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Old 05/06/09, 6:26 AM   #76
madmaveric
Glass Joe
 
Human Shaman
 
Terenas (EU)
Originally Posted by Nagisamuro View Post
Many addons support the use of 'profiles', which are just a way to save the configuration of the addon with a name and recall those settings later (or on a different character). However, I am not aware of any way to extend that concept to cover the entire collection of whatever addons you happen to be using in one single swappable profile.

Someone, in this or one of the other UI threads, mentioned that they just have two separate World of Warcraft installations on their computer, and fire up one if they are going to use UI #1, or fire up the other to use UI #2. It's not the most convenient scheme, but it does the trick.
I tried something different for simply turning on and off addons. This doesn't have profiles but is more for things like turning off questhelper, auctioneer etc when your raiding.

Note: I’m at work so the filenames etc are off the top of my head so may be incorrect, but if you can’t work it out then you probably shouldn’t mess with these files anyway :P

I looked into this some time back. I just wanted to icons on my vista desktop so that I could just start wow with the different add-ons depending on what I’m going to be doing. I.e. If I’m logging in to raid or quest as normally I log out in between raiding/questing (normally to post/delete the combat log without worry of the cashing wow does) so I don’t really need the in game switch so much.

The way I tried it was to have 2 copies of my addon file (from the realm/char directories) one called raid-addons.txt and one called quest-addons.txt.
I then modified these to enable/disable the add-ons I wanted for each of these.
Then I created a batch file for each of these such that they did something like the following

File Raid.bat
1. Delete wow/wtf/<realm>/<char>/addon.txt
2. copy raid-addons.txt -> wow/wtf/<realm>/<char>/addon.txt
2. wow.exe

File quest.bat
1. Delete wow/wtf/<realm>/<char>/addon.txt
2. copy quest-addons.txt -> wow/wtf/<realm>/<char>/addon.txt
2. wow.exe

Then just create a desktop shortcut and use these to start wow. I never got round to testing this out completely but it seemed to work (PC crash wiped out everything and I never got round to re doing this but thought this may help someone else)

you could potentially have different ui's using this by copying your wtf/addon folders without having to have a complete wow copy taking up lots of space.

Hope this helps (and it's in tune with this thread)

Last edited by madmaveric : 05/06/09 at 6:37 AM.

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Old 05/06/09, 9:58 AM   #77
sanna
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Wrathbringer (EU)
Or you could try Addon Control Panel. I think the "Set" function could serve you well.

Addon Control Panel - Addons - Curse

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Old 05/06/09, 11:47 AM   #78
madmaveric
Glass Joe
 
Human Shaman
 
Terenas (EU)
Originally Posted by sanna View Post
Or you could try Addon Control Panel. I think the "Set" function could serve you well.

Addon Control Panel - Addons - Curse
Interesting addon. I'll be having a look at that.

One thing I'm currently looking at is the lag caused by my add-ons. There is definitely an increase in lag with everything loaded. Performance-fu even reports metahud as using up to 15% CPU at times :O (although I'm not convinced completely as to the validity of the usage from performance-fu as some add-ons are reported by others, ie some add-ons show no or little cpu usage as their usage is lumped in with fubar)

The reason I took the above route was to try and be sure that I only had the minimum needed add-ons loaded when raiding (and not just hidden still taking up memory and cpu).

Does anyone know of a viable way to measure addon cpu usage (or can confirm that performance-fu is accurate). I was going to start a thread for lag busting ideas but I'm not allowed to post a new thread yet :P


Updated:
Just realised this is king of going off topic :P I'll save it until I can make enough contributions and start a seperate post (although being a new healer means it could take a while before I can contribute to the uber threads on here )

Last edited by madmaveric : 05/06/09 at 12:02 PM.

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Old 05/06/09, 12:42 PM   #79
Fenix500
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Draenei Shaman
 
Ravencrest
I recently graduated my ele shammy to 80 and have been taking him to raids. I was using needtoknow to track the time left on my Flame Shock debuff, however, things got a little annoying in a OS pug the other day when there were multiple shamans FS'ing Sarth. N2K seemed to keep resetting to whoever most recently applied Flame Shock, making it a bit more mental work (although, Flame shock before the 3rd LvB is not exactly rocket science) to keep up my debuff. Yes, I had it set to track only my debuff.

With that in mind, does anyone know of a mod that would track these sorts of things well when a target is hit with multiple flame shocks? Is such a tracking possible? I've tried searching on Curse, but didn't have any luck finding anything that worked.

Last edited by Fenix500 : 05/07/09 at 5:39 PM.

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Old 05/06/09, 1:26 PM   #80
Handyhoof
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Lightbringer
When looking at a mob's debuff bar, the ones for which you are responsible are first in line. I'm assuming you're keeping the boss targeted (and visually present) while you dps. The first icon on the dragon is yours.

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Old 05/06/09, 1:28 PM   #81
Mman
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Shattered Hand
Originally Posted by madmaveric View Post
Does anyone know of a viable way to measure addon cpu usage (or can confirm that performance-fu is accurate). I was going to start a thread for lag busting ideas but I'm not allowed to post a new thread yet :P

I don't know a perfect way of measuring cpu usage, but what has always worked for me is using monitors in conjunction with trial and error. If a report is leading you suspect that a specific addon is giving you a problem, disable it and see what the reports/your cpu usage changes to. If there is measurable improvement then decide if the addon is worth it or not. The only problem with this is that it can be hard to create a good stress test outside of a raid setting.

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Old 05/06/09, 5:30 PM   #82
• Jessamy
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Originally Posted by Fenix500 View Post
With that in mind, does anyone know of a mod that would track these sorts of things well when a target is hit with multiple flame shocks? Is such a tracking possible? I've tried searching on Curse, but didn't have any luck finding anything that worked.
Power Auras works great for that. I've never played as Elemental, but I need to track Serpent Sting on my target when I play my hunter alt. With multiple hunters in a raid, making sure that I keep my dot ticking was frustrating with multiple hunters' stings on a target. Power Auras can provide a friendly visual when my dot drops off. Here's a handy tutorial for learning how to use the addon:

BigRedKitty: Power Auras

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Old 05/07/09, 9:46 AM   #83
ashopedies
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Orc Shaman
 
Teldrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by Fenix500 View Post
N2K seemed to keep resetting to whoever most recently applied Flame Shock, making it a bit more mental work (although, Flame shock before the 3rd LvB is not exactly rocket science) to keep up my debuff.
Are you sure your NeedToKnow version is up to date? The author just recently updated the addon for 3.1, so the version on wowinterface should absolutely work. Be sure that you have the option checked, that only your own debuffs should be tracked.

Shields Up! - Resto Shaman Blog

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Old 05/07/09, 10:42 AM   #84
Fenix500
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Draenei Shaman
 
Ravencrest
Originally Posted by ashopedies View Post
Are you sure your NeedToKnow version is up to date? The author just recently updated the addon for 3.1, so the version on wowinterface should absolutely work. Be sure that you have the option checked, that only your own debuffs should be tracked.
I hadn't realized that - I just grabbed the updated version. Power Auras also worked perfectly fine last night, and is a great alternative. I prefer the bars of NeedToKnow over the graphic that Power Auras supplies, though.

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Old 05/07/09, 11:21 AM   #85
Kishkegelt
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Troll Shaman
 
Bloodhoof
Originally Posted by Fenix500 View Post
I recently graduated my ele shammy to 80 and have been taking him to raids. I was using needtoknow to track the time left on my Flame Shock debuff, however, things got a little annoying in a OS pug the other day when there were multiple shamans FS'ing Sarth. N2K seemed to keep resetting to whoever most recently applied Flame Shock, making it a bit more mental work (although, Flame shock before the 3rd LvB is not exactly rocket science) to keep up my debuff.

With that in mind, does anyone know of a mod that would track these sorts of things well when a target is hit with multiple flame shocks? Is such a tracking possible? I've tried searching on Curse, but didn't have any luck finding anything that worked.
Although I believe you can set NTK to only track your own Flame Shock, at some point in the recent past that was either not true or I didn't know it, and I went looking for something else. Consider Event Horizon, which has an elemental shaman profile. It's pretty great for managing your rotations.

It's not very configurable, and I wish there were some reporting tools attached to it as that, I suspect, could enhance rotation management. But it's pretty darn good.

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Old 05/07/09, 3:59 PM   #86
madmaveric
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Human Shaman
 
Terenas (EU)
Originally Posted by Mman View Post
I don't know a perfect way of measuring cpu usage, but what has always worked for me is using monitors in conjunction with trial and error. If a report is leading you suspect that a specific add-on is giving you a problem, disable it and see what the reports/your cpu usage changes to. If there is measurable improvement then decide if the add-on is worth it or not. The only problem with this is that it can be hard to create a good stress test outside of a raid setting.
Good idea. I don't have any problems as such at the moment but if I notice an add-on taking up lots of memory or seemingly causing lag I tend to look for others.

I only recently started looking at this as I'm now writing a totem add-on (to show who has dropped what totem in a raid so I can see what is missing before I drop mine) and noticed that a badly written add-on could use up lots of cpu while doing nothing. Hence my interest in seeing if there was a good way of checking them.

I do plan on removing all my add-ons at some point and starting again, over time I have ended up with far too many (some I don't even have turned on any more) so I will be watching these threads with interest.

Edit: The addon I'm currently writing is called TotemGuru on curse if anyone is interested.

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Old 05/12/09, 2:36 PM   #87
LockApologist
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Undead Warlock
 
Mug'thol
Sixthy,

What resolution do you play at?

I liked your UI, and installed your zip file. However, the UI scale is set to minimum, and, at the 1440x900 I play at, the UI text is TINY. I can config Prat, Pitbull, etc to use a larger font, but the blizz stuff is nearly unreadable (the AH is my pet peeve atm). Changing the UI scale just throws everything out of place and no amount of adjusting would get things back in place.

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Old 05/12/09, 3:59 PM   #88
Sixthy
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Originally Posted by LockApologist View Post
Sixthy,

What resolution do you play at?

I liked your UI, and installed your zip file. However, the UI scale is set to minimum, and, at the 1440x900 I play at, the UI text is TINY. I can config Prat, Pitbull, etc to use a larger font, but the blizz stuff is nearly unreadable (the AH is my pet peeve atm). Changing the UI scale just throws everything out of place and no amount of adjusting would get things back in place.
1680 x 1050 wide

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Old 06/03/09, 9:15 AM   #89
marr
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Draenei Shaman
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Hey, This thread has steered me in the right direction as to building a comfortable raiding UI that benefits my play style.
I agree with a lot that has been posted here regarding the layout of an effective healer especially.
Having taken a large break from WoW and came back just before Ulduar, I feel that my choices up to late would be a worthy addition to show how my personal UI has developed for my play style. I felt that I needed to change my UI up a bit form the old Hal UI due to the amount of screen it takes up, I felt that I need to be more aware than the days of 70.


I felt that I needed to see more of my screen, reduce the memory I use on addons to increase not just my computers frame rate performance, but the ability for me to more speedily react to situations within a new raid dungeon. It must be noted that my PC’s spec is an Intel Core i7, but what I notice with the WoW client is that a bloated UI (in memory consumption terms) does drop fps by a considerable amount.
I settled with adapting Lotek’s UI for my own use as a Resto Shaman, this worked well early on, I could see a lot more and I did yield an increase in raiding frame rates. I preferred not seeing my bars and only seeing cooldowns only, also having the ability to see directly in the centre a what my target was doing, which I feel is very important for any fight that requires movement, a healer out of range or ill prepared is unacceptable.


I then ran into problems that stacking the UI up centrally cause me to have difficulty seeing such things as rockets on Mimiron and alike, this made me think at how I could alleviate this problem. When looking through other peoples layouts, one that I particularly felt would be beneficial to the way I play was Menkt’s UI. His unit frame on the right hand side with the raid there, personally I preferred my Raid to the right to prevent me from focusing purely on grid, Which again was an annoyance with the previous layout as I would find myself lost within grid and been slower to react to changes to the raid.
Using the same unit frames and core mods as Lotek’s UI (primarily due to memory consumption levels) I switched them around. I feel like I can still focus on my target 100% as the previous, yet freeing up a lot of space around my character to allow me to be more aware of what is going on during raids.


To Do’s for this alteration would be find a suitable place for my focus frames, at the moment then are stuck to the right of the target for ease of sight. Also a way of altering how/where debuffs show so I can be more aware of adjustments I need to make. Also with the inclusion of Forte Exorcist (props to Meka for showing just how much of a strong mod this is) I feel that the cooldown bar at the bottom is redundant.

Any thoughts/suggestions/critiques are very welcome.

Last edited by marr : 06/03/09 at 10:10 AM.

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Old 06/04/09, 4:06 PM   #90
Juice
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Mal'Ganis
I'm beginning draconian moderation of this thread. A couple more non-useful posts that do not enrich the EJ Shaman community, and I'm killing it.

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Old 07/04/09, 3:09 AM   #91
dioxy
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Draenei Shaman
 
Spirestone
Anyone happen to have a good ENH Shaman UI?

I like Simple/Clean

~Looking for one that has good pvp/pve addons (I do arenas + raids) as enh/enh

~I hate grid for PvE prefer xperl's (look)


Mine terribly sucks lol, and I have no idea how to use certain addons I.E KGpanels.

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