Yeah I thought I remembered reading that. But is there a way to simulate using SR on cooldown?

I suspect Rawr does this by default. I remember comparing gear a while back when I had 4xt9 and 1xt10 equipped, it was telling me that upgrading my legs to t10(ilevel251) as being a 200dps upgrade. I don't believe this would be the case if it wasn't using SR on CD.

It does this by default if you have SR ticked in the priority list. It has NEVER used SR only to get mana. The whole mana calcs are rather screwy so I disabled them.

I think there's an interesting side effect by disabling mana calcs in Rawr. It seems that now when you copy into EnhSim from Rawr, it turns off simulate mana. Not sure if that is something that should be the default when importing from Rawr.

Fixed for v2.3.9

I have probably a stupid question. Rawr is showing my yellow crit higher than my white crit by exactly 4.8%. Also Enhsim is telling me that my stormstrike crit chance is by more or less 3% higher than wy auto-attack. I checked my WoL logs and didn't find such differences between white crit and yellow crit. Is there any reason for this behaviour?

yes I know about the crit depression, but as I read those analysis (one from warrior testing it with talented overpower, which is yellow ability) I gained impression that this crit depression is applied to white and yellow damage in the same way, so I still don't see why yellow crit should be higher than white...

Yellow crit depression is 1.8% for a mob 3 levels above you white crit depression is 4.8% for a mob 3 levels above you. Ask Blizzard why they decided this, it is simply how they coded it, and so is represented that way in both the sims.

Specifically the code in Rawr is :

Excuse my ignorance, and excuse if this has been explained in this thread already, but does nyone have any idea why Rawr would show my AP as being like 1200-1500 over what the armory shows ? This is of course after disabling all buffs. Is there something im not taking into account ?

Corellia on Draka US if anyone wants to look at this ?

Trinket procs

I believe [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance] is missing from RAWR. At least couldn´t find it.

I was trying to figure out if a [Black Bruise] / [Frost Giant's Cleaver] combo was ahead of a [Frost Giant's Cleaver] / [Frostblade Hatchet] combo and it seemed the classical case in which EnhSim and Rawr give different results.

EnhSim gave for the 1st combo 90 dps more then the 2nd combo, while Rawr gave to the [Frost Giant's Cleaver] / [Frostblade Hatchet] combo 60 dps circa more then BB/FGC.

I took a look at the special effect and it seems that the proc chance for normal version of Black Bruise is incorrectly modeled to a proc chance of 1%, while testing yield a 3.3 proc chance. The heroic [Black Bruise] seems even more incorrectly modeled in Rawr, as it has no special effect at all.

After changing the proc chance to 3.3% the difference between the 2 combos is still in favor of [Frost Giant's Cleaver] / [Frostblade Hatchet] in Rawr but the 2 combos are closer.

I don't know whether Levva or somebody else is going to update the Enhancement module in Rawr, anyway I suggest to everybody who want to use Rawr as Enhancer to manually edit the Black Bruise(s) in Rawr to yield more accurate results.

Edit: Rawr version 2.3.8 and I made sure that the gem in the [Frostblade Hatchet] slot did not affect critical stats like Expertise or Spell hit cap if the weapon was swapped for another one without a slot.

Again this is a DATA issue in YOUR data. It is modelled as 3.3% in the code, ie: if you deleted Black Bruise and added it fresh it would get a 3.3% proc rate. At least it did last time I bothered to look at the code which was around new year time.

I have been working on getting Rawr.Enhance up to speed for Cataclysm. It is mostly functional, and is returning fairly sensible values. A (functional) public build hasn't been posted yet, but i would welcome anyone willing and able to build from the source code to test it out.

There are a few known problems:

• Export to EnhSim is currently not functional.
• Unleash Elements special effects not fully implemented.
• Priority Tab is empty (currently unfinished)
• Flametongue damage not updated to new values (as that is still being worked out)

Since the priority tab is unfinished, the current default priority is listed below:

1. Feral Spirits
2. Stormtrike
3. Lava Lash
4. Flame Shock
5. Unleash Elements
6. MW5 Lightning Bolt
7. Earth Shock
8. Fire Elemental
9. Searing Totem
10. Shamanistic Rage
11. Lightning Shield
12. Refresh Totems

N.B. I realise that the priority list above is not ideal, and will change it when I check in my next set of changes.

I can probably re-do the Export to EnhSim stuff since I originally wrote it and have recently fixed ShockAndAwe to use the new formatting.

Can you confirm please what Rawr platform you have targetted? ie: Rawr2? Rawr3? Rawr4? I wouldn't want to update something for the wrong platform.

A public beta of Rawr 4 has been posted. It can be found at http://elitistjerks.com/rawr.php.
As it is a beta, there will be bugs and such. If you do run into one, follow the instructions that are located below the Rawr program.

Known problems in the Enhance module:

• Feral Spirits still using lvl 80 values
• Fire Elemental still using lvl 80 values
• All the items in my previous post

NOTE: There is currently a problem with loading characters from Battle Net. Until that gets fixed, you will have to manually enter your items.

EDIT: If you do experience problems, please read this thread first.

I'm using the latest version of Rawr and noticed a couple of things:
Note: I'm a dreanei Shaman in mostly pre raiding and heroic gear.
1. Some stats aren't copied correctly form battle.net armory. such as health and mana, strength and intellect being to low compared to ingame and armory.
2. There is a comparable problem with secondary stats like haste (melee haste ingame 2.3%, Rawr 2.98%)
I hope this may help

That sounds like Rawr is adding 30% to melee haste. 2.3% * 1.3 = 2.99%.

Rouncer (sorry, I don't have an 85 Shaman yet to compare) has 1.69% haste on Battle.net, but Rawr shows his 216 rating as 2.19% melee haste.

Is this the old 30% from pre-4.0.1, or is this assuming 99-100% flurry uptime?

For your first point, it's a known bug mentioned 2 replies above yours.

Good news everybody! I have fixed export to EnhSim button for the next release! With one caveat though: it's only working for the WPF version and not the silverlight (online) version.

Edalia was correct for point 2. Have removed the 30% bonus haste from shamans. For point 1, the base stats for Dreanei Shaman had not been updated to 85 (they have been now).

Do you mean fixed in upcoming build cause I just tried it with the latest WPF version and it just locked up the program and the clipboard was empty.

Edit - I shall reserve my jig-o-joy for that next release (woot!)

Yes, sorry. Fixed in the next release/build.

The Silverlight version needs a tweak as there is a permissions thing with copying to clipboard. If you utilise the same code I did for Rawr.Addon you can display the code string and just tell the user to press CTRL-C.

Code is at Rawr.UI/Character/RawrAddonLoadDialog.xaml & RawrAddonLoadDialog.cs - you could just copy these two files into Rawr.Enhance and tweak accordingly. Give me a shout if its not obvious how.