Pyrelight Circle
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Finger
+63 Stamina
+42 Intellect
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 46 (1% @ L80).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 36 (1.1% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 74.

Nebula Band
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Finger
+48 Stamina
+36 Intellect
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Critical Strike Rating
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 46 (1% @ L80).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 36 (1.1% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 74.

Nebula Band is essentially the same thing but has an extra yellow socket which 6 extra int that the pyrelight circle has is not gonna make up.

Remember, the items listed below the BiS lists are not in any order. With that being said, it would not be a true BiS list with two sets of variables. The only two variables that are there are Horde vs Alliance. Other than that, it would almost be impossible to set a BiS list based on specific raid comps. A static BiS list is set, factoring in every possible buff, with a perfect raid comp. You will need to adjust your own items based on your current raid comp (I have about 5 trinkets and other random items that I swap around, based on what fights, and what raid comp I am currently running). Running some numbers, I am showing if you use the perfect BiS items, you can swap out one of your trinkets (highly dependent on the current fights/comps to figure out which trinket), with a [Dying Curse], and it shows that it would put you at or above hit cap if you were raiding sans hit buff (at least, it is that way with Alliance, as I have yet to check Horde to verify if that is true with them as well).


On a separate note,, I have noticed [Nebula Band] being better than [Pyrelight Circle]. I honestly have no updated the true BiS list, due to the fact that I am currently trying to rework them a bit (see THIS post).

I would like to set up a Heroic, 10m, 25m and 25m w/Hard Modes lists. Until either myself or someone else gives me the lists, they will be hard to update (and am currently busy IRL to spend much time doing it, so I only get so much done per day). The ring is listed individually, but as it stands right now, yes [Nebula Band] is the BiS ring, followed by [Signet of Manifested Pain].

You should be able to save yourself some time and skip doing the Heroic list, as it's unlikely that someone who never raids wants to min/max. And if they did, they'd at least attempt to find 5 other people and do a 10 man naxx, which is easily puggable.

Also you can now link [Starshard Edge] for the 3rd BIS list in the first post.

I am working on finishing up all of my BiS lists. The one list I am missing is a 10m (with and without Hard Modes). Has anyone compiled a 10m BiS list (one that doesn't include 25m gear)? I have not spent much time looking for only 10m gear. Thanks in advance!

I was just wondering how Pharos Gloves and Conqueror's Worldbreaker Kilt compared to Conqueror's Worldbreaker Gloves and Leggings of Enslaved Idol. Was just wondering how that might affect the Algalon included BiS list. I did whatever math I knew how to do and they both came out close with the latter combination coming out slightly ahead, but I just wanted to confirm it.

The biggest thing about Pharos vs Enslaved Idol is the fact that you'd lose 14 hit from the switch. From my BIS list, it's not worth the switch. However, if your current gear setup can support the hit loss (or if you're Draenei - I haven't done any real math with that into account), then Pharos is a bigger gain over T8 than Enslaved.

You only want to make a BIS list for currently available items. As once we have access to new gems, we'll have access to brand new gear, most of which should replace the vast majority of items we have now.

I guess so, but it would be nice to be off on the best foot for patch day.

That is very true. I plan, once we get more loot discovered to take a look into it. I have a rough sketch at the moment for it, but definately not finalized. I am working on multiple things, but I hope to have it all set up and going before the patch actually hits.

I was wondering for a while , which of the gloves are better ? [Gloves of Whispering Winds] drop from Freya HM Uld10 or our tier 8.5 hands ? Saw no reference on them in this entire post and I am leaning towards the gloves dropped from freya to be slightly better.
Any help ?

It all depends on what you would be sacrificing. You should make a note of never sacrificing your 4 piece bonus, more so for pieces with no itemlevel gain. Personally I favour a haste-heavy gear build, which requires (ideally) replacing the helm with Resto 8.5 for non-hit or Wyrmhunter for hit. The gloves we have are well-enough itemized I don't feel they're worth changing as they create more gear options while maintaining your 4pc bonus.

This is the closest attempt to what I could come up with as the new BiS List. This is based off any items we know of now, there obviously will be changes if the list MMO-Champion datamined isn't complete.

Legend: Alliance / Horde
Head: [Nobundo's Helm of Triumph] / [Thrall's Helm of Triumph] Source: Universal Token off any ToC25 Hardmode Boss
Neck: [Wail of the Val'kyr] / [Cry of the Val'kyr] Source: Twin Val'kyr 25
Shoulders: [Nobundo's Shoulderpads of Triumph] / [Thrall's Shoulderpads of Triumph] Source: Universal Token off any ToC25 Hardmode Boss
Cloak: [Cloak of Displacement] / [Shroud of Displacement] Source: Faction Champions 25 Hardmode
Chest: [Nobundo's Hauberk of Triumph] / [Thrall's Hauberk of Triumph] Source: Universal Token off any ToC25 Hardmode Boss
Wrist: [Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers] Tailoring Recipe: Requires 8x[Spellweave], [Eye of Zul], [Cardinal Ruby], [Majestic Zircon], 4x[Crusader Orb]
Gloves: [Nobundo's Gloves of Triumph] / [Thrall's Gloves of Triumph] Source: Universal Token off any ToC25 Hardmode Boss
Belt: [Cord of Biting Cold] Source: Faction Champions 25 Hardmode
Legs: [Legwraps of the Awakening] / [Leggings of the Awakening] Source: Anub'Arak 25
Boots: [Boots of Tremoring Earth] Source: Faction Champions 25 Hardmode
Ring1: [Nebula Band] Source: Algalon 25
Ring2: [Conductive Seal] Source: Mimiron 25 Hardmode
Trinket1: [Reign of the Dead] (There is a Heroic mode direct upgrade with the same name, but I couldn't find it on wowhead) Source: Anub'Arak 25 Hardmode
Trinket2: Either the downgrade Reign if possible or [Flare of the Heavens] Source: General Vezax 25 Hardmode
Mainhand: Blade of Tarasque Source: Northrend Beasts 25 Hardmode
Offhand: [Bastion of Purity] Source: Faction Champions 25 Hardmode
Totem: [Totem of Electrifying Wind] Source: 25 Badges of Triumph

Good list. It's about the same as mine, but I have a few changes. I have some 272 gear on my list. Sadly, once again though, we are stuck in non mail BiS gear.

The main problem at this point, is there is still so much undiscovered. I've had so much going on, and keeping up with newly discovered loot was not on my list. Also, not even having access to the gear at this point in time (at least most of the gear), it makes it even more difficult to get the list together. I will get a new list up within a week.

Yeah, I can't find stats on them, but I wouldn't be surprised if the BiS cloak and weapon are in there. My bet is on another healing mace.

I would actually replace Blade of Tarasque (Barb of Tarasque for me) with Sufferings End. because instead of the hit, it has crit instead, however this drops of Anub'arak in 25 man so it will take another 4-5 weeks until it is possible to get it.
Because of the massive amount of hit we will get on just our tier gear, We will get hit capped really fast, which is why i would take the mace over the dagger.

OK so i guess i missed the big discussion or what ever about the totems, which one was decided better of the three, Thunderfall Totem, Totem of Hex or Totem of Elecctrifying Wind?

Thunderfall is crap still. It is between Elec and Hex. I have no seen any numbers directly from the PTR. As of now, no one has the Electrifying yet, as it will be only possible to even get the 2nd week. I'm sure its not a big enough deal at the moment to even get the item over some of the gear. I would expect numbered comparisons on it in another few weeks. From what I have seen and read, they seem almost the same DPS wise. It really depends on what the ICD of the new totem is on live servers.

The elemental chest is [Thrall's Hauberk of Triumph] (you've selected the resto one, which means you won't have the set bonus).

In any case, I think it's slightly premature to try to create a new BiS listing, especially given the multiple gear levels that will be available. It is likewise important to consider cloth/leather items separately, partially because of the numbers going for those items (ie: all your caster dps, and some healers) and partially because if we can demonstrate a mail listing with a number of items from earlier content, it will be more evidence that there is a gearing issue at the moment. I am planning on doing another blog entry on this sort of thing, but I'm waiting for Lootrank/Wowhead to finish getting their item lists sorted.

Honest mistake, I meant the Elemental one. As far as the multiple gear levels and all that. That is the BiS list I could make with what we have now which seems like more or less every item, but of course nothing in certain. But people should be aware that there are multiple items with the same name that are from hardmodes and direct upgrades from the normal mode.

I have been waiting for WoWHead to finish getting sorted as well, partially because I hate going to multiple sources to get item stats. Ideally, as over in the mage thread, where they have BiS lists for multiple sets, I am trying to get lists together for each type of raid (ie. 10m, 25m, 25m Hard, etc) I was trying to get multiple sets together for Ulduar, but having 5 sets per faction wasn't fun to balance all the numbers for 3-5 possibilities for each. Now we have 4 raids, 2 factions, and as Bink stated, with the short instance style, going after certain cloth items is going to become a challenge. I still would like to get together a preliminary set doing crafted/25m (non-hard) for each faction together.

Since items can be returned for a full refund within 2 hours, I plan on getting the totem, running a few tests mainly to determine whether it has internal cooldown or not and then returning the totem if it does have an internal cooldown (since 20 sec ICD would make it have nearly same dps as hex, whereas no cooldown would make it vastly superior).

I am interested to see what Totem of Electrifying Wind will do based on a Proc chance: 70% and no ICD. I assume this would give it an uptime of 100% or as close to as makes no difference.
Has anyone done any theory crafting on what this would mean to dps if the above stats are correct?

I am also curious where Totem of Hex would still outperform haste (ToEW).
For a static boss - haste or SP?
For a high movement boss - haste or SP?