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07/29/09, 8:42 PM
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#76
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Frostmourne
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Originally Posted by Rouncer
Sorry, I should have made the post more clear.
Dukkon - I look forward to next weeks results, well unless 3.2 hits and then all bets are off until raiding and gear stabilizes once again.
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I do not understand how we can place so much value in 5000 hour simulations and then think that this sort of experiement would hold any value at all. I would direct you to this post and Malan's reply.
Forgetting the fact that our DPS is never the same from minute to minute, the amount of RNG associated with movement in encounters means that this discussion can only be had on a theortical level. It is highly likely that this week, this man gets zero gravity bombs, never gets grabbed by Kolargon, has his fear instantly broken on Auriaya, never has to move an inch to grab his evoker and all the tress spawn right next to him. It is also highly likely that the followiing week, the exact opposite is true and this man spends half of Ulduar running around like it were a BG.
When I began looking at run speed, my intention was to challenge the assumption that it was the BiS enchant as it provides, on average, superior DPS over Icewalker. It was not my intention to say that Icewalker is better than run speed. The decision between Cat's Speed and Icewalker depends on your DPS, the duration of an encounter and the total run time during an encounter. Given the conditions that Ulduar provides us, the value of these enchants is currently roughly equal. You take all of these factors into consideration and then say 'okay, I know that when the RNG is bad for me, I will be doing less DPS, but when the RNG is kind to me, I will be doing more, so I'll take X enchant'.
I will say that this will likely change with time. As our average DPS increases the run time required to derive benefit from run speed decreases. As we approach 9k DPS in the next conent patch, and if the amount of run time per encounter remains roughly the same as in Ulduar, I am certain run-speed will be superior.
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07/30/09, 6:06 AM
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#77
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Bald Bull
Raut
Tauren Shaman
No WoW Account (EU)
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The test is silly. Any fight, even a static fight like Ignis will have too many factors to make it reliable. The sim is run in a vacuum so stats will always come out on top of runspeed. I'd rather suggest that if you are so worried about the handful of fights where runspeed is wasted, get two boots. It's not like we'd be the only class tailoring gear for certain encounters. The nature of movement fights means it's hard to predict the cutoff between runspeed and a stat enchant. The various discussions around the subject and attempts to synthesize math to prove it suggest that runspeed is the overall best enchant in Ulduar.
As to the BiS list, did you ever run [Solar Bindings] with [Belt of Dragons], Vespasian?
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Fuel for hatred
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08/01/09, 11:07 PM
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#78
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Frostmourne
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Originally Posted by Raut
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Yes, it ran 2 DPS lower than the current BiS.
On an unrelated note, 3.2 is coming very soon. It is my intention to continue updating this page as new gear is discovered. I will wait for around 1-2 weeks for Wowhead etc to be properly updated before I begin updating the opening post. People are of course encouraged to provide new set ups whenever they chose.
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08/05/09, 10:14 PM
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#79
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Frostmourne
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Just for fun, I have begun putting together a new BiS setup. The results are extremely inaccurate as many item tooltips are incomplete and no hard mode loot as been discovered.With 216 DPS, 2.7 speed weps (which we can reasonably assume will be hard mode loot) and with full tier 9.9, we are clocking in at around 8300 DPS. You can see the config and report below:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI
simulation_time 5000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 10
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 50
max_lag 60
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 200
ep_crit_rating 30
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating 30
ep_spellpower 150
ep_dps 7.5
ep_mana 250
ep_spirit 150
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 1
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 2100
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 11
rotation_priority1 SR
rotation_priority2 SW
rotation_priority3 MW5_LB
rotation_priority4 ES_SS
rotation_priority5 SS
rotation_priority6 ES
rotation_priority7 MT
rotation_priority8 LS
rotation_priority9 LL
rotation_priority10 MW3_CL
rotation_priority11 MW4_LB
miss 8.0
dodge 6.5
glancing 24.0
armor 10645
spell_miss 17.0
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor 5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff 4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 685/685
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 51/51
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_speed
food fish_feast
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
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race tauren
mh_speed 2.7
oh_speed 2.7
mh_dps 216
oh_dps 216
mh_crit 37.14
oh_crit 37.14
mh_hit 14.58
oh_hit 14.58
mh_expertise_rating 143
oh_expertise_rating 143
ap 5017
melee_haste 11.02
armor_penetration 21.03
str 135
agi 1157
int 663
spi 155
spellpower 1505
spell_crit 26.52
spell_hit 18.22
spell_haste 8.48
max_mana 14061
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant 3789
oh_enchant 3789
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 45609
trinket2 45522
totem totem_of_electrifying_wind
set_bonus1 t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2 -
set_bonus3 -
metagem 41285
gloves_enchant -
cloak_enchant -
glyph_major1 feral_spirit
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 windfury_weapon
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 3/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 3/3
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 3/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 0/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5

EnhSim version 1.8.2
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MH:
miss 805216 6.43%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 3005233 24.00%
hit 2193698 17.52%
crit 6517154 52.05%
clip 371324 2.88%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 15.43%
procs/swings 14.57%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 1904849 44.94%
crit 2333453 55.06%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 907649 44.96%
crit 1111035 55.04%
OH:
miss 805365 6.43%
dodge 0 0.00%
glancing 3004497 24.00%
hit 2191868 17.51%
crit 6519566 52.07%
clip 371329 2.88%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 9579774 59.34%
crit 6563641 40.66%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 908343 45.00%
crit 1110341 55.00%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1576573 59.33%
crit 1080673 40.67%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 0 0.00%
hit 1083481 44.98%
crit 1325319 55.02%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1200101 59.31%
crit 823313 40.69%
Chain Lightning:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 780509 59.31%
crit 535373 40.69%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 3472119 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Spirit Wolves:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 581114 6.50%
glancing 2144382 24.00%
hit 5182564 58.01%
crit 1026354 11.49%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 51.18
flurry uptime 96.72%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 81.08%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 42.85%
oh enchant uptime 38.31%
trinket1 uptime 20.60%
trinket2 uptime 18.38%
totem uptime 68.94%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime 0.00%
cloak enchant uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 36.00 12.36%
replenishment 41.87 14.38%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.05 3.11%
shamanistic rage 106.18 36.45%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc 0.00 0.00%
stormstrike 98.18 33.71%
DPS PPM MPS
white 2614.82 31.5% 83.48
windfury 1027.41 12.38% 7.06
flametongue 609.20 7.34% 53.81
stormstrike 471.08 5.68% 6.73 37.07 12.12%
lava lash 377.58 4.55% 8.03 22.12 7.23%
magma totem 580.18 6.99% 2.85 53.07 17.36%
earth shock 807.20 9.72% 8.86 57.24 18.72%
lightning bolt 701.35 8.45% 6.74 49.42 16.16%
chain lightning 433.33 5.22% 4.39 83.56 27.33%
lightning shield 370.42 4.46% 1.29 0.00 0.00%
spirit wolves 308.37 3.71% 0.40 3.31 1.08%
DPS 8300.93
MPS 305.78
MP2min 36693.28
MRPS 302.92
Out of mana time 0.00%
elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 32.34s
simulation speed: 556534x
This report does not include the Spirit Wolves buff to expertise, so this number will go up.
I also did some testing around Electrifying Wind vs Quaking Earth and Electrifying Wind comes back a very clear winner. With Tier 8 set bonus is sims ~100 DPS higher than quaking and with Tier 9 bonus it sims ~ 50 DPS higher.
As I mentioned earlier, this was just for kicks. When item databases are properly updated and functioning, I will begin updating the opening post.
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08/06/09, 10:25 PM
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#80
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Frostmourne
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Another day, another set of updates to item databases. Managed to push out 8693 DPS today, again, without the changes to Spirit Wolves' expertise:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI
simulation_time 1000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 10
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 50
max_lag 60
simulate_mana 1
ep_precision 2
ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 200
ep_crit_rating 30
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise 4
ep_haste_rating 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating 30
ep_spellpower 150
ep_dps 7.5
ep_mana 250
ep_spirit 150
ep_mp5 20
mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 1
bloodlust_casters 1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 1
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15.0
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left 2100
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left 3000
rotation_priority_count 11
rotation_priority1 SR
rotation_priority2 SW
rotation_priority3 MW5_LB
rotation_priority4 ES_SS
rotation_priority5 SS
rotation_priority6 ES
rotation_priority7 MT
rotation_priority8 LS
rotation_priority9 LL
rotation_priority10 MW3_CL
rotation_priority11 MW4_LB
miss 8.0
dodge 6.5
glancing 24.0
armor 10645
spell_miss 17.0
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0
arcane_resistance 0
shadow_resistance 0
armor_debuff_major 20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor 5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff 4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 685/685
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 51/51
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60
replenishment 1
water_shield 0
mana_spring_totem 1
blessing_of_wisdom 1
judgement_of_wisdom 1
flask_elixir flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir -
potion potion_of_speed
food fish_feast
###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon ###
###############################################################################
race tauren
mh_speed 2.6
oh_speed 2.6
mh_dps 216.5
oh_dps 216.5
mh_crit 41.59
oh_crit 41.59
mh_hit 11.28
oh_hit 11.28
mh_expertise_rating 139
oh_expertise_rating 139
ap 5461
melee_haste 10.90
armor_penetration 22.73
str 145
agi 1261
int 683
spi 165
spellpower 1638
spell_crit 29.84
spell_hit 14.10
spell_haste 8.39
max_mana 14361
mp5 0
mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue
mh_enchant 3789
oh_enchant 3789
mh_weapon -
oh_weapon -
trinket1 comets_trail
trinket2 deaths_verdict
totem totem_of_electrifying_wind
set_bonus1 t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2 -
set_bonus3 -
metagem 41285
gloves_enchant -
cloak_enchant -
glyph_major1 feral_spirit
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 windfury_weapon
glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -
ancestral_knowledge 2/5
improved_shields 3/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 3/3
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 3/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 0/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
unrelenting_storm 0/3
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/3
shamanism 0/5

EnhSim version 1.8.2
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MH:
miss 251902 9.69%
dodge 280 0.01%
glancing 623257 23.99%
hit 195372 7.52%
crit 1527674 58.79%
clip 79713 2.98%
MH Windfury:
procs/hits 15.20%
procs/swings 13.93%
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 80 0.01%
hit 319305 38.19%
crit 516807 61.80%
MH Storsmtrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 47 0.01%
hit 154371 38.23%
crit 249376 61.76%
OH:
miss 253503 9.76%
dodge 266 0.01%
glancing 623384 23.99%
hit 192557 7.41%
crit 1528773 58.83%
clip 79715 2.98%
OH Flametongue:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 1811233 56.02%
crit 1421674 43.98%
OH Stormstrike:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 41 0.01%
hit 154096 38.17%
crit 249610 61.82%
Earth Shock:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 298499 55.99%
crit 234664 44.01%
Lava Lash:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 47 0.01%
hit 185332 38.25%
crit 299155 61.74%
Lightning Bolt:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 215828 56.05%
crit 169251 43.95%
Chain Lightning:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 148169 56.12%
crit 115845 43.88%
Lightning Shield:
miss 0 0.00%
hit 693217 100.00%
crit 0 0.00%
Spirit Wolves:
miss 0 0.00%
dodge 115862 6.48%
glancing 429754 24.03%
hit 1037424 58.01%
crit 205272 11.48%
Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM 49.30
flurry uptime 98.18%
unleashed rage uptime 0.00%
elemental devastation uptime 83.64%
elemental oath uptime 0.00%
mh enchant uptime 41.50%
oh enchant uptime 37.16%
trinket1 uptime 20.59%
trinket2 uptime 32.45%
totem uptime 66.84%
set bonus uptime 0.00%
metagem uptime 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime 0.00%
cloak enchant uptime 0.00%
MRPS without overregen
mana regen 0.00 0.00%
mp5 36.01 12.43%
replenishment 42.71 14.74%
unrelenting storm 0.00 0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.16 3.16%
shamanistic rage 103.72 35.79%
mana potion 0.00 0.00%
misc 0.00 0.00%
stormstrike 98.19 33.88%
DPS PPM MPS
white 2804.68 32.26% 86.62
windfury 1062.32 12.22% 6.97
flametongue 617.89 7.11% 53.88
stormstrike 495.34 5.7% 6.73 37.08 12.20%
lava lash 396.82 4.56% 8.08 22.25 7.32%
magma totem 606.22 6.97% 2.86 53.15 17.48%
earth shock 850.24 9.78% 8.89 57.42 18.89%
lightning bolt 704.78 8.11% 6.42 47.02 15.47%
chain lightning 456.87 5.26% 4.40 83.82 27.57%
lightning shield 380.33 4.38% 1.28 0.00 0.00%
spirit wolves 317.65 3.65% 0.40 3.31 1.09%
DPS 8693.15
MPS 304.05
MP2min 36486.14
MRPS 301.14
Out of mana time 0.00%
elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 6.48s
simulation speed: 555212x
A few notes:
BiS weapons are 2.6 speed, not 2.7- lame.
Crit: Fully buffed, we are reaching around 60% melee crit and 43% spell crit during combat. Stat wise that is 40% and 30% respectively.
Reaching hit cap is very easy: with no particular focus on maintaining hit cap, no hit trinket and no hit gems, we reach approximately 360 hit.
We are extremely expertise starved: Only one of our Tier items (hands) has expertise and very little mail gear has expertise on it at all. Under the setup I am currently running, I am having to use 4 Precise Cardinal Rubies, and even then I am 1 expertise below cap. I would not be at all surprised if we were forced to wear 1-2 expertise leather pieces to make up this deficit. The expertise trinket, Victor's Call (83 expertise and a stacking ap buff on use) is a pretty terrible way of making up our expertise deficit since the DPS lost from dropping other trinkets is greater than the benefit that 4x AP gems would provide.
Off-set items are heavy with Armor penetration: under the setup I am currently running, I am sitting at 280 ArP (22%). This is with 0 ArP on any tier gear, and I am currently wearing 4/5.
Comet's Trail remains an extremely powerful trinket: it sims ~80 DPS higher than the new darkmoon style trinket, Death's Verdict (288 AP and 450 agi for 15 secs on proc).
Last edited by Vespasian : 08/06/09 at 10:37 PM.
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08/07/09, 10:54 AM
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#81
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Glass Joe
Goblin Death Knight
Nathrezim
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BiS Offhand Question
I am wondering about our BiS OH, I have access to the Tier 2 PvP Weapon, 188.1 Dps, 2.6 Speed, I am wondering if this sims higher than Caress. I cannot test if the wasted Resilience is worth the Dps increase, as my home computer if out of commission at the moment.
If someone could sim that for me I would be very grateful.
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08/07/09, 11:43 AM
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#82
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In Awe of Shocks
Draenei Shaman
Khadgar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Vespasian
I also did some testing around Electrifying Wind vs Quaking Earth and Electrifying Wind comes back a very clear winner. With Tier 8 set bonus is sims ~100 DPS higher than quaking and with Tier 9 bonus it sims ~ 50 DPS higher.
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I've just added support for Electrifying Wind to Rawr.Enhance and agree that its massively better than Quaking Earth.
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Author of ShockAndAwe Enhancement Shaman max dps addon
Please use the EnhSim by Ziff & others to simulate what gear, priorities etc are the best dps. You can use ShockAndAwe to export your paperdoll stats to EnhSim.
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08/07/09, 4:31 PM
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#83
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Spirestone
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I would take totem sims with a grain of salt. Until we can get folks trying them out in the field I have very low confidence in the actual numbers. I missed 25 man colliseum this week but I'm otherwise on track to replace my Totem of Hex. If folks are leaning one way or the other I don't have a problem picking up the alternate so we can get full testing done ASAP.
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08/08/09, 3:01 AM
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#84
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Glass Joe
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Hm, interesting read for sure. I have not quite gotten into the swing of min/maxxing quite as hard as you guys have, but I like my current gear set up, although I find my sims favoring haste at the moment.
And yeah, all of this armor pen on offset gear is quite annoying, but I do like the EW Glyph, and it will be the first thing I buy in short order.
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08/09/09, 12:55 PM
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#85
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Ehanoro
I am wondering about our BiS OH, I have access to the Tier 2 PvP Weapon, 188.1 Dps, 2.6 Speed, I am wondering if this sims higher than Caress. I cannot test if the wasted Resilience is worth the Dps increase, as my home computer if out of commission at the moment.
If someone could sim that for me I would be very grateful.
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Just from a pure dps/speed numbers standpoint, not taking into account stats, Caress sims out better than a 195 dps 2.6 speed weapon. Considering the stat allocation on pvp weapons is pretty bad due to the resilience, caress is still the clear winner over any T8/S6 content.
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08/10/09, 10:38 PM
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#86
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Glass Joe
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Pretty slowpoke here but does the theory that t8 4pc > t9 hold any ground? I've never been so unenthusiastic about a content patch so I haven't really been keeping up to scratch on much of anything let alone taking out the time to run sims :\
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08/11/09, 5:00 AM
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#87
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Spirestone
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Originally Posted by Trollpriest
Pretty slowpoke here but does the theory that t8 4pc > t9 hold any ground? I've never been so unenthusiastic about a content patch so I haven't really been keeping up to scratch on much of anything let alone taking out the time to run sims :\
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If rawr is any indicator, individual items at 258 could be worth breaking the 4 piece bonus (or nearly so). When you think about switchin 4x 226 for 4x 258 you can probably even make that decision while ignoring what the set bonuses are for T9.
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08/11/09, 1:08 PM
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#88
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Von Kaiser
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One small thing to note, which may be obvious to some already is that as BiS is now going to be measured with epic quality gems, you can now use both an Enchanted Tear along with a Nightmare Tear in your gear set. If I'm not mistaken, this would mean that having one of each tears to cover your blue requirement for the meta socket would be the best choice.
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08/11/09, 5:06 PM
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#89
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Glass Joe
Tauren Shaman
Skullcrusher
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Originally Posted by Dahkeus
One small thing to note, which may be obvious to some already is that as BiS is now going to be measured with epic quality gems, you can now use both an Enchanted Tear along with a Nightmare Tear in your gear set. If I'm not mistaken, this would mean that having one of each tears to cover your blue requirement for the meta socket would be the best choice.
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I would still think its a good idea to keep a few ap+stam gems on ya just to add more survivability since most of the new encounters deal aoe damage and melee usually gets the majority of it. But depending on what tear u use, those are def a good choice if ur into maxing ur ap out gem wise.
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08/11/09, 6:23 PM
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#90
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Don Flamenco
Draenei Shaman
Tichondrius
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Has anyone obtained Totem of Electrifying Wind on Live yet? I will be picking it up later today, but if I can get confirmation as to its live functionality beforehand, well that would be just dandy.
EDIT: That is enough to confirm that it is indeed BiS for Enhancement and Elemental, thanks.
Last edited by mek : 08/11/09 at 7:03 PM.
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