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Old 04/24/09, 5:29 PM   #801
Quirk
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Shaman
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Zarnu View Post
HELP.. i am not sure what to do...
Drop Glyph of Lava for Glyph of Flame Shock (wasting GCD to refresh FlS every LvB is probably eating up your DPS... if you're even refreshing it)

Pick up the Storm, Earth & Fire talents (especially if you're using CL in your rotation)

Keep in mind that you will only need to Flame Shock every time the debuff is low or has just fallen off mid-cast. Never cast a Lava Burst without your Flame Shock DoT ticking. Cast Lava Burst EVERY time it comes off cooldown next-cast. Use proper consumables - spellpower or haste food, Flask of the Frost Wyrm, and tie Potion of Wild Magic or Potion of Speec in with your Elemental Mastery ability.

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Old 04/24/09, 10:51 PM   #802
Rouncer
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Rouncer
Orc Shaman
 
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Originally Posted by Auramere View Post
I have a question for you guys. I put it by mistake in the trinket thread. Any ideas why Splintering would give me such a marked improvement in dps over Stonebreaker or Dueling? I know one piece of gear shouldn't do that, but can the introduction of a different class in the raid do that either? example. Night one: Naxx 25. I came out of it in 4th place overall damage/dps. I was pushing around 3600. Night two: Basically same raid except we had a mage with us. I changed my totem from Dueling to Splintering and shot up to 4200 dps and no 1 on the meter overall. *I hit 7k on Thaddius weee!!!* Did that totem make that much of a difference? I am going to link my armory, but I'm in ele spec and gear atm. If you like I can repost this when my armory reflects my enhace spec and gear later.

Also, can enhancement dps vary that wildly night to night? Must be some messed up math then.

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Mage brought you 5% spell crit and AI which is additional AP you didn't have before. That is what is accounting for the difference, not the totems. The other thing to keep in mind is that we are all slaves to RNG and it is not uncommon to see variation in your dps from fight to fight. That is why we run the sim for thousands of hours, to attempt to limit the RNG factor and bring reproducibility to the results.

Sim out your personal stats and use that to determine which totem to use, more then likely the Sim will tell you to use Dueling but that is something you will have to detemine for yourself. For maximum accuracy make sure to only put into the Sim the raid buffs/debuffs that you will have for the encounter and also try to set the time to match what you are expecting. The more accurate the information incorporated into the sim, the more accurate the results will be to your specific situation.

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Old 04/24/09, 11:04 PM   #803
Soulflare
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Jubei'Thos
Originally Posted by Auramere View Post
I have a question for you guys. I put it by mistake in the trinket thread. Any ideas why Splintering would give me such a marked improvement in dps over Stonebreaker or Dueling? I know one piece of gear shouldn't do that, but can the introduction of a different class in the raid do that either? example. Night one: Naxx 25. I came out of it in 4th place overall damage/dps. I was pushing around 3600. Night two: Basically same raid except we had a mage with us. I changed my totem from Dueling to Splintering and shot up to 4200 dps and no 1 on the meter overall. *I hit 7k on Thaddius weee!!!* Did that totem make that much of a difference? I am going to link my armory, but I'm in ele spec and gear atm. If you like I can repost this when my armory reflects my enhace spec and gear later.

Also, can enhancement dps vary that wildly night to night? Must be some messed up math then.

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Enhancement dps can vary due to the procs. In some fights if I get lucky with maelstrom stacks my dps will shoot up compared to other fights. But I do believe that just switching a totem will not give you that much of a difference in dps (3600 to 4200). It must be something else. There can be alot of other factors affecting your dps and its not like every single fight you can just stand in one place and do max dps.

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Old 04/27/09, 2:41 PM   #804
Trool
Glass Joe
 
Troll Shaman
 
Седогрив (EU)
Hola, amigos!
I've got a profession-related question. Im elemental and about to have Enchanting/JC.
Is it reasonable to roll Tailoring instead of Enchanting for Lightweave Embroidery? It's proc seems to be better than 38 sp from Enchanting. What do you think?

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Old 04/27/09, 10:08 PM   #805
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Hey guys, I'm not an elemental shammy but one of my friends is and i was looking for a baseline on where elemental shamans are dpswise as i have no clue where they are normally. I wouldn't ask here but he is our only elemental shaman and therefore I have no real comparison.

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Old 04/28/09, 10:02 PM   #806
Bartter2003
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Dark Iron
Why is my dps so low?

My guild and I were running Ulduar 25-man last night and after looking over the WWS I continued to find myself at the bottom or near bottom (one or two spots away) of the dps charts. I follow a simple rotation for Elemental Shamans...

Fs -> LvB -> LB -> LB -> LB/LvB and repeat. But when it comes to mobs I mix in CL.

I'm in full 25man Naxx gear and a few peices of 10/25man Ulduar. My SP is 1,739 unbuffed and my crit is 27% with haste at 491.

WoW Armory Alternative - Nameless Armory Profiles.

My question is what am I doing wrong? What can I change to make my DPS higher? Also should I use CL even during boss fights?

Thank you.

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Old 04/29/09, 3:56 AM   #807
CFF
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Tauren Shaman
 
Stormscale (EU)
Hi there.

I managed to get my hands on the Thunderfall Totem when me my guild downed XT last week but I'm not really sure about whether it's better then the Totem of Hex or not?

Any thoughts on that?

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Old 04/29/09, 4:27 AM   #808
exschwizer
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Draenei Shaman
 
Kult der Verdammten (EU)
Originally Posted by CFF View Post
Hi there.

I managed to get my hands on the Thunderfall Totem when me my guild downed XT last week but I'm not really sure about whether it's better then the Totem of Hex or not?

Any thoughts on that?
My thoughts on that? Use the search-function and/or just read the page before last before posting. Post #788 and #789 cover your question. (Hex > Thunderfall)

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Old 04/30/09, 3:05 AM   #809
paranoidkiwie
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Antonidas
I tried a search through all the class forums and haven't come up with any clean answers. For this card, Darkmoon Card: Death, I've seen a few posts trying to rank how good it might be post-3.1.0-buff, but many of those focused towards a death knight or other class. I've found a few posts of people asking about it, but no good napkin math on it. Rawr 2.2.1 for enhance shaman doesn't seem to model the proc, and I haven't figured out how to throw it into enhsim. My initial thoughts are that since crit strike isn't *that* strong of a stat and hit capping spells is so important, for my middlish geared shaman (naxx10 mostly with a few 25man), Mirror of Truth and Sphere of Red Dragon's Blood (+55 hit, on use +AP) would be a stronger combination of trinkets?

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Old 04/30/09, 7:06 AM   #810
guntski
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Eonar (EU)
I have a question about Elemental Shaman.

I raid Ulduar and occasionally we have another elemental shaman. Which brought up the question about dropping other fire totems.

Is Elemental Shamans DPS supposed to include the DPS from a searing or Magma totem, or is it based on the concept that we drop ToW?

By my basic calculations searing totem would grant:

105 average base damage.
16.67% coefficient per attack
2919 spell power (when raid buffed)
Total592 damage per shot

1.15 for call of flame
1.13 for Earth and moon/CoE/Ebon plague
1.03 from ret paly

592*1.13*1.15*1.03 = 792 damage per shot

Crit rate of about 45%, gives 792*2.09*0.45 + 792*(1-0.45)= 1180 average damage, per 2 seconds. = 590 DPS.

So is the DPS of elemental shaman supposed to incorporate this 590 DPS (e.g. we are 5% behind Mages including this 590 DPS), or is this additional to our normal DPS?

Couldn't find anything else about this so far on EJ. Sorry if I missed something.

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Old 04/30/09, 7:43 AM   #811
Teenee
Piston Honda
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Has anyone else noticed how weak Water Shield has become? It does not seem to be triggered by any AoE anymore. Most of the fights in Ulduar involve massive raid wide AoE damage, but I'm not seeing any charges being consumed. Looking at mana regen sources in Recount, WS is waaay down on the list compared to other sources (Thunderstorm is regenning 3 times as much).

Maybe my memory is false, but I do recall WS being an excellent regen source, in for instance Black Temple, fights such as Teron. Anyone else notice this? And when did this change happen?

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Old 04/30/09, 8:47 AM   #812
• Jessamy
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Goblin Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Which fights are you referring to? I have been very happy with Water Shield mana regen on fights with raid-wide aoe damage. For those fights I sometimes have to remember to watch my party members' mana to drop Mana Tide. Bear in mind that environmental damage (think swimming through lava to reach the Blackrock Mountain instances) does not trigger the shield.

Also remember that until they hotfixed us we were receiving both Mana Spring and Blessing of Wisdom, gaining 91 or more mp5 that we weren't supposed to have. In 3.0 Blizzard noticed healers had too much mana, trivializing some healing decisions, and deliberately nerfed us. This is something they intend for us to adapt to, whether by gearing differently, or healing differently. Mana was never an issue for me in tier 7, except after ankh or receiving a druid rez. Now sometimes it is an issue. It's a new game.

As to your Thunderstorm comment, I have never played Elemental so I don't know about that, but it's always seemed like a nice benefit, especially glyphed.

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Old 04/30/09, 10:01 AM   #813
Teenee
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Draenei Shaman
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Well, specifically, I had Kologarn's Shockwave in mind, which I noticed wasn't causing any orbs to consume. Edit: Another one, that I just recalled is Mimiron's phase 2, when he randomly shoots at people, that doesn't cause orbs to consume either.

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Old 05/01/09, 12:49 PM   #814
Frostshockz
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Stormrage
Heroism and Potion of Speed . . .

As an enhancement shaman - do you try to stack these together for a much stronger DPS punch or do you stack them out to "extend" heroism? I know there can be some variation from fight to fight, but I am just curious as to the general consensus.

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Old 05/01/09, 9:13 PM   #815
Quaglia
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Orc Shaman
 
Jaedenar (EU)
Question for Enhancement PvP
Last night a [Kinetic Ripper] dropped from Flame Leviathan, nobody else needed it and I took it, thinking of using it for PvP, since I have only 1 Angry Dread as off-hand which is enchanted with Berserking, which IMO is not the best enchant for PvP.
I am planning to enchant the KR with Mongoose, but still I am unsure if it would be a better weapon for PvP vs. a slow off-hand like [Pride].
Also, should I imbue the KR with Flametongue or Frostbrand?

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Old 05/01/09, 11:57 PM   #816
Rouncer
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Originally Posted by Quaglia View Post
Question for Enhancement PvP
Last night a [Kinetic Ripper] dropped from Flame Leviathan, nobody else needed it and I took it, thinking of using it for PvP, since I have only 1 Angry Dread as off-hand which is enchanted with Berserking, which IMO is not the best enchant for PvP.
I am planning to enchant the KR with Mongoose, but still I am unsure if it would be a better weapon for PvP vs. a slow off-hand like [Pride].
Also, should I imbue the KR with Flametongue or Frostbrand?
I hope you are an Enchanter since the only good use for that Kinetic Ripper for Enhancement is as a Shard.

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Old 05/02/09, 2:46 AM   #817
Haalun
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Draenei Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by Frostshockz View Post
Heroism and Potion of Speed . . .

As an enhancement shaman - do you try to stack these together for a much stronger DPS punch or do you stack them out to "extend" heroism? I know there can be some variation from fight to fight, but I am just curious as to the general consensus.
The haste effects from Potion of speed and Heroism are independent and they multiply. Thus, you will gain more DPS by stacking them.

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Old 05/03/09, 11:15 AM   #818
AlexS
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Azgalor
A question about gemming and enchants:

Lets say I'm hit and expertise capped, have 3000 ap and 30% crit chance unbuffed. Now, do I try to get more agi or more attack power? I.e. [Enchant Gloves - Crusher] or [Enchant Gloves - Major Agility] for glove enchantment, [Crimson Sun] or [Delicate Fire Ruby] for a gem slot?

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Old 05/04/09, 12:27 AM   #819
Haalun
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Draenei Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
A question about gemming and enchants:

Lets say I'm hit and expertise capped, have 3000 ap and 30% crit chance unbuffed. Now, do I try to get more agi or more attack power? I.e. [Enchant Gloves - Crusher] or [Enchant Gloves - Major Agility] for glove enchantment, [Crimson Sun] or [Delicate Fire Ruby] for a gem slot?
Use EnhSim to figure out the EP values for various stats, and you'll know what to gem and enchant for. In general, once you are hit and exp capped, you want to gem for AP unless a stat has EP value higher than 2, which at some gear levels can happen with haste or crit. You have to sim it to know what is right for you.

Also, and this should be obvious, don't use level 70 gems. [Bright Scarlet Ruby] and [Quick Autumn's Glow] are what you want to look at.

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Old 05/04/09, 3:47 AM   #820
Kalaar
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Proudmoore
Enhancement

I have seen this on many shaman post 3.1 but I dont understand why and I cant seem to find it anywhere although I may have missed it.

Why are people taking 2/2 Imp Stormstrike over putting more points into Ancestral Knowledge. I was under the impression that mana wasnt an issue with SR. What am I missing?

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Old 05/04/09, 4:22 AM   #821
Haalun
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Draenei Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by Kalaar View Post
Enhancement

I have seen this on many shaman post 3.1 but I dont understand why and I cant seem to find it anywhere although I may have missed it.

Why are people taking 2/2 Imp Stormstrike over putting more points into Ancestral Knowledge. I was under the impression that mana wasnt an issue with SR. What am I missing?
Your link didn't seem to work. Personally, I find 1/2 Improved Stormstrike necessary to maintain a mana cycle, even with full raid buffs. Otherwise I'm OOM for about 15 seconds from one SR to the next on long fights with my max DPS rotation, which is a greater DPS loss than the gain from an extra point in a straight DPS talent.

In addition, if you trade points out of Imp SS, Ancestral Knowledge is about the worst place to put them, in terms of DPS gain. Call of Flame, Reverberation and Improved Shields will all yield more DPS per point, probably in about that order. You can use EnhSim to determine the best talent spec for your current gear.

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Old 05/04/09, 7:55 AM   #822
ddtseabee
Glass Joe
 
Undead Priest
 
Agamaggan
[Resto -PVE]

I'm trying to help a guildie who plays a resto shammy. My main is a priest and I find the WotLK Healing Compendium v3.1 in EJ's priest section invaluable. I haven't found a similar thread here for Resto that summarizes current thinking. Can someone point me to the appropriate thread (or just say it doesn't exist)?

If it doesn't exist, a quick pointer to where to get started would be appreciated. Looks like there is a mountain of info in here and I'm preparing the waders.

I'm looking for the beginnings: specs, glyphs, stat preferences, spells/rotations, etc. Basically the common wisdom stuff. We're not ready for the high end theorycrafting yet.

TIA
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Old 05/04/09, 9:03 AM   #823
donor
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Darksorrow (EU)
You mean something like this: TTT Shaman: Restoration ?

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Old 05/04/09, 5:22 PM   #824
Sphendule1001
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Jaedenar
I tried using the search function to find the answer to this question in here and on the entire Shaman forums, but I couldn't discern a clear answer.

I was just wondering what the "paper doll" of one's character is? My best guess would be that it's with all armor on but no buffs, including weapon imbues, but I just want to be told straight up if my guess is correct so that I don't skew my simulations. I just recently found a way to get enhsim to run on my mac by using VMware Fusion (yeah, it's a cop-out way... I already had it from before I wanted to run enhsim when I was trying to do something else), so I wanted to make sure I did things the right way.

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Old 05/05/09, 7:05 AM   #825
Nexaris
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Aszune (EU)
Hey - i got a little problem.
Should i replace in my offhand [Angry Dread] with [Daschal's Bite] ? ( 65 AP on mace and Berserk on dagger )

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