Well if no one drops it and you don´t raid with a frost DK, they are both douchebags and if I was RL I would Bench them or started punish them DKPwise until they set the totem right, like every 10 seconds .

@ Kimo

I believe it affects all dmg so....

I don't see why who has to drop WF is an issue, seeing as on most fights you either 1) only drop totems once, and can easily drop them in the middle of the room (Rotface, Festergut, Saurfang), or 2) they are longer then 5 minutes and require a lot of movement, so you're going to be redropping them at least once anyway.

On fights like Rotface, its rather easy for the resto shaman to run to the middle and drop WF and have the ele shaman just start his dps rotation asap. On fights like LDW either one can do it, because unless you do the fight drastically different then i do, you only really need to drop totems twice- once in your phase 1 positioning, then once in your phase 2 positioning. It's rather easy for me to run straight thru LDW and drop my totems in the middle of the room before making it to where I like to stand to dps on that fight.

It really shouldn't be an issue, because unless that ele shaman isn't using dps totems, and he isn't using glyph of Totem of Wrath, he'll be redropping totems fairly often on fights where having that last bit of extra dps really matter (like H LK). And frankly, on fights like that, both shamans are complete moron if they refuses to drop WF totem for that extra dps. Hell, the ele shaman should probably also be speccing into Guardian Totems and dropping Stoneskin totem anyway too, at that point. And if you need to redrop Stoneskin totem to keep it by your tank for the extra 1300ish armor it gives him (that stacks with devo aura), then also redropping wf totem to keep it by the melee shouldn't be an issue.

Thanks for input. But Why would we pop all of this before wolves? If wolves (if my info is correct) won't benefit from any procs/trinkets/cd's popped prior to them being spawned?

Anybody know for sure? They made it work with pets and the buff actually appears on the pet now. However, the buff does not show up on the Fire Ele or searing/magma totems. Also, the 5% pet damage orc racial doesn't work on totems, so totems aren't classified as pets.

Wolves change dynamically with your stats as they are true pets with a pet bar. Bloodlust/Heroism is correct, you have to have the pet active to receive the buff but if you were missing kings when you summoned them and then were buffed with it the wolves would still receive additional stats based on your increased stats. That's why battleshout is so good, since it can be used to buff them both directly in addition to the AP they get from you from the buff.

Minions are different. Their stats are fixed at the time of summon. Fire Elemental is a minion so waiting for a 4T10 proc and then blowing trinkets that boost your Spellpower (AP directly boosts spellpower through talents for Enh) is well worth the effort.

Unless the servercode got changed, pets for Hunters/Warlocks only update their scaling every 20~30 seconds. I've personally verified this with a Deathknight with a permanent Ghoul, boosting my own stamina and checking how long it took for the ghoul to react in scaling, losing Sta and again seeing how long it took. I saw similar things on my Warlock, my GF is certain it works the same for her hunterpets, so if Wolves scale dynamically like permanent pets, that still means there's a chance the boosted stats persist a little bit longer after the buffs fade off you as a result of the pet having checked it's stats right b efore the buff faded, but not yet having re-checked.

This was my understanding as well. The upside in popping trinkets right before Feral Spirit is that doing so ensures that the wolves have the boosted stats, whereas popping trinkets immediately after Feral Spirit means that you cannot be sure when the stats will next be checked. Again, Blizzard may have updated the way the server checks for stats modifiers since the last time I tested this.

Me love Fire Nova

Enhance priority list.

Hi, I wanted to see if anyone had any information or reasoned opinions on delaying certain actions in anticipation of another action higher on the priority list about to come off cooldown. I.e. Earth Shock has <0.5 seconds left before it finished cooldown, Lava Lash has just come off cooldown but using it would mean that the subsequent ES (assuming nothing else higher on the priority list has become available) will be delayed by ~1 second due to the 1.5sec global cooldown incurred.

Is there any point at which delaying an action for this reason is worth it?
I would be interested in seeing what a sim would show, but that is not possible with the current EnhSim (not a criticism!).

I've always been afraid to try but, would our Fire Elemental pull Blood Beasts on Deathbringer Saurfang? It does cause threat, but would the threat be miniscule since the beasts dont take full AoE damage?

I've had mine pull aggro before and die quickly to a Blood Beast but it's a very rare thing. Make sure that you drop the totem when there are no Blood Beasts preset and that they aren't about to be summoned and it is a rare enough thing that it is definitely worth using the totem.