Great to hear that. About the cooldown, it would probably be a good addition for Shock and Awe, to add a "Lava Lash when no Totem Buff is up"-Priority item.
For example, you usually have MW_5 -> ES_SS -> SS -> ES -> LL. Now we could enhance that to MW_5 -> ES_SS -> SS -> LL_noBuffUp -> ES -> LL. Of course we would also need the same thing in the Sim, to test whether it is an dps increase at all.

Would it be best to open with LL to get the 400ap buff or would we still use SS first for its debuff on target and then LL for the 400ap?

I am thinking that LL>SS>ES would be the best opening attack, since the 400ap would benefit the SS more than the SS debuff would benefit LL.

All the 3.2 relics have some internal cooldown on procs, the Ret one has a 6 second, the DK Tank/Pally tank ones have a 9 second. You just do your normal attacks and still get a high uptime on the proc. However, it may be useful at the start to use a LL before other attacks, then normal attacks.

Sadly, 3.2.2 seems far away before you can see the benefit.

Not saying it will happen, but given that some changes in 3.2.2 are aimed more at sorting out Paly PVP issues, part of me wonders if we won't see the patch for the start of the next Arena season and the Ony stuff will just be flagged off or the raid will be enabled, but the event specific items won't be triggered until November.

It strikes me as odd that they'd leave the Prot healer running for so long into the next season after identifying it as something they'd like gone and apparently having the code to eliminate it sitting around.

With the changes coming in patch 3.2.2, will Quaking Earth with out certain be the Enh totem of choice?

I would say its a pretty safe bet that it will be. I myself bought Totem of Quaking Earth as soon as a I found out they were going to be fixing in next patch (I had been using the Deadly Glad totem).

The only reason I can think of that it wouldn't be would be if Haste starts to scale a ways above 2 EP for some reason, which would make it the 200 haste better than 400 AP. The EP for haste would have to be higher than 2 since the Elem totem doesn't have as high an uptime as Quaking Earth.

Suffice to say, Quaking Earth will be BiS unless haste gets really good for some reason.

Did a rough basic calculation:

Single FS = 500 + 834 = 1334 damage
Single ES = 872 damage

ES coefficient - 38.58%
FS DD coefficient - 21.42%
FS DoT coefficient - 60% (10% per 3-seconds tick)
ES benefits from SS debuff, FS doesn't.
ES can cause full critical hits. FS can only with the DD.
Meta 3% crit damage effect increases damage of crits.
Concussion adds 5% bonus to everything.
Elemental Fury makes crits give 100% additinal damage instead of 50%.

Assuming 1300 SP and 25% spell crit chance:
ES base damage = (872+1300*0.38)*1.05 = 1434
FS base damage = (500+1300*0.21 + 834+1300*0.6)*1.05 = 811 + 1694 ---> 2505

With SS (glyphed ofcourse) and crits:
ES = 1434*1.28(1+0.25*1.03) = 2308
FS = 811(1+0.25*1.03) + 1694 = 2713

This is a really quick math I did and I'm not sure at all I did it right or didn't forget any important factors, but based on this it looks like FS-ES-ES rotation will be the way to go as a single FS with full duration of DoT will outweigh a single ES.

Assuming the same stats as above, the new FS glyph will add 1694*0.25*1.03 = 436 damage to FS DoT, dividing it by 18 = 24 DPS bonus.
Might be a viable option, but seems like WF/SS/Wolves glyphs will still be superior.

I personally hope all this will turn out to be true as I would defiantly like to finally have some sort of DoT (except magma totem...), and it will add some spice to our rotation.

I don't see a downside in going back to using a FS-ES-ES rotation. Factoring in the t9 4pc (which should apply to the dot tick) combined with the glyph looks pretty damn good.

Which major glyph do you plan on replacing for Flame Shock.

Needs proper simming, etc - but I'd say Windfury.

Remember that the FS dot crits will be at +109% rather than +100 due to the crit bonus meta. A rough estimate of the Glyph (by downsizing the elemental values by the extra co-efficient bonuses we get) suggests ~77 dps. If necessary, I can put together some stuff over the weekend to look at this stuff (unless you guys get to it first via the Sim).

Your assumptions for spell crit and spell power are much too low. Raid buffed I have around 2480 spell power without berserking procs or trinkets up. With raid buffs and debuffs I have 40% spell crit.

Enh Shock calculations using updated co-efficients.

Using FS gives an extra 26 dps, and the Glyph gives an extra 79 on top of that.

Windfury Glyph is showing as 77 dps so we will probably be using a new glyph, especially since I've had way more then 2480 spellpower during a raid (On the Freya3 attempt just now I saw mine top 3800 for a moment with procs and everything).

With my current T8/some T9 gear, the sim puts out an average value of 2900 spellpower in a 5 minute fight.

My mistake I have 2934 spellpower with raid buffs. Thats what I get for going by memory :/.

Is there a SP/Haste point where it would make sense to include LvB into the rotation?

True. The stats I used are close to my character sheet, not considering any buffs.

Using the stats you provided (e.g. raid-buffed), 2500 SP and 40% crit:

ES base damage = (872+2500*0.38)*1.05 = 1913
FS base damage = (500+2500*0.21 + 834+2500*0.6)*1.05 = 1076 + 2450 ---> 3526

With SS (glyphed ofcourse) and crits:
ES = 1913*1.28(1+0.4*1.03) = 3457
FS = 1076(1+0.4*1.03) + 2450 = 3969

New FS glyph: 2450*0.4*1.03/18 = 56 DPS


Note: Also added the crit meta effect to both this and the original post.

Is it worth to cast LvB when all abilitys have cd/elemental devastation isn't up, or would we loose to many autoattacks?, perhaps if we keep an eye on the autohit timer? (it should always krit now, because of the new flameshock in our rotation and proc elemental devastation with a 100% chance)

I was actually very curious about this, when I get all of my procs I sit well over 1400 haste. I would think its very viable.

Currently lightning bolt with a 3 stack maelstrom just makes it into the very bottom of the rotation which is roughly a 0.8s cast. I don't think you can reliably hasten Lava Burst fast enough to make it worth casting, granted it has higher base damage than lightning bolt but it won't gain from the Stormstrike debuff as well as having a lower spell power co-efficient. The autocrit and elemental devastation shouldn't outweigh the lost damage from pausing autoattack but maybe there is a haste point or window where Windfury is on cooldown and calculations will prove otherwise.

I took the Enhsim config out of the enhancement_bis_gear_set_up_discussion thread, removed the wf-glyph and the tier9 set bonus(because the bonus doesn't affect the periodic spelldmg of flameshock in the Enhsim (see Release Notes v1.8.2)).
This results in 9041 dps. Adding the flameshock glyph now as a third glyph(patch3.2.2 changes to flameshock) and changing the priority in the rotation to SR;SW;MW5_LB;FS;ES_SS;SS;ES;MT;LS;LL;MW3_LB;MW4_LB results in 9064 dps.
So it's a buff of (9064-9041)*1,25= 23*1,25= 28,75 dps (unglyphed status after patch 3.2.2 and with current bis gear) using a fs,es,es,es rotation (fs,es,es seems to be a dps loss with reverbation, because the last tick would be wastet(according to the sim)). Tell me if I forgot something and/or if you find a way to simulate the new flameshock krit glyph please.
- to anwer my own question from above, LvB casts instead of MW3_LB casts lower the dps about 80.