the compelling argument...
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02/07/09, 12:37 PM
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#109
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Windrunner
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:delete plz:
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02/08/09, 6:17 PM
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#110
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Von Kaiser
Tauren Shaman
Magtheridon (EU)
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Originally Posted by Neurosisxeno
So you're basically saying for people who are "challenged" at the game, Fast OH's are a better alternative? Quite the compelling argument...
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While this may be true, what he's also saying if you could actually read is that if you have abnormally high latency for whatever reason, a fast offhand does not penalize you as much as a slow offhand. Also, there are certain fights where no matter how good you are it is not possible to keep up a perfect rotation - usually because you have to divert your attention to running out of the fire or something equally as 'difficult'.
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02/08/09, 8:07 PM
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#111
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Deeper Shade of Blue
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Originally Posted by Lumb
While this may be true, what he's also saying if you could actually read is that if you have abnormally high latency for whatever reason, a fast offhand does not penalize you as much as a slow offhand. Also, there are certain fights where no matter how good you are it is not possible to keep up a perfect rotation - usually because you have to divert your attention to running out of the fire or something equally as 'difficult'.
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Actually that point requires a lot more testing to be conclusive. I can agree about the high latency, although the effect is minimal, but if you have to move alot then the slow weapon should be better.
This is because the slow weapon will have a significantly larger proc chance per hit with maelstrom weapon. Also the weapons will be "queued" for an instant autoattack hit the moment you get back into melee range and the slow one will do more damage in "jousting" type situations. Stormstrike and Lava Lash will also hit harder so as the instants increase as a percentage of your damage due to decreased time on the target so too will the value of the slower weapon.
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02/14/09, 5:39 PM
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#112
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Glass Joe
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I've recently been testing Librarian's Paper Cutter offhand with FT/FT build, EnhSim has been simming it within 5 dps of Webbed Death based on my stats, I assume due to it's extreme speed and the nearly ideal stats on it for the build. Was curious how it held up against the BIS list for the rest of you with your own simming.
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02/17/09, 10:24 AM
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#113
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Rounced
Actually that point requires a lot more testing to be conclusive. I can agree about the high latency, although the effect is minimal, but if you have to move alot then the slow weapon should be better.
This is because the slow weapon will have a significantly larger proc chance per hit with maelstrom weapon. Also the weapons will be "queued" for an instant autoattack hit the moment you get back into melee range and the slow one will do more damage in "jousting" type situations. Stormstrike and Lava Lash will also hit harder so as the instants increase as a percentage of your damage due to decreased time on the target so too will the value of the slower weapon.
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This is the main reason why I keep sticking to my AD and pass on WD all of the time.
I really don't want to waste all that g on zerking for ~20 more dps on patchwerk.
Last edited by Chinny : 02/18/09 at 6:09 AM.
Reason: typo
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02/17/09, 11:35 AM
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#114
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Tides
I've recently been testing Librarian's Paper Cutter offhand with FT/FT build, EnhSim has been simming it within 5 dps of Webbed Death based on my stats, I assume due to it's extreme speed and the nearly ideal stats on it for the build. Was curious how it held up against the BIS list for the rest of you with your own simming.
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Can you expand on this? What was your setup? Since you were doing FT/FT, I take it you were main handing WD with LPC in the OH?
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02/17/09, 12:29 PM
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#115
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Chongar
Can you expand on this? What was your setup? Since you were doing FT/FT, I take it you were main handing WD with LPC in the OH?
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I'd assume that it's as a replacement for WD in any similar situation... CG/LPC or Caster Weapon/LPC, etc. The Paper Cutter is a really good FT candidate due to it's 1.3 speed. While it may be a blue, it should sim out as a better OH than any 143 dps weapon, and give 155 dps weapons a run for their money.
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02/17/09, 2:19 PM
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#116
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Vulmir - Someday...
Draenei Shaman
Feathermoon
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Using both my current gear and the BiS gear that's been established in this thread, the Webbed Death sims higher. The Paper Cutter may be optimal for lower gearing levels, but it is not a candidate in the least at the end game, which is the original purpose of this thread. The LPC sims in at ~150-200 DPS below the Webbed Death dependant on gear.
If you run WF/FT, the top simmed damage based on this thread is from Calamity's Grasp and Webbed Death.
If you run FT/FT, the top simmed damage is the Torch of Holy Fire and Webbed Death.
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02/17/09, 5:28 PM
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#117
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Glass Joe
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I did a few sims on Calamity's Grasp vs Wraith Strike with Webbed Death as offhand using my generic BiS gear found at chardev.org - a World of Warcraft Character Planner - x
I swapped the 23 haste on the cloak with 22 agi because Wraith Strike was simming for more dps with the agi enchant, while both enchants simmed for about the same with Calamity's Grasp. I'm guessing its because with the haste on Wraith Strike + haste enchant, weapon speed was dropping below 1.5 speed.
I also changed the race in EnhSim from Draenei to Tauren so it wouldn't include the 1% hit from racial, and I changed Boss miss from 9% to 8%.
With lag set to: 0-0
Wraith Strike + Webbed Death with Magma totem : 6122.82
Wraith Strike + Webbed Death with Searing totem : 5977.88
Calamity's Grasp + Webbed Death with Magma totem: 6116.76
Calamity's Grasp + Webbed Death with Searing totem: 5957.05
With lag set to: 200-500
Wraith Strike + Webbed Death with Magma Totem : 5895.90
Wraith Strike + Webbed Death with Searing Totem : 5774.99
Calamity's Grasp + Webbed Death with Magma Totem: 5900.46
Calamity's Grasp + Webbed Death with Searing Totem: 5764.68
Here's My updated Config with Calamity's Grasp+Webbed Death

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 0
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 6
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES_SS
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
miss 8.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 0/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 0
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_speed
food fish_feast
misc_item -
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### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
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race tauren
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.4
mh_dps 171.3
oh_dps 156.4
mh_crit 33.29
oh_crit 33.29
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3715
haste 2.84
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 923
int 470
spi 153
spellpower 1115
spell_crit 24.05
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11166
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 stormstrike
glyph_major2 windfury_weapon
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
Config with Wraith Strike + Webbed Death

simulation_time 20000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 3
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0
simulate_mana 0
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0
ep_mana 200
ep_spirit 100
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 700
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 6
rotation_priority1 MW5_LB
rotation_priority2 ES_SS
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 LS
rotation_priority5 ST
rotation_priority6 LL
miss 8.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 13083
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 0/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 0
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_speed
food fish_feast
misc_item -
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
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race tauren
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 1.4
mh_dps 90.3
oh_dps 156.4
mh_crit 32.73
oh_crit 32.73
mh_hit 11.98
oh_hit 11.98
mh_expertise_rating 217
oh_expertise_rating 217
ap 3625
haste 3.42
armor_penetration 4
str 131
agi 887
int 514
spi 153
spellpower 1549
spell_crit 24.18
spell_hit 14.98
max_mana 11826
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant berserking
oh_enchant berserking
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 grim_toll
trinket2 darkmoon_card_greatness
totem totem_of_hex
set_bonus naxx_melee_4
metagem relentless_earthsiege_diamond
glyph_major1 stormstrike
glyph_major2 windfury_weapon
glyph_major3 lightning_shield
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 1/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5
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02/18/09, 6:14 AM
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#118
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Bloodscalp
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Well someone had to take the plunge. A while ago, in the other thread I said I'd try to post some real world numbers, so here they are. (Yeah yeah, in yet another thread, FT/FT vs WF/FT discussion spreading everywhere, blah blah. This thread is actually about comparing weapons, so here is my real world comparison in order to show fast weapon FT/FT's crazy scaling is more than just theorycraft. If it really bothers people that much that I post this here instead of cluttering up the forum with new threads then I just won't bother anymore.)
Weapon setup: Haunting Call (50 spell power), Webbed Death (Berserking)
Here are my Patchwerk and a Thaddius kills from last week. Currently Thaddius (10317 dps) is ranked at #3 dps for shaman on WMO, and Patchwerk (5503 dps) is not too far off the leader board all things considered.
However, before writing this off as 'not being the best', look at the other factors that make me feel this is worth looking at:
- Gear. Just in case you armory me, since those fights I have picked up a Blue Aspect Helmet (~180EP gain over t7.5), T7.5 gloves (~40EP over T7), and finally swallowed my pride and took the Wrymcrest Necklace of Power (~200EP over CoD) and I'm still a few slots behind the people ahead of me on the meters. I am still wearing a few pieces 10man gear and am far from BIS for example.
Note: Those EP values are based on the numbers I was seeing at the time of the upgrade. Haste was hypervalued for quite a while. I'm at the point where it's worth 3.4EP a point. However, I'm single digits away from having the valuing nosediving to 1.4EP. I suspect this has to do with static shock eating too many stormstrike charges.
- Fight length. We were months slow in putting together a 25 man guild and only now are getting well geared. As a result, fights are longer. Many of the Patchwerk fights on the leader board are a minute faster; that's almost half the fight duration. That is a massive difference in heroism/bloodlust/pot duration. One of the Thaddius fights was 50 seconds faster.
- Comparison to other classes in the raid. While the other people on the meter aren't setting any records, I believe that after you take gear level into account they are still a good comparison to 'normal' DPS. Believe what you will, but the other people in the guild aren't bad. Many frequent EJ, and some do experimentation of their own. Before TBC/WoTLK many were competitive with the top DPS of their classes at the time. Up until right now, thanks to a really good loot week after those kills, I had average gear amongst my guild.
I also might just be talking out of my ass here, but after the Thaddius fight while I was waiting for someone to inevitably post the meter (I just use statiscl and a guildmate uploads to WWS/WMO since I noticed Recount behaving strangely in FT/FT dummy tests) I was thinking that my DPS wouldn't be high and was unhappy with my performance. Without the meter I thought I could have had a substantial improvement. Still do. Especially with the new gear.
For more evidence of FT/FT's crazy scaling you can look at the Loatheb fight too I guess. I didn't post it because my spore spawned in the healers and they didn't' get out of the way so one stole my buff. As a result, my (and some other's) buff uptime is painfully low. Edit: Oh I remember part of the reason why now. I spent most of the time on the 11 debuff side.
As a small suffix: it is worth noting that threat (for the time being anyways) tends to be somewhat of an issue at times. Since Spirit Weapons doesn't effect much of your damage with this setup, I've (rarely) run into some situations where I've had to stop DPS because I was getting uncomfortably high (105%). That being said, if you can bribe one of your paladin friends to toss you a hand of salvation in an emergency, it's more than manageable.
Last edited by Paenor : 02/18/09 at 10:13 AM.
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02/18/09, 10:23 AM
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Shaman
Aerie Peak
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Originally Posted by Paenor
Well someone had to take the plunge. A while ago, in the other thread I said I'd try to post some real world numbers, so here they are. (Yeah yeah, in yet another thread, FT/FT vs WF/FT discussion spreading everywhere, blah blah. This thread is actually about comparing weapons, so here is my real world comparison in order to show fast weapon FT/FT's crazy scaling is more than just theorycraft. If it really bothers people that much that I post this here instead of cluttering up the forum with new threads then I just won't bother anymore.)
Weapon setup: Haunting Call (50 spell power), Webbed Death (Berserking)
Here are my Patchwerk and a Thaddius kills from last week. Currently Thaddius (10317 dps) is ranked at #3 dps for shaman on WMO, and Patchwerk (5503 dps) is not too far off the leader board all things considered.
However, before writing this off as 'not being the best', look at the other factors that make me feel this is worth looking at:
- Gear. Just in case you armory me, since those fights I have picked up a Blue Aspect Helmet (~180EP gain over t7.5), T7.5 gloves (~40EP over T7), and finally swallowed my pride and took the Wrymcrest Necklace of Power (~200EP over CoD) and I'm still a few slots behind the people ahead of me on the meters. I am still wearing a few pieces 10man gear and am far from BIS for example.
Note: Those EP values are based on the numbers I was seeing at the time of the upgrade. Haste was hypervalued for quite a while. I'm at the point where it's worth 3.4EP a point. However, I'm single digits away from having the valuing nosediving to 1.4EP. I suspect this has to do with static shock eating too many stormstrike charges.
- Fight length. We were months slow in putting together a 25 man guild and only now are getting well geared. As a result, fights are longer. Many of the Patchwerk fights on the leader board are a minute faster; that's almost half the fight duration. That is a massive difference in heroism/bloodlust/pot duration. One of the Thaddius fights was 50 seconds faster.
- Comparison to other classes in the raid. While the other people on the meter aren't setting any records, I believe that after you take gear level into account they are still a good comparison to 'normal' DPS. Believe what you will, but the other people in the guild aren't bad. Many frequent EJ, and some do experimentation of their own. Before TBC/WoTLK many were competitive with the top DPS of their classes at the time. Up until right now, thanks to a really good loot week after those kills, I had average gear amongst my guild.
I also might just be talking out of my ass here, but after the Thaddius fight while I was waiting for someone to inevitably post the meter (I just use statiscl and a guildmate uploads to WWS/WMO since I noticed Recount behaving strangely in FT/FT dummy tests) I was thinking that my DPS wouldn't be high and was unhappy with my performance. Without the meter I thought I could have had a substantial improvement. Still do. Especially with the new gear.
For more evidence of FT/FT's crazy scaling you can look at the Loatheb fight too I guess. I didn't post it because my spore spawned in the healers and they didn't' get out of the way so one stole my buff. As a result, my (and some other's) buff uptime is painfully low. Edit: Oh I remember part of the reason why now. I spent most of the time on the 11 debuff side.
As a small suffix: it is worth noting that threat (for the time being anyways) tends to be somewhat of an issue at times. Since Spirit Weapons doesn't effect much of your damage with this setup, I've (rarely) run into some situations where I've had to stop DPS because I was getting uncomfortably high (105%). That being said, if you can bribe one of your paladin friends to toss you a hand of salvation in an emergency, it's more than manageable.
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I'm getting a "look at my dps" feel from this post. What is your point?
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02/18/09, 7:11 PM
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Bloodscalp
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Originally Posted by jonnaei
I'm getting a "look at my dps" feel from this post. What is your point?
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Errr yeah, looking at it now does make it come off as looking that way. I think it came from a combination 5am posting, and reading the 'Finding the top Raid DPS' thread for my alt in the DK forum (A thread created to try and find out which spec/gear can do the most DPS). In my mind, WF/FT & FT/FT's gear/style is almost different enough to be called 'different specs'.
I've seen a lot of talk since the WF glyph nerf that 'FT might be better, given the right gear.' Well, talk and simming can only get you so far. Eventually you have to get that 'right' gear and move into the 'real world'. I attempted to do that, and show that FT/FT can do a disproportional amount of damage when buffed. That it scales way better than WF/FT, and that if anything min/max'ers should pick up a caster weapon for fights like Thaddius/Loatheb because the fight mechanics make FT way better.
The point was to highlight the gear setup, not my DPS. The DPS can be improved, that much should be obvious, I am not a special snowflake. My point is that if the other people on that leaderboard used FT/FT, I wouldn't even be on it.
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02/19/09, 1:53 AM
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Don Flamenco
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More anecdotal evidence for FT/FT: I ran [Infection Repulser]/ [Webbed Death] tonight for the last few fights in Nax. It was a sloppy night so the only clean fight I have was Saph, and I topped the meter by 600dps which is extremely unusual for my normal raid group. I would typically be 3rd-5th on fights like that. I'll post a clean WWS or WMO after next week's Patchwerk, but my initial impression confirms the crazy FT scaling that others have seen.
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02/19/09, 10:34 AM
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Glass Joe
Tauren Shaman
Burning Steppes (EU)
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Well i tried Ft/Ft last night in naxx 25 and didnt even come close to that. My gear is very similar to yours and i only reached 4500 dps on Patch, a bit more cant remenber exact number, only thing I didnt have was UR or similar buff cause hunter D/c in the begining of the fight and I specced out of UR to try the same build has U. 2 weeks ago I did 4664 with WF/FT, but with some diference in gear.
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02/19/09, 12:25 PM
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40% dolemite
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Originally Posted by epamafia
Well i tried Ft/Ft last night in naxx 25 and didnt even come close to that. My gear is very similar to yours and i only reached 4500 dps on Patch, a bit more cant remenber exact number, only thing I didnt have was UR or similar buff cause hunter D/c in the begining of the fight and I specced out of UR to try the same build has U. 2 weeks ago I did 4664 with WF/FT, but with some diference in gear.
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There are so many different variables that are in constant flux week to week, it's arrogant to dismiss/praise something after 1 night of testing. We have slow PW kills for our gear level and last week I hit 6400 dps on a 2:12 kill, this week similar length and barely reached 6k(no sunder qq). Fights that quick are poor judges of the actual DPS a spec can do. Actually sit down and analyze your WWS and compare crit rates, buffs, raid comp, kill time, etc; these are all gigantic factors and in fights that take 2 minutes. You can rng the hell out of LB and rock 70% crit one week and come back the next and be lucky to hit 45, likewise with the other 923011 damage sources enhancement has.
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Full price for gum!? That dog won't hunt, Monsignor.
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02/19/09, 1:15 PM
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Азурегос (EU)
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According to the info in this thread about dps of OH weapons Webbed Death is superior to all other weapons in both WF/FT and FT/FT setups. I want to say that in my current gear (FT/FT) it is 15 dps less, than Sinister Revenge according to the EnchSim 1.58.
Concerning weapon enchants 63 spd is a bit better, than berserk on the MH and equal to berserk on the OH according to the same version of the Sim.
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02/20/09, 8:30 PM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Paenor
Well someone had to take the plunge. A while ago, in the other thread I said I'd try to post some real world numbers, so here they are. (Yeah yeah, in yet another thread, FT/FT vs WF/FT discussion spreading everywhere, blah blah. This thread is actually about comparing weapons, so here is my real world comparison in order to show fast weapon FT/FT's crazy scaling is more than just theorycraft. If it really bothers people that much that I post this here instead of cluttering up the forum with new threads then I just won't bother anymore.)
Weapon setup: Haunting Call (50 spell power), Webbed Death (Berserking)
Here are my Patchwerk and a Thaddius kills from last week. Currently Thaddius (10317 dps) is ranked at #3 dps for shaman on WMO, and Patchwerk (5503 dps) is not too far off the leader board all things considered.
However, before writing this off as 'not being the best', look at the other factors that make me feel this is worth looking at:
- Gear. Just in case you armory me, since those fights I have picked up a Blue Aspect Helmet (~180EP gain over t7.5), T7.5 gloves (~40EP over T7), and finally swallowed my pride and took the Wrymcrest Necklace of Power (~200EP over CoD) and I'm still a few slots behind the people ahead of me on the meters. I am still wearing a few pieces 10man gear and am far from BIS for example.
Note: Those EP values are based on the numbers I was seeing at the time of the upgrade. Haste was hypervalued for quite a while. I'm at the point where it's worth 3.4EP a point. However, I'm single digits away from having the valuing nosediving to 1.4EP. I suspect this has to do with static shock eating too many stormstrike charges.
- Fight length. We were months slow in putting together a 25 man guild and only now are getting well geared. As a result, fights are longer. Many of the Patchwerk fights on the leader board are a minute faster; that's almost half the fight duration. That is a massive difference in heroism/bloodlust/pot duration. One of the Thaddius fights was 50 seconds faster.
- Comparison to other classes in the raid. While the other people on the meter aren't setting any records, I believe that after you take gear level into account they are still a good comparison to 'normal' DPS. Believe what you will, but the other people in the guild aren't bad. Many frequent EJ, and some do experimentation of their own. Before TBC/WoTLK many were competitive with the top DPS of their classes at the time. Up until right now, thanks to a really good loot week after those kills, I had average gear amongst my guild.
I also might just be talking out of my ass here, but after the Thaddius fight while I was waiting for someone to inevitably post the meter (I just use statiscl and a guildmate uploads to WWS/WMO since I noticed Recount behaving strangely in FT/FT dummy tests) I was thinking that my DPS wouldn't be high and was unhappy with my performance. Without the meter I thought I could have had a substantial improvement. Still do. Especially with the new gear.
For more evidence of FT/FT's crazy scaling you can look at the Loatheb fight too I guess. I didn't post it because my spore spawned in the healers and they didn't' get out of the way so one stole my buff. As a result, my (and some other's) buff uptime is painfully low. Edit: Oh I remember part of the reason why now. I spent most of the time on the 11 debuff side.
As a small suffix: it is worth noting that threat (for the time being anyways) tends to be somewhat of an issue at times. Since Spirit Weapons doesn't effect much of your damage with this setup, I've (rarely) run into some situations where I've had to stop DPS because I was getting uncomfortably high (105%). That being said, if you can bribe one of your paladin friends to toss you a hand of salvation in an emergency, it's more than manageable.
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I too decided to take a stab at this. I upgraded my pants from Herois to Valorous yesterday but otherwise my gear is the same as our 25 man naxx clear yesterday. I had 6100 DPS on Patchwerk, and 11300 DPS on Thaddius. This is with Cudgel of Saronite Justice in the mainhand, which simmed as better with 63 SP than Berserking.
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