Shaman: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 56

Haalun · 05/05/09, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by Nexaris

Hey - i got a little problem.
Should i replace in my offhand [Angry Dread] with [Daschal's Bite] ? ( 65 AP on mace and Berserk on dagger )

Use a simulator such as EnhSim to find out. But most likely not - slow offhands will beat fast offhands by 100-200dps even if they are lower item level. So put berserking on your Angry Dread, don't waste it on the dagger.

jontaxe · 05/06/09, 12:30 PM

My DPS is horrid. I can rarely reach, and never exceed (gimicky fights excluded, of course) ~3500 dps (25 man raid buffed). Almost always dead last on ye olde wow web stats.

Every now and then, we will run with a second elemental shaman and he outdpses me by casting more spells. More lightning bolts (or CL), to be specific, usually to the tune of ~30% more LB/CL. This was even on Patchwerk, so it shouldn't be an issue of his being 30% better. He has less haste than me. We usually have roughly the same number of lava bursts, all of them crit, etc. etc. All the usual things.

I'm on Fios internet, I run WoW windowed at the same resolution as the desktop, I have recount, Miks, Event Horizon, Totem Timer, DBM, and Quartz.

One thing I noticed (Quartz is a recentish addition) is that the red latency bar on quartz will steadily increase as I go through the rotation, often spiking to ~500ms and sometimes as far as ~750ms, but since I am not sure what that number represents I do not know how it should be affecting my behavior.

Typical non Dalaran latency varies from ~50 - ~150.

I have my spells either keybound or mousewheel bound and hit them like a lab monkey hitting the bar for crack.

For anyone going to the armory, ignore the fact that I am not hit capped. I just got the new gloves, I haven't regemmed, I have always been hit capped, that is not the problem.

I just switched to elemental, so I have no previous TBC experience to compare and contrast.

Any help would be much appreciated, else it's back to resto and staring at green bars!

• Caladiera · 05/06/09, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by jontaxe

One thing I noticed (Quartz is a recentish addition) is that the red latency bar on quartz will steadily increase as I go through the rotation, often spiking to ~500ms and sometimes as far as ~750ms, but since I am not sure what that number represents I do not know how it should be affecting my behavior.

Typical non Dalaran latency varies from ~50 - ~150.

The latency bar on Quartz is amazing when you have high latency, but not very effective at low latency (which it looks like you normally maintain.)

I'd suggest going to a test dummy and trying to spam cast lightning bolt (healing wave works as well) to get an idea of how accurate the latency bar is for you.

Also another problem one of our new ele's have is the yips. They tend to move a tad to things that might happen, clipping a cast.

shabbaz · 05/06/09, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by jontaxe

My DPS is horrid. I can rarely reach, and never exceed (gimicky fights excluded, of course) ~3500 dps (25 man raid buffed). Almost always dead last on ye olde wow web stats.

Every now and then, we will run with a second elemental shaman and he outdpses me by casting more spells. More lightning bolts (or CL), to be specific, usually to the tune of ~30% more LB/CL. This was even on Patchwerk, so it shouldn't be an issue of his being 30% better. He has less haste than me. We usually have roughly the same number of lava bursts, all of them crit, etc. etc. All the usual things.

Any help would be much appreciated, else it's back to resto and staring at green bars!

From what I can see of your Armory, you have a few wasted gem slots. You only need 2 blue gems, the rest you can shove in 19SP gems. That could help. Also if your haste was a tad higher, I think it's around 520 you'll be able to get an extra LB in your rotation.

Lon · 05/07/09, 12:21 AM

One thing I noticed (Quartz is a recentish addition) is that the red latency bar on quartz will steadily increase as I go through the rotation, often spiking to ~500ms and sometimes as far as ~750ms, but since I am not sure what that number represents I do not know how it should be affecting my behavior.

The red portion of Quartz is telling you the latency of the request being sent from Client side (your PC) to the Server.

Taken from Wowace.com

*Latency

Displays the amount of time spent between cast send and start events, in the form of a bar at the end of your casting bar, with optional text that displays the actual duration of the lag. This helps in canceling casts when they will not actually be interrupted, especially for users with consistently high pings

Ash · 05/07/09, 5:22 AM

Originally Posted by jontaxe

My DPS is horrid. I can rarely reach, and never exceed (gimicky fights excluded, of course) ~3500 dps (25 man raid buffed). Almost always dead last on ye olde wow web stats.

Your choice of gems and your gear selection for a few spots (trinket, chest, belt) are holding you back. As shabbaz said above, get the 2 blue gems you need for meta activation and then fill everything else with spellpower gems.
Also if you haven't already read thru http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/ and [Elemental] WWS & Gearing help thread.

Quaglia · 05/07/09, 7:15 PM

Has anybody converted the T 7.5 Enhancement set bonus in EP values - Your Flurry effect provides an additional 5% melee haste?

While the Sim could help in determining DPS, the EP values are still a bit unclear.
Many have to decide if it is worth breaking the set for the new items dropping from Ulduar.

Talaus-Mok'Nathal · 05/08/09, 3:04 AM

It's pretty easy to do yourself. With a Flurry uptime of 80% and a haste EP value of 2, you're looking at 5% haste*25.22(haste rating/haste%)*.8*2=201.76. Just substitute your own uptime and EP values for the last two numbers.

Haalun · 05/08/09, 7:31 AM

Originally Posted by Quaglia

Has anybody converted the T 7.5 Enhancement set bonus in EP values - Your Flurry effect provides an additional 5% melee haste?

While the Sim could help in determining DPS, the EP values are still a bit unclear.
Many have to decide if it is worth breaking the set for the new items dropping from Ulduar.

Determine the DPS value of the set bonus, and then divide by the DPS per point of AP - that's included in the EnhSim EP calculation output, and should be around 0.60. This will give you the EP value of the set bonus. I think for many people, it won't be worth breaking 4-piece T7 until you can get 2-piece T8.

brahmabull754 · 05/09/09, 4:12 PM

Nevermind, found something.

BelziBhaal · 05/10/09, 3:42 PM

I'm currently playing around with my Twink Shaman Spunkbucket of Blackrock and I am trying to find a better 1 hander for both main and offhand for level 60 besides the GM weapons. Instancing is out of the question, as my shaman is less than 2k off 61, due to the 3.0 experience change, though I could always do the trick of running in, dying and having a mate kill the bosses for me, but that seems a little bit on the annoying side, not to mention that I can't think of a good 1 hander that a Shaman can use from Ramparts.

Can anyone please suggest a better 1 hander than [Grand Marshal's Right Hand Blade]?

Imadraenei · 05/10/09, 10:57 PM

A quick Wowhead search showed [Blessed Qiraji War Axe] as the only thing that could possibly compete (other than the old Naxx weapons that you can't get anymore), but the 2.9 speed on the GM weapons makes them pretty much the best thing ever.

Kallell · 05/11/09, 12:35 PM

I'm leveling my first shaman (elemental), and had a quick question about the Clearcasting proc.

I read in the Think Tank this quote:

the fact that charges are generated on spell hits, but consumed on spell casts

What I do right now is if I see the proc happen, say on the killing blow of a mob, I rush over to the next mob to kill it before the timer runs out. Am I correct in assuming that as long as I START the cast before the timer is out, that I still gain the mana reduction? Hopefully I haven't been wasting time here. I've also figured out that if I need to heal myself, obviously using a Clearcast charge on a heal is much more efficient than on Lightning Bolt, every little bit of mana helps!

Chaen · 05/11/09, 12:48 PM

That is incorrect, Kallell. Consumed on spell casts is when the spell is finished casting, i.e. when the Lightning Bolt leaves your hands.

Frostshockz · 05/12/09, 4:28 PM

Haste for enhancement:

Obviously this is impacting our white dmg, and by indirect relationship Maelstorm weapon. It will also lower our ES and LB GCD.

2 questions:

1) If you use shocking glyph, does haste no longer impact your GCD for ES?
2) What about LL/SS. Are these GCD impacted by haste?

Thanks . . ..