Shaman: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 21

doogless · 12/23/08, 2:38 PM

Here's what the professions provide:

Enchanting: 2 rings enchants (64 AP/38 spellpower/48 stam)
JC: 3 Dragon's Eye cuts - stat bonus is the difference between dragon's eye and normal gems ((54-32)*3 = 66 AP/(32-19)*3 = 39 spellpower/(41-24)*3 = 51 stam)
BSing: 2 extra sockets (64 AP/38 spellpower/48 stam)
LWing: bracer enchants - stat bonus is the difference between fur linings and normal enchants (114-50 = 64 AP/67-30 = 37 spellpower/90-40 = 30 stam)
Inscription: shoulder enchants - stat bonus is the difference between inscription BoPs and Sons of Hodir enchants (104-40 = 64 AP/61-24 = 37 spellpower/52-20 = 32 dodge)
Alchemy: mixology buff varies by flask/elixir, but it works out to be approximately the same stat boost as all the other professions.

Obviously with JC and BSing you could socket something like hit rating instead of attack or spell power if that had more value to you, I just used AP/spellpower/stam as a comparison to show that the stat value of the professions is approximately all the same.

pfg · 12/23/08, 8:16 PM

Is /cast [target=mouseover] xxxxx working for a mouse click with Clique or not when directly targeting a player in the world frame ? It works fine with a frame of any sort but I would really like it to work on players and can't seem to make that happen. It works fine with a keyboard shortcut. I am using Grid for raid frames and X-perl for all others. Also looked at the enabled frames and all have a check mark but there was no non-addon ones, ie nothing like world-frame.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Zyla · 12/25/08, 4:48 AM

Originally Posted by Rounced

Don't wind shock the frostbolts. Your lockout is 2 seconds so he is right back to casting practically immediately after while if they get pummeled or kicked or counterspelled the lockout is much longer.

Eh, It's my job to pretty much solo the frostbolts, given the short cooldown on windshock. I call if i cant get it and the tank just shield bashes it.

Typically only about 10 land on the tank ever between the two of us. I'll often have blocked 25+ a fight. But then, our other melee are bad with voidzones!

Rouncer · 12/25/08, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Zyla

Eh, It's my job to pretty much solo the frostbolts, given the short cooldown on windshock. I call if i cant get it and the tank just shield bashes it.

Typically only about 10 land on the tank ever between the two of us. I'll often have blocked 25+ a fight. But then, our other melee are bad with voidzones!

Between Rogues and Warriors and Mages there should be no need for you to Wind Shock any of them. Besides being a much shorter lockout it is a significant loss in dps for you to hold your shock cooldown for interruption, even with Wind Shock off the GCD. With Kick, Pummel and Counterspell all off the GCD it is a lot less of a dps loss for them to interrupt and it is more effective as well since the lockdown is longer.

For 25 man we have melee in 2 clumps with the tank in a 3rd spot, making a triangle around KT. Even if there is a voidzone in one pile there is always an interrupter in melee range between tank or the other pile and worse case it can be called on vent and a mage can interrupt as well.

Wind Shock on the Shock cooldown is just dumb. Blizzard really flubbed the ball with that spell. They had a perfect opportunity to give us a functional threat dump and interrupt and instead they left it on the shock cooldown making it a practically useless spell.

Krim · 12/26/08, 7:07 PM

Hello, I was glancing over the Resto Shaman Think Tank and saw the best in slot trinkets.

At the moment I use the JC Sapphire Owl with two 27 Intellect gems as one of my trinkets, I was wondering if this was a valuable alternative to the Je'tze's Bell or Soul of the Dead. I'm just curious as the Alchemy trinket is listed as another 'best in slot' but the JC trinket, with the appropiate gems, in my view is just as good - if not better.

So, am I overrating the Sapphire Owl?

Thanks in advance.

Saveyobutt · 12/26/08, 11:02 PM

Hello, I was glancing over the Resto Shaman Think Tank and saw the best in slot trinkets.

At the moment I use the JC Sapphire Owl with two 27 Intellect gems as one of my trinkets, I was wondering if this was a valuable alternative to the Je'tze's Bell or Soul of the Dead. I'm just curious as the Alchemy trinket is listed as another 'best in slot' but the JC trinket, with the appropiate gems, in my view is just as good - if not better.

So, am I overrating the Sapphire Owl?

Thanks in advance.

Yes the JC [Figurine - Sapphire Owl] trinket is good, since Shamans only have two ways to regain mana, [Item not found!] and [Runic Mana Potion] (this does not includes all other ways of mana regeneration inside a raid, such as Replenishment and a shadow preist). I personally think that it really depends on your gear. Because I have a raid buffed 21k mana pool and about 500 mp5 inside the 5 second rule, I almost never worry about mana because I am usually able to pop two mana tides and a pot. If you have a low mana pool and run out of mana frequently, then yes it is a good trinket. I also think it depends on the fight. For long, drawn out fights, such as Sapphiron, then having an extra way of gaining mana is useful. On short fights such as Patchwerk or Grobbulus, I use trinkets such as [The Egg of Mortal Essence] and [Spark of Life]. On long fights, I use [Mercurial Alchemist Stone] instead of my egg, as haste on a long, drawn out fight does not help if your dps cannot match the mana you are burning through to heal. It also gives me a greater effect on the pots I use, returning about 6-6.5k mana instead of 4.2-4.4k. Keep in mind as well that the badge totem [Totem of Forest Growth] and [Glyph of Mana Tide Totem] are two alternative ways to help conserve mana.

So the short answer to your question is that it depends on your gear and the fight, as all gear has its place in a certain fight. Sorry for rambling on too, kinda got a bit off track about the question =P, I was assuming that the foundation of your question comes from mana problems.

GAdmiralThrawn42 · 12/27/08, 12:39 AM

I have a question (I'm new to this site, and haven't found a search feature). I was reading the Shaman tips, and they recommend using only Earth Shock, no Flame Shock. I'm playing an elemental/enhancement shaman (mainly for Elemental Devastation), and am wondering if casting Flame Shock then immediately cast Lava burst (for the +9% crit) is a good idea. I usually hover around an 18-22% chance to crit (depending on buffs).

gilf · 12/27/08, 2:02 AM

Originally Posted by GAdmiralThrawn42

I have a question (I'm new to this site, and haven't found a search feature). I was reading the Shaman tips, and they recommend using only Earth Shock, no Flame Shock. I'm playing an elemental/enhancement shaman (mainly for Elemental Devastation), and am wondering if casting Flame Shock then immediately cast Lava burst (for the +9% crit) is a good idea. I usually hover around an 18-22% chance to crit (depending on buffs).

Using a spell with a cast time (such as LvB), interrupts all the other melee damage you would be doing (white, windfury, flametongue, etc.) and that this is a net loss to DPS. At the moment, there is a little discussion as to whether or not the swing timer is reset or simply delayed, but either way, you're losing out on a substantial amount of DPS during cast time. FS/LvB is most useful when you can't get into melee range for whatever reason (AoE, roots, whatever). The fact that Stormstrike is a personal debuff now means that Earthshock is generally superior to Flame Shock, as well.

The simulator will answer this more directly, of course.

Shamanator · 12/27/08, 9:34 PM

i did some tests on a heroic training dummy and my results came back that ft/ft slow/fast was the best dps choice for me, has anybody else tested this and is this due to my gear or was it a fluke? i did 3 tests with all imbues/wep speeds i have access to and this (overall) was best.

Zyla · 12/27/08, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Shamanator

i did some tests on a heroic training dummy and my results came back that ft/ft slow/fast was the best dps choice for me, has anybody else tested this and is this due to my gear or was it a fluke? i did 3 tests with all imbues/wep speeds i have access to and this (overall) was best.

Use the sim. Please!

Hilarius · 12/28/08, 1:48 AM

I just got [Mark of the War Prisoner], and I've been digging around on the forums and can't find any numbers on how it compares to [Forge Ember] for ele shamans. I already have more than enough hit to make good use out of the forge ember, but I also have alternate gear that would allow the +hit on the Mark to not go to waste, and I was just curious, straight up, which trinket would be better.

Edit: I guess to better phrase my question, how does the proc from the forge ember compare to the use ability on the Mark?

locriani · 12/28/08, 5:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hilarius

I just got [Mark of the War Prisoner], and I've been digging around on the forums and can't find any numbers on how it compares to [Forge Ember] for ele shamans. I already have more than enough hit to make good use out of the forge ember, but I also have alternate gear that would allow the +hit on the Mark to not go to waste, and I was just curious, straight up, which trinket would be better.

Edit: I guess to better phrase my question, how does the proc from the forge ember compare to the use ability on the Mark?

[Mark of the War Prisoner] grants 21.625 SP if it is used every CD.
[Forge Ember] grants between 64 to 113.8 SP based on the uptime of the proc (ICD of 45 seconds).

Shadovv · 12/28/08, 5:57 AM

For resto PvP, what are people's thoughts regarding the best meta gem? I have armory'd a few players and each seem to do something different. Just wondering if anyone can support an argument for a certain gem, primarily for solo healing a 5v5 team.

supermantwo · 12/28/08, 1:18 PM

how do you calculate the ep value for [Chaotic Skyflare Diamond] and [Relentless Earthsiege Diamond] ?

Keldarin · 12/29/08, 5:33 AM

Disregard this.