[Enhancement] Rawr.Enhance thread - Page 5

Blind · 04/19/09, 9:40 AM

I was playing around with the 2.2.0.9 and I've inputted my gear available and hit the optimize button.

For some reason the simulator thinks that I do more DPS with 1 ring, instead of 2 equipped. Is this going to be a deficiency of the model, or rawr?

If you want my xml file it can be provided.

Levva · 04/19/09, 8:51 PM

Thats something basic not model specific please post your XML file and detail the steps you take to see the problem. If I can follow the exact same steps and see the problem I can fix it. If I can't see the problem (ie: don't know how to make it happen) I'm unlikely to be able to fix it.

Electrofreak · 04/19/09, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Levva

This is a misunderstanding of how Rawr works it does not use ANY weightings at all. What it does is calculate what your dps is with that slot/enchant/gem socket empty then calc what your dps is with various optional items/enchants/gems. The result is displayed as a chart.

Its exactly the same calculation done every time just swapping the different items. So assuming the calculation can be made accurate the recommendations will be accurate. At present that's the focus of testing making the calculations accurate. Telling me its saying swap one piece for another doesn't actually tell me anything sorry. What I need is with this config I'm seeing X dps if I tweak A then I get Y dps but I was expecting Z.

Once we get EnhSim confirmed as stable and accurate again I'll be able to do lots of testing (in between raiding Ulduar of course) to check why any differences might be occuring. With any major patch you can expect LOTS of new Rawr versions as its under active review not just of Enhance model but all models and the base code too. eg: I added import possible upgrades from wowhead options, extra language localisation options, the export menu to export PAWN strings, and view weighted stats on LootRank & Wowhead.

I didn't mean "weighting" literally; I meant that the amount of DPS that Rawr.Enhance is calculating for +spellpower items seems higher than it should be compared to the amount it is giving to non +spellpower items (ie Enhance items).

Maybe this has something to do with a formula that handles spellpower in Rawr.Enhance?

This is my config for the Titansteel Bonecrusher. It comes out to 2325 unbuffed DPS (yeah, I know, don't laugh, I don't grind instances much). Note I didn't calculate Feral Spirits DPS in, as whenever I included it in the rotation, my EnhSim crashed.

simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              ES_SS
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              LL
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8              LS

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                16.0/16.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          0/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   0/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  0/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.5
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          143.6
oh_dps                          130.2
mh_crit                         24.56
oh_crit                         24.56
mh_hit                          10.31
oh_hit                          10.31
mh_expertise_rating             53
oh_expertise_rating             53
ap                              2589
melee_haste                     1.51
armor_penetration               9.99
str                             121
agi                             640
int                             407
spi                             153
spellpower                      839
spell_crit                      18.60
spell_hit                       12.89
spell_haste                     1.16
max_mana                        10221
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        meteorite_whetstone
trinket2                        -

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         -

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    lightning_shield
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            1/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

Equipping Titansteel Destroyer gives me 2337 DPS (a 12 DPS upgrade, but I refuse to switch to a MH caster mace, I'll keep running Naxx once a week until I get my hands on something better).

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simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   6
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         0
max_lag                         0
simulate_mana                   0

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        0
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left        15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       750
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         8
rotation_priority1              SR
rotation_priority2              MW5_LB
rotation_priority3              ES_SS
rotation_priority4              SS
rotation_priority5              ES
rotation_priority6              LL
rotation_priority7              MT
rotation_priority8              LS

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                16.0/16.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          0/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier    0/99.7
spell_haste_buff                0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff         0/3.0
haste_buff                      0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   0/52
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  0/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              0
judgement_of_wisdom             0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            draenei
mh_speed                        2.5
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          82.8
oh_dps                          130.2
mh_crit                         25.19
oh_crit                         25.19
mh_hit                          10.31
oh_hit                          10.31
mh_expertise_rating             24
oh_expertise_rating             24
ap                              2449
melee_haste                     1.51
armor_penetration               9.99
str                             121
agi                             640
int                             407
spi                             153
spellpower                      1254
spell_crit                      19.23
spell_hit                       12.89
spell_haste                     1.16
max_mana                        10221
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      mongoose
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       axe

trinket1                        meteorite_whetstone
trinket2                        -

totem                           totem_of_splintering

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         -

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    lightning_shield
glyph_major3                    stormstrike

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                0/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            1/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

However, Rawr shows this as a 40 DPS upgrade on the MH upgrade chart.

Rawr also shows my DPS as 2722.96, so it's off by about 400 DPS.

I illustrate this because it seems like this extra 400 DPS may be due to a spellpower miscalculation, or perhaps something to do with a spell coefficient? Titansteel Spellblade is even higher on the chart in Rawr, another 15 DPS above Titansteel Guardian.

So I'm just throwing this out there in the event that this proves useful in uncovering the discrepancies between the DPS that shows in Rawr and EnhSim. Rawr does recognize that the +spellpower MH crafted hammer is a DPS upgrade for me over the crafted DPS MH hammer, which is certainly useful (and surprising to me when I noticed it), but the estimation is being pushed too far for some reason. It seems likely either crit rating or the spellpower is to blame. (I'll put my money on spellpower.)

Blind · 04/20/09, 4:13 AM

Originally Posted by Levva

Thats something basic not model specific please post your XML file and detail the steps you take to see the problem. If I can follow the exact same steps and see the problem I can fix it. If I can't see the problem (ie: don't know how to make it happen) I'm unlikely to be able to fix it.

Copied and pasted from xml file.

To reproduce just go to optimizer and hit go. I would expect my ring of invincibility to have some dps increase.

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  <Region>EU</Region>
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  <EnforceMetagemRequirements>false</EnforceMetagemRequirements>
  <Head>40521.41398.40053.0.3817</Head>
  <Neck>40065.0.0.0.0</Neck>
  <Shoulders>40524.39999.0.0.2986</Shoulders>
  <Back>40250.0.0.0.1099</Back>
  <Chest>40523.39999.42702.0.3252</Chest>
  <Shirt>4334.0.0.0.0</Shirt>
  <Tabard>43156.0.0.0.0</Tabard>
  <Wrist>40282.40053.0.0.3756</Wrist>
  <Hands>39727.0.0.0.0</Hands>
  <Waist>39762.40053.0.0.0</Waist>
  <Legs>40522.40003.40053.0.3328</Legs>
  <Feet>40549.0.0.0.3826</Feet>
  <Finger2>40474.0.0.0.0</Finger2>
  <Trinket1>37660.0.0.0.0</Trinket1>
  <Trinket2>40684.0.0.0.0</Trinket2>
  <MainHand>40383.0.0.0.3789</MainHand>
  <OffHand>40386.0.0.0.3789</OffHand>
  <Ranged>40322.0.0.0.0</Ranged>
  <CalculationToOptimize>[Overall]</CalculationToOptimize>
  <OptimizationRequirements />
  <WarriorTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000000</WarriorTalents>
  <PaladinTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0000000000000000000000000000000000</PaladinTalents>
  <HunterTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</HunterTalents>
  <RogueTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</RogueTalents>
  <PriestTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000000000000</PriestTalents>
  <ShamanTalents>05203015000000000000000003030503310502133303113113105100000000000000000000000000.0000010000000100000000100000</ShamanTalents>
  <MageTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0000000000000000</MageTalents>
  <WarlockTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</WarlockTalents>
  <DruidTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000</DruidTalents>
  <DeathKnightTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</DeathKnightTalents>
  <CustomItemInstances />
  <WaistBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>true</WaistBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
  <HandsBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>false</HandsBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
  <WristBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>false</WristBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
</Character>

Cyaxeres · 04/20/09, 4:53 AM

Just doing some testing with v2.2.0.9 tonight I noticed that it is exporting the T8 set bonus as ulduar_melee_2 and ulduar_melee_4 when they are actually called worldbreaker_battlegear_2 and worldbreaker_battlegear_4 in EnhSim. It was easy enough to go change it but it took me a minute to figure out why I was getting an error in my EnhSim output.

Levva · 04/20/09, 8:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cyaxeres

Just doing some testing with v2.2.0.9 tonight I noticed that it is exporting the T8 set bonus as ulduar_melee_2 and ulduar_melee_4 when they are actually called worldbreaker_battlegear_2 and worldbreaker_battlegear_4 in EnhSim. It was easy enough to go change it but it took me a minute to figure out why I was getting an error in my EnhSim output.

Fixed.

Levva · 04/20/09, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by Blind

Copied and pasted from xml file.

To reproduce just go to optimizer and hit go. I would expect my ring of invincibility to have some dps increase.

1) I loaded your XML file.
2) I clicked on Tools Menu.
3) I clicked on Optimize
4) I clicked the Optimize button

It ran optimiser and returned saying Empty Ring socket should be replaced by Ring of Invincibility.

ie: working fine.

If this is not what you did ie: you did not follow those steps PLEASE tell me the EXACT steps. Don't say "just go to" give the steps. If you are doing something special that causes this it NEEDS to be fixed. BTW someone else reported a similar problem they gave simple steps and I can see the issue, as yet I don't know what's caused it.

So yes I do believe you that there is an issue but I need your steps to solve it so I can narrow it down. Two identical issues makes that a lot easier if its the same steps.

Blind · 04/21/09, 2:30 PM

I reloaded my XML and first time through it equps the ring. If you then hit optimise a second time I get the sim de-equipping my ring.

Load XML
Tools
optimize
optimze
Tools
optimize
optimize

Imageshack link to the relevant stuff.

[img=http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5462/blindrawr.jpg]

As you can see it's trying to de-equip my ring to increase my dps!

Nevets_69 · 04/21/09, 3:11 PM

Wanted to play around with the Rawr module today during server downtime, but I keep getting the following error.

Downloaded version 2.2.0.9 from the Rawr site, and deleted everything else before unzipping the package.

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Rawr.ItemInstance.AccumulateTotalStats(Character character, Stats unsafeStatsAccumulator)
   at Rawr.CalculationsBase.AccumulateItemStats(Stats stats, Character character, Item additionalItem)
   at Rawr.CalculationsBase.GetItemStats(Character character, Item additionalItem)
   at Rawr.CalculationsEnhance.GetCharacterStats(Character character, Item additionalItem)
   at Rawr.CalculationsEnhance.GetCharacterCalculations(Character character, Item additionalItem, Boolean referenceCalculation, Boolean significantChange, Boolean needsDisplayCalculations)
   at Rawr.Calculations.GetCharacterCalculations(Character character, Item additionalItem, Boolean referenceCalculation, Boolean significantChange, Boolean needsDisplayCalculations)
   at Rawr.FormMain._character_ItemsChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at Rawr.FormMain.set_Character(Character value)
   at Rawr.FormMain.LoadCharacterIntoForm(Character character, Boolean unsavedChanges)
   at Rawr.FormMain.bw_ArmoryGetCharacterComplete(Object sender, RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs e)
   at System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker.OnRunWorkerCompleted(RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs e)
   at System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker.AsyncOperationCompleted(Object arg)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Rawr.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Base
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Rawr.Base.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Base
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Base.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Base.XmlSerializers
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Base.XmlSerializers.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Bear
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Bear.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Cat
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Cat.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.DPSDK
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.DPSDK.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.DPSWarr
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.DPSWarr.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Elemental
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Elemental.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Enhance
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.8504
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Enhance.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Healadin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Healadin.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.HolyPriest
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.HolyPriest.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Hunter
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Hunter.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Mage
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Mage.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Moonkin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Moonkin.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.ProtPaladin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.ProtPaladin.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.ProtWarr
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.ProtWarr.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.RestoSham
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.RestoSham.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Retribution
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Retribution.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.ShadowPriest
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.ShadowPriest.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Tankadin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Tankadin.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.TankDK
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.TankDK.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Tree
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Tree.DLL
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Warlock
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Data/Rawr.Warlock.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
w5ylc4yf
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr.Base.XmlSerializers
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.2.0.9
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Games/Rawr%20v2.2.0.9/Rawr.Base.XmlSerializers.DLL
----------------------------------------
_gs1tdzl
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
nj17ku7s
    Assembly Version: 2.2.0.9
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
znovf91j
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
nlak0mdl
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

I'm wondering if it's a problem loading the icon for the Yogg-10 axe or something, cause the rest of my gear appears just before the error, but the axe won't show up.

Let me know if there's anything else I can provide, I'm not even getting to a point where it's generating an xml file for me to save.

After fiddling a bit more, managed to get an xml file before completely crashing out.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Character xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
  <Name>Josua</Name>
  <Realm>Arthas</Realm>
  <Region>US</Region>
  <Race>Orc</Race>
  <Class>Shaman</Class>
  <ActiveBuffs>Strength of Earth Totem</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Flametongue Totem</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Bloodlust</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Windfury Totem</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Improved Windfury Totem</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Enhancing Totems (Agility/Strength)</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Enhancing Totems (Spell Power)</ActiveBuffs>
  <CalculationOptions>
    <item>
      <key>
        <string>Enhance</string>
      </key>
      <value>
        <string>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?&gt;
&lt;CalculationOptionsEnhance xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"&gt;
  &lt;TargetLevel&gt;83&lt;/TargetLevel&gt;
  &lt;TargetArmor&gt;10645&lt;/TargetArmor&gt;
  &lt;NumberOfFerociousInspirations&gt;2&lt;/NumberOfFerociousInspirations&gt;
  &lt;BloodlustUptime&gt;0.15&lt;/BloodlustUptime&gt;
  &lt;ShattrathFaction&gt;Aldor&lt;/ShattrathFaction&gt;
  &lt;MainhandImbue&gt;Windfury&lt;/MainhandImbue&gt;
  &lt;OffhandImbue&gt;Flametongue&lt;/OffhandImbue&gt;
  &lt;FightLength&gt;5&lt;/FightLength&gt;
  &lt;BaseStatOption&gt;false&lt;/BaseStatOption&gt;
  &lt;Magma&gt;false&lt;/Magma&gt;
&lt;/CalculationOptionsEnhance&gt;</string>
      </value>
    </item>
  </CalculationOptions>
  <AvailableItems>40521</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-13817</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>44664</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40524</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-33808</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40523</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-53832</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>39762</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40522</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-113823</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40549</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-123826</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40282</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-83845</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>41136</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40717</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>45688</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>42122</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>45286</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40250</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-41099</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>40383</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>-153789</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>46031</AvailableItems>
  <AvailableItems>45169</AvailableItems>
  <CurrentModel>Enhance</CurrentModel>
  <EnforceMetagemRequirements>false</EnforceMetagemRequirements>
  <Head>40521.41285.40003.0.3817</Head>
  <Neck>44664.36766.0.0.0</Neck>
  <Shoulders>40524.36766.0.0.3808</Shoulders>
  <Back>40250.0.0.0.1099</Back>
  <Chest>40523.39999.42154.0.3832</Chest>
  <Wrist>40282.39999.39999.0.3845</Wrist>
  <Hands>41136.41441.0.0.0</Hands>
  <Waist>39762.39999.0.0.0</Waist>
  <Legs>40522.40003.39999.0.3823</Legs>
  <Feet>40549.0.0.0.3826</Feet>
  <Finger1>40717.0.0.0.0</Finger1>
  <Finger2>45688.0.0.0.0</Finger2>
  <Trinket1>42122.0.0.0.0</Trinket1>
  <Trinket2>45286.0.0.0.0</Trinket2>
  <MainHand>40383.0.0.0.3789</MainHand>
  <OffHand>46031.0.0.0.3789</OffHand>
  <Ranged>45169.0.0.0.0</Ranged>
  <WarriorTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000000</WarriorTalents>
  <PaladinTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0000000000000000000000000000000000</PaladinTalents>
  <HunterTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</HunterTalents>
  <RogueTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</RogueTalents>
  <PriestTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000000000000</PriestTalents>
  <ShamanTalents>05303115000000000000000003020503310502133303113103105100000000000000000000000000.0001010000000100000000100000</ShamanTalents>
  <MageTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0000000000000000</MageTalents>
  <WarlockTalents>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</WarlockTalents>
  <DruidTalents>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.000000000000000000000000</DruidTalents>
  <DeathKnightTalents>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</DeathKnightTalents>
  <CustomItemInstances />
  <WaistBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>true</WaistBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
  <HandsBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>true</HandsBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
  <WristBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>true</WristBlacksmithingSocketEnabled>
</Character>

Saigar · 04/23/09, 7:18 AM

Hey, Levva. Thanks for a great tool.
Now to my problem. I'm using ver. 2.2.0.8504 and Rawr shows [The Masticator] as my BiS MH-weapon. It gives me 6370 DPS with it compared to 6184 with [Golden Saronite Dragon]. Well, my EnhSim EP values put GSD far ahead of Masticator. Is such a big difference caused by the slower speed of the [The Masticator]?
Sorry for not so perfect English, not a native speaker.

Cyaxeres · 04/23/09, 3:32 PM

I was also having issues with Rawr crashing when I tried to load my character from armory too. I then went to the tools and told it to update its data from Wowhead and the Armory with all the new items and didn't have the crashes after that.

Levva · 04/24/09, 7:01 PM

Version 2.2.1

All new Windfury model should be a lot more stable.
Off hand frill items no longer relevant
EnhSim export updated to work with EnhSim v1.6.9
Fix for T8 set bonus names in export
Added in crit depression calcs (4.8% white, 1.8% yellow), fixed Magma totem option not saving
Now model fully uses SpecialEffects class export no longer needs to remove proc/use data only needs to get name now
Add effects of Elemental Devastation bonus crit, Update EDUptime tooltip to report amount of bonus crit expected to be gained.
Rawr will no longer recommend equipping more than 3 dragons eye gems if you are a jeweler. ie: no more invalid optimisations will be offered.
Removed bloodlust uptime option, now uses 40sec / Fight Length option instead.
Fixed incorrect Dual wield miss chance should be 27% not 28%

PLEASE make sure you upgrade to this version. As there are some quite major enhancements. Please also delete your old directory and install fresh don't just overwrite the old one or you may get some odd clashes and weird errors.

Levva · 04/24/09, 7:05 PM

Originally Posted by Saigar

Hey, Levva. Thanks for a great tool.
Now to my problem. I'm using ver. 2.2.0.8504 and Rawr shows [The Masticator] as my BiS MH-weapon. It gives me 6370 DPS with it compared to 6184 with [Golden Saronite Dragon]. Well, my EnhSim EP values put GSD far ahead of Masticator. Is such a big difference caused by the slower speed of the [The Masticator]?
Sorry for not so perfect English, not a native speaker.

No in v2.2.0.x there was an issue with the windfury model that did funny things when haste was added. New model uses new windfury calcs and appears to be a lot more stable.

Sylvand · 04/30/09, 3:11 PM

I'm using 2.2.1.0, and I can't seem to find a way to run the optimizer without replacing my Tuskarr's Vitality enchant (Icewalker is always used of course). Is it possible to do this, or could it be added?

OnosKT · 04/30/09, 3:33 PM

Ok took a small time of digging but figured how to do that:

Gear Optimization

Basically here are the steps:

1. In the right hand side, select at the top Slot: Enchant Feet
2. You will see a bunch of enchants
3. Click on the diamond next to each item and deselect everything you do not want for optimization, and select only what you want to have available for optim.

Frostshockz · 05/01/09, 9:18 PM

I downloaded this tonight and I love it.

I have 2 questions and I looked through the Q&A but didn't see an answer:

1) How can I use JC gems? I clicked on edit gemming templates and clicked on the JC ones (clicked the boxes), but they are still not showing when I click on an individual item and say custom gems. Is there something I am missing? I would love to add my JC gems, and just can't see how.

What is even more interesting is that some of the items, when you click them to get an upgrade - show the JC gems.

2) When I click on upgrades - I see the same thing multiple times with different gems. Is there any way to only see one and then allow me to gem it? Kinda limit the options shown?

ankasunamore · 05/02/09, 1:52 AM

I just downloaded Rawr (v2.2.1.0) from the website and went to run the program. The following error came up when i clicked on the Rawr.exe button. When i tried to extract the file into My Documents WinAce just freeze up on me. Am i doing something wrong.

Thank you heaps for your help.

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.TypeLoadException: Unable to find any model plug in dlls.  Please check that the files exist and are in the correct location
   at Rawr.Calculations.get_Models()
   at Rawr.FormSplash.get_CachedSplash()
   at Rawr.FormSplash.FormSplash_Paint(Object sender, PaintEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PaintWithErrorHandling(PaintEventArgs e, Int16 layer, Boolean disposeEventArgs)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmPaint(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
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Rawr
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Rawr.Base
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Rawr.Base
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Rawr.Bear
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Rawr.Cat
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Rawr.DPSDK
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Rawr.DPSWarr
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Rawr.Elemental
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Rawr.Enhance
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
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Rawr.Healadin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
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Rawr.HolyPriest
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
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Rawr.Hunter
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.Hunter.dll
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Rawr.Mage
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.Mage.dll
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Rawr.Moonkin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
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Rawr.ProtPaladin
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.ProtPaladin.dll
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Rawr.ProtWarr
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    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.ProtWarr.dll
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Rawr.RestoSham
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
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Rawr.Retribution
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Rawr.ShadowPriest
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Rawr.Tankadin
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    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.Tankadin.dll
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Rawr.TankDK
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    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.TankDK.dll
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Rawr.Tree
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.Tree.dll
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Rawr.Warlock
    Assembly Version: 2.2.1.0
    Win32 Version: 2.2.1.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Lisa/Local%20Settings/Temp/~AceTemp/Rawr%20v2.2.1(3)/Rawr%20v2.2.1/Data/Rawr.Warlock.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

OnosKT · 05/02/09, 11:57 AM

It looks like it was not extracted correctly sicne it can not find the model DLLs. I suggest trying 7zip for it.

ankasunamore · 05/02/09, 8:52 PM

Originally Posted by OnosKT

It looks like it was not extracted correctly sicne it can not find the model DLLs. I suggest trying 7zip for it.

Cool thank you. My hubby has it working on his computer so i'll probably just use it there. Thank again

Electrofreak · 05/02/09, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Frostshockz

I downloaded this tonight and I love it.

I have 2 questions and I looked through the Q&A but didn't see an answer:

1) How can I use JC gems? I clicked on edit gemming templates and clicked on the JC ones (clicked the boxes), but they are still not showing when I click on an individual item and say custom gems. Is there something I am missing? I would love to add my JC gems, and just can't see how.

What is even more interesting is that some of the items, when you click them to get an upgrade - show the JC gems.

2) When I click on upgrades - I see the same thing multiple times with different gems. Is there any way to only see one and then allow me to gem it? Kinda limit the options shown?

Rawr's help menu has detailed answers to these questions, and I would recommend making use of it.

Short answer: Tools menu -> Edit Gemming Templates

andreasg · 05/03/09, 8:28 PM

I'm currently using 2.2.1.

For some reason it says that Wraith Strike is a better weapon for me than Calamity's Grasp, or even Golden Saronite Dragon.

Levva · 05/04/09, 8:00 AM

Originally Posted by andreasg

I'm currently using 2.2.1.

For some reason it says that Wraith Strike is a better weapon for me than Calamity's Grasp, or even Golden Saronite Dragon.

A few people have said this but no-one ever gives me solid test data to show what might be wrong. Can you give me Rawr values with your regular kit ie: what dps does each ability give. Export this to EnhSim and tell me what EnhSim says. Then equip Wraith Strike and give all those values, export that new config to EnhSim and tell me what EnhSim says.

By comparing the two sets of results it should be a lot easier to work out what is happening and in what part of the code I need to focus my attention. I know something is wrong as several people have reported that with their kit they see the effect. However my psychic powers are weak at present as there is no R in the month

so I can't read your mind and see what you are seeing without you providing concrete data.

andreasg · 05/04/09, 10:04 AM

Yeah, I was figuring you'd probably need more information than that. I'll get on to it.

Seems like it would be nice if there was an easier to way to EnhSim your Rawr setup, like skipping the copy paste part.

OnosKT · 05/04/09, 10:23 AM

Seems like it would be nice if there was an easier to way to EnhSim your Rawr setup, like skipping the copy paste part.

I don't know what is much easier then pressing 3 buttons:

1. Click export
2. Click copy from clipboard
3. Click simulate

EnhSim can't be added to Rawr since they are separate programs (and written in different languages)

andreasg · 05/04/09, 10:40 AM

My EnhSim with Calamity's Grasp, followed by relative stat values output from Rawr, WF/FT

EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      3437.53
ap                        1.00      0.38      3512.91        75.38
crit rating               2.17      0.82      3462.03        24.50
hit rating                1.58      0.59      3455.34        17.81
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -3437.53
haste rating              1.86      0.70      3458.61        21.08
armor penetration rating  1.39      0.52      3453.21        15.68
spellpower                1.22      0.46      3506.63        69.11
mh dps                    5.90      2.23      3454.22        16.69
oh dps                    3.03      1.14      3446.09        8.57
strength                  1.00
agility                   1.65
intelligence*             1.32
spirit                    0.00      0.00      0.00           -3437.53
mana                      0.00      0.00      0.00           -3437.53
mp5                       0.00      0.00      0.00           -3437.53

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.
( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=2.17, HitRating=1.58, HasteRating=1.86
, ExpertiseRating=0.00, ArmorPenetration=1.39, SpellDamage=1.22, MainHandDps=5.9
0, OffHandDps=3.03, Strength=1.00, Agility=1.65, Intellect=1.32, Spirit=0.00, Ma
na=0.00, Mp5=0.00 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1.00&mh=1.86&dps=5.90&mp5=0.00&mcr
=2.17&odps=3.03&spd=1.22&Agi=1.65&mhit=1.58&Int=1.32&Spi=0.00&map=1.00&arp=1.39&
Exp=0.00

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 9.42s
simulation speed: 3821250x

Name,Equipped,Slot,Gem1,Gem2,Gem3,Enchant,Source,ItemId,GemmedId,Overall,DPS,Survivability
 Crit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.6884766,0.6884766,0
 Hit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.5961914,0.5961914,0
 Agility,False,,,,,,,,,0.5864046,0.5864046,0
 Haste Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.5612793,0.5612793,0
 Spell Power,False,,,,,,,,,0.4981144,0.4981144,0
 Intellect,False,,,,,,,,,0.4842578,0.4842578,0
 Armor Penetration Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.395752,0.395752,0
 Attack Power,False,,,,,,,,,0.3813999,0.3813999,0
 Strength,False,,,,,,,,,0.3813999,0.3813999,0
 Melee Crit,False,,,,,,,,,0.3723145,0.3723145,0
 Spell Crit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.3161621,0.3161621,0
 Stamina,False,,,,,,,,,0.1998321,0,0.1998626
 Health,False,,,,,,,,,0.02000264,0,0.01997214

My EnhSim with Wraith Strike, followed by relative stat values output from Rawr, WF/FT

EP                        value     DPS       total DPS      difference

baseline                                      3449.80
ap                        1.00      0.38      3525.33        75.53
crit rating               1.99      0.75      3472.37        22.57
hit rating                1.34      0.51      3464.96        15.16
expertise rating          0.00      0.00      0.00           -3449.80
haste rating              1.99      0.75      3472.33        22.54
armor penetration rating  1.37      0.52      3465.29        15.49
spellpower                1.21      0.46      3518.09        68.29
mh dps                    5.95      2.25      3466.66        16.86
oh dps                    2.78      1.05      3457.66        7.86
strength                  1.00
agility                   1.61
intelligence*             1.30
spirit                    0.00      0.00      0.00           -3449.80
mana                      0.00      0.00      0.00           -3449.80
mp5                       0.00      0.00      0.00           -3449.80

* part of the EP value is missing because of skipped tests.
( Pawn: v1: "EnhSim": Ap=1.00, CritRating=1.99, HitRating=1.34, HasteRating=1.99
, ExpertiseRating=0.00, ArmorPenetration=1.37, SpellDamage=1.21, MainHandDps=5.9
5, OffHandDps=2.78, Strength=1.00, Agility=1.61, Intellect=1.30, Spirit=0.00, Ma
na=0.00, Mp5=0.00 )
http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=64&Str=1.00&mh=1.99&dps=5.95&mp5=0.00&mcr
=1.99&odps=2.78&spd=1.21&Agi=1.61&mhit=1.34&Int=1.30&Spi=0.00&map=1.00&arp=1.37&
Exp=0.00

elapsed simulation time: 10000.00h
elapsed real time: 9.47s
simulation speed: 3802281x

Name,Equipped,Slot,Gem1,Gem2,Gem3,Enchant,Source,ItemId,GemmedId,Overall,DPS,Survivability
 Crit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.6918945,0.6918945,0
 Hit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.5866699,0.5866699,0
 Agility,False,,,,,,,,,0.5721173,0.5721173,0
 Haste Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.550293,0.550293,0
 Spell Power,False,,,,,,,,,0.4998219,0.4998219,0
 Intellect,False,,,,,,,,,0.4768274,0.4768274,0
 Strength,False,,,,,,,,,0.3816867,0.3816867,0
 Attack Power,False,,,,,,,,,0.3816867,0.3816867,0
 Armor Penetration Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.3498535,0.3498535,0
 Spell Crit Rating,False,,,,,,,,,0.3459473,0.3459473,0
 Melee Crit,False,,,,,,,,,0.3459473,0.3459473,0
 Stamina,False,,,,,,,,,0.1998321,0,0.1998626
 Health,False,,,,,,,,,0.02000264,0,0.01997214