[Enhancement] BiS gear and set-up discussion - Page 6

Vespasian · 07/29/09, 8:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rouncer

Sorry, I should have made the post more clear.

Dukkon - I look forward to next weeks results, well unless 3.2 hits and then all bets are off until raiding and gear stabilizes once again.

I do not understand how we can place so much value in 5000 hour simulations and then think that this sort of experiement would hold any value at all. I would direct you to this post and Malan's reply.

Forgetting the fact that our DPS is never the same from minute to minute, the amount of RNG associated with movement in encounters means that this discussion can only be had on a theortical level. It is highly likely that this week, this man gets zero gravity bombs, never gets grabbed by Kolargon, has his fear instantly broken on Auriaya, never has to move an inch to grab his evoker and all the tress spawn right next to him. It is also highly likely that the followiing week, the exact opposite is true and this man spends half of Ulduar running around like it were a BG.

When I began looking at run speed, my intention was to challenge the assumption that it was the BiS enchant as it provides, on average, superior DPS over Icewalker. It was not my intention to say that Icewalker is better than run speed. The decision between Cat's Speed and Icewalker depends on your DPS, the duration of an encounter and the total run time during an encounter. Given the conditions that Ulduar provides us, the value of these enchants is currently roughly equal. You take all of these factors into consideration and then say 'okay, I know that when the RNG is bad for me, I will be doing less DPS, but when the RNG is kind to me, I will be doing more, so I'll take X enchant'.

I will say that this will likely change with time. As our average DPS increases the run time required to derive benefit from run speed decreases. As we approach 9k DPS in the next conent patch, and if the amount of run time per encounter remains roughly the same as in Ulduar, I am certain run-speed will be superior.

Raut · 07/30/09, 6:06 AM

The test is silly. Any fight, even a static fight like Ignis will have too many factors to make it reliable. The sim is run in a vacuum so stats will always come out on top of runspeed. I'd rather suggest that if you are so worried about the handful of fights where runspeed is wasted, get two boots. It's not like we'd be the only class tailoring gear for certain encounters. The nature of movement fights means it's hard to predict the cutoff between runspeed and a stat enchant. The various discussions around the subject and attempts to synthesize math to prove it suggest that runspeed is the overall best enchant in Ulduar.

As to the BiS list, did you ever run [Solar Bindings] with [Belt of Dragons], Vespasian?

Vespasian · 08/01/09, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Raut

As to the BiS list, did you ever run [Solar Bindings] with [Belt of Dragons], Vespasian?

Yes, it ran 2 DPS lower than the current BiS.

On an unrelated note, 3.2 is coming very soon. It is my intention to continue updating this page as new gear is discovered. I will wait for around 1-2 weeks for Wowhead etc to be properly updated before I begin updating the opening post. People are of course encouraged to provide new set ups whenever they chose.

Vespasian · 08/05/09, 10:14 PM

Just for fun, I have begun putting together a new BiS setup. The results are extremely inaccurate as many item tooltips are incomplete and no hard mode loot as been discovered.With 216 DPS, 2.7 speed weps (which we can reasonably assume will be hard mode loot) and with full tier 9.9, we are clocking in at around 8300 DPS. You can see the config and report below:

### Saved by version 1.7.0 of EnhSimGUI

simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
combat_length                   10
report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd              0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets    1
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cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       2100
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         11
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rotation_priority2              SW
rotation_priority3              MW5_LB
rotation_priority4              ES_SS
rotation_priority5              SS
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rotation_priority9              LL
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miss                            8.0
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glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
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fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

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armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          685/685
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
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spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
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spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 165/165
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stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
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agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
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mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.7
oh_speed                        2.7
mh_dps                          216
oh_dps                          216
mh_crit                         37.14
oh_crit                         37.14
mh_hit                          14.58
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mh_expertise_rating             143
oh_expertise_rating             143
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armor_penetration               21.03
str                             135
agi                             1157
int                             663
spi                             155
spellpower                      1505
spell_crit                      26.52
spell_hit                       18.22
spell_haste                     8.48
max_mana                        14061
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        45609
trinket2                        45522

totem                           totem_of_electrifying_wind

set_bonus1                      t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

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glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
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unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
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unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

EnhSim version 1.8.2

................................................................................

MH:
miss                805216         6.43%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3005233        24.00%
hit                 2193698        17.52%
crit                6517154        52.05%
clip                371324         2.88%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.43%
procs/swings        14.57%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1904849        44.94%
crit                2333453        55.06%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 907649         44.96%
crit                1111035        55.04%

OH:
miss                805365         6.43%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            3004497        24.00%
hit                 2191868        17.51%
crit                6519566        52.07%
clip                371329         2.88%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9579774        59.34%
crit                6563641        40.66%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 908343         45.00%
crit                1110341        55.00%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1576573        59.33%
crit                1080673        40.67%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
hit                 1083481        44.98%
crit                1325319        55.02%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1200101        59.31%
crit                823313         40.69%

Chain Lightning:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 780509         59.31%
crit                535373         40.69%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 3472119        100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               581114         6.50%
glancing            2144382        24.00%
hit                 5182564        58.01%
crit                1026354        11.49%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 51.18

flurry uptime                  96.72%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   81.08%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              42.85%
oh enchant uptime              38.31%
trinket1 uptime                20.60%
trinket2 uptime                18.38%
totem uptime                   68.94%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 36.00     12.36%
replenishment       41.87     14.38%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.05      3.11%
shamanistic rage    106.18    36.45%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         98.18     33.71%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2614.82   31.5%     83.48
windfury            1027.41   12.38%    7.06
flametongue         609.20    7.34%     53.81
stormstrike         471.08    5.68%     6.73      37.07     12.12%
lava lash           377.58    4.55%     8.03      22.12     7.23%
magma totem         580.18    6.99%     2.85      53.07     17.36%
earth shock         807.20    9.72%     8.86      57.24     18.72%
lightning bolt      701.35    8.45%     6.74      49.42     16.16%
chain lightning     433.33    5.22%     4.39      83.56     27.33%
lightning shield    370.42    4.46%     1.29      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       308.37    3.71%     0.40      3.31      1.08%

DPS                 8300.93
MPS                 305.78
MP2min              36693.28
MRPS                302.92
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 32.34s
simulation speed: 556534x

This report does not include the Spirit Wolves buff to expertise, so this number will go up.

I also did some testing around Electrifying Wind vs Quaking Earth and Electrifying Wind comes back a very clear winner. With Tier 8 set bonus is sims ~100 DPS higher than quaking and with Tier 9 bonus it sims ~ 50 DPS higher.

As I mentioned earlier, this was just for kicks. When item databases are properly updated and functioning, I will begin updating the opening post.

Vespasian · 08/06/09, 10:25 PM

Another day, another set of updates to item databases. Managed to push out 8693 DPS today, again, without the changes to Spirit Wolves' expertise:

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simulation_time                 1000
simulation_time_combatlog       30
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report_count                    80
threads                         2
min_lag                         50
max_lag                         60
simulate_mana                   1

ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
ep_ap                           200
ep_crit_rating                  30
ep_hit_rating                   30
ep_expertise                    4
ep_haste_rating                 30
ep_armor_penetration_rating     30
ep_spellpower                   150
ep_dps                          7.5
ep_mana                         250
ep_spirit                       150
ep_mp5                          20

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
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cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd        1
bloodlust_casters               1
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cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left    4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left    0
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       2100
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    3000

rotation_priority_count         11
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rotation_priority5              SS
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rotation_priority10             MW3_CL
rotation_priority11             MW4_LB

miss                            8.0
dodge                           6.5
glancing                        24.0
armor                           10645
spell_miss                      17.0
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

armor_debuff_major              20.0/20.0
armor_debuff_minor              5.0/5.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat          685/685
attack_power_buff_multiplier    99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff          5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff                 165/165
spell_hit_chance_debuff         3.0/3.0
haste_buff                      3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff              3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff                   51/51
agi_and_strength_buff           178/178
intellect_buff                  60/60

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mana_spring_totem               1
blessing_of_wisdom              1
judgement_of_wisdom             1

flask_elixir                    flask_of_endless_rage
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          potion_of_speed
food                            fish_feast

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            tauren
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          216.5
oh_dps                          216.5
mh_crit                         41.59
oh_crit                         41.59
mh_hit                          11.28
oh_hit                          11.28
mh_expertise_rating             139
oh_expertise_rating             139
ap                              5461
melee_haste                     10.90
armor_penetration               22.73
str                             145
agi                             1261
int                             683
spi                             165
spellpower                      1638
spell_crit                      29.84
spell_hit                       14.10
spell_haste                     8.39
max_mana                        14361
mp5                             0

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      3789
oh_enchant                      3789

mh_weapon                       -
oh_weapon                       -

trinket1                        comets_trail
trinket2                        deaths_verdict

totem                           totem_of_electrifying_wind

set_bonus1                      t9_battlegear_4
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         41285

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -

glyph_major1                    feral_spirit
glyph_major2                    stormstrike
glyph_major3                    windfury_weapon

glyph_minor1                    -
glyph_minor2                    -
glyph_minor3                    -

ancestral_knowledge             2/5
improved_shields                3/3
mental_dexterity                3/3
shamanistic_focus               1/1
flurry                          5/5
elemental_weapons               3/3
unleashed_rage                  3/3
weapon_mastery                  3/3
dual_wield_specialization       3/3
mental_quickness                3/3
improved_stormstrike            2/2
static_shock                    3/3
maelstrom_weapon                5/5

convection                      0/5
concussion                      5/5
call_of_flame                   3/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
reverberation                   0/5
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_fury                  5/5
call_of_thunder                 0/1
unrelenting_storm               0/3
elemental_precision             0/3
lightning_mastery               0/5
elemental_oath                  0/2
lightning_overload              0/5
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
shamanism                       0/5

EnhSim version 1.8.2

................................................................................

MH:
miss                251902         9.69%
dodge               280            0.01%
glancing            623257         23.99%
hit                 195372         7.52%
crit                1527674        58.79%
clip                79713          2.98%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          15.20%
procs/swings        13.93%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               80             0.01%
hit                 319305         38.19%
crit                516807         61.80%

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               47             0.01%
hit                 154371         38.23%
crit                249376         61.76%

OH:
miss                253503         9.76%
dodge               266            0.01%
glancing            623384         23.99%
hit                 192557         7.41%
crit                1528773        58.83%
clip                79715          2.98%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1811233        56.02%
crit                1421674        43.98%

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               41             0.01%
hit                 154096         38.17%
crit                249610         61.82%

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 298499         55.99%
crit                234664         44.01%

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               47             0.01%
hit                 185332         38.25%
crit                299155         61.74%

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 215828         56.05%
crit                169251         43.95%

Chain Lightning:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 148169         56.12%
crit                115845         43.88%

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 693217         100.00%
crit                0              0.00%

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               115862         6.48%
glancing            429754         24.03%
hit                 1037424        58.01%
crit                205272         11.48%

Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 49.30

flurry uptime                  98.18%
unleashed rage uptime          0.00%
elemental devastation uptime   83.64%
elemental oath uptime          0.00%

mh enchant uptime              41.50%
oh enchant uptime              37.16%
trinket1 uptime                20.59%
trinket2 uptime                32.45%
totem uptime                   66.84%
set bonus uptime               0.00%
metagem uptime                 0.00%
gloves enchant uptime          0.00%
cloak enchant uptime           0.00%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          0.00      0.00%
mp5                 36.01     12.43%
replenishment       42.71     14.74%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
judgement of wisdom 9.16      3.16%
shamanistic rage    103.72    35.79%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%
stormstrike         98.19     33.88%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2804.68   32.26%    86.62
windfury            1062.32   12.22%    6.97
flametongue         617.89    7.11%     53.88
stormstrike         495.34    5.7%      6.73      37.08     12.20%
lava lash           396.82    4.56%     8.08      22.25     7.32%
magma totem         606.22    6.97%     2.86      53.15     17.48%
earth shock         850.24    9.78%     8.89      57.42     18.89%
lightning bolt      704.78    8.11%     6.42      47.02     15.47%
chain lightning     456.87    5.26%     4.40      83.82     27.57%
lightning shield    380.33    4.38%     1.28      0.00      0.00%
spirit wolves       317.65    3.65%     0.40      3.31      1.09%

DPS                 8693.15
MPS                 304.05
MP2min              36486.14
MRPS                301.14
Out of mana time    0.00%

elapsed simulation time: 1000.00h
elapsed real time: 6.48s
simulation speed: 555212x

A few notes:

BiS weapons are 2.6 speed, not 2.7- lame.

Crit: Fully buffed, we are reaching around 60% melee crit and 43% spell crit during combat. Stat wise that is 40% and 30% respectively.

Reaching hit cap is very easy: with no particular focus on maintaining hit cap, no hit trinket and no hit gems, we reach approximately 360 hit.

We are extremely expertise starved: Only one of our Tier items (hands) has expertise and very little mail gear has expertise on it at all. Under the setup I am currently running, I am having to use 4 Precise Cardinal Rubies, and even then I am 1 expertise below cap. I would not be at all surprised if we were forced to wear 1-2 expertise leather pieces to make up this deficit. The expertise trinket, Victor's Call (83 expertise and a stacking ap buff on use) is a pretty terrible way of making up our expertise deficit since the DPS lost from dropping other trinkets is greater than the benefit that 4x AP gems would provide.

Off-set items are heavy with Armor penetration: under the setup I am currently running, I am sitting at 280 ArP (22%). This is with 0 ArP on any tier gear, and I am currently wearing 4/5.

Comet's Trail remains an extremely powerful trinket: it sims ~80 DPS higher than the new darkmoon style trinket, Death's Verdict (288 AP and 450 agi for 15 secs on proc).

Ehanoro · 08/07/09, 10:54 AM

I am wondering about our BiS OH, I have access to the Tier 2 PvP Weapon, 188.1 Dps, 2.6 Speed, I am wondering if this sims higher than Caress. I cannot test if the wasted Resilience is worth the Dps increase, as my home computer if out of commission at the moment.

If someone could sim that for me I would be very grateful.

Levva · 08/07/09, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Vespasian

I also did some testing around Electrifying Wind vs Quaking Earth and Electrifying Wind comes back a very clear winner. With Tier 8 set bonus is sims ~100 DPS higher than quaking and with Tier 9 bonus it sims ~ 50 DPS higher.

I've just added support for Electrifying Wind to Rawr.Enhance and agree that its massively better than Quaking Earth.

Sylvand · 08/07/09, 4:31 PM

I would take totem sims with a grain of salt. Until we can get folks trying them out in the field I have very low confidence in the actual numbers. I missed 25 man colliseum this week but I'm otherwise on track to replace my Totem of Hex. If folks are leaning one way or the other I don't have a problem picking up the alternate so we can get full testing done ASAP.

Cishir · 08/08/09, 3:01 AM

Hm, interesting read for sure. I have not quite gotten into the swing of min/maxxing quite as hard as you guys have, but I like my current gear set up, although I find my sims favoring haste at the moment.

And yeah, all of this armor pen on offset gear is quite annoying, but I do like the EW Glyph, and it will be the first thing I buy in short order.

Mengus · 08/09/09, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ehanoro

I am wondering about our BiS OH, I have access to the Tier 2 PvP Weapon, 188.1 Dps, 2.6 Speed, I am wondering if this sims higher than Caress. I cannot test if the wasted Resilience is worth the Dps increase, as my home computer if out of commission at the moment.

If someone could sim that for me I would be very grateful.

Just from a pure dps/speed numbers standpoint, not taking into account stats, Caress sims out better than a 195 dps 2.6 speed weapon. Considering the stat allocation on pvp weapons is pretty bad due to the resilience, caress is still the clear winner over any T8/S6 content.

Trollpriest · 08/10/09, 10:38 PM

Pretty slowpoke here but does the theory that t8 4pc > t9 hold any ground? I've never been so unenthusiastic about a content patch so I haven't really been keeping up to scratch on much of anything let alone taking out the time to run sims :\

Sylvand · 08/11/09, 5:00 AM

Originally Posted by Trollpriest

Pretty slowpoke here but does the theory that t8 4pc > t9 hold any ground? I've never been so unenthusiastic about a content patch so I haven't really been keeping up to scratch on much of anything let alone taking out the time to run sims :\

If rawr is any indicator, individual items at 258 could be worth breaking the 4 piece bonus (or nearly so). When you think about switchin 4x 226 for 4x 258 you can probably even make that decision while ignoring what the set bonuses are for T9.

Dahkeus · 08/11/09, 1:08 PM

One small thing to note, which may be obvious to some already is that as BiS is now going to be measured with epic quality gems, you can now use both an Enchanted Tear along with a Nightmare Tear in your gear set. If I'm not mistaken, this would mean that having one of each tears to cover your blue requirement for the meta socket would be the best choice.

Kelrik · 08/11/09, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dahkeus

One small thing to note, which may be obvious to some already is that as BiS is now going to be measured with epic quality gems, you can now use both an Enchanted Tear along with a Nightmare Tear in your gear set. If I'm not mistaken, this would mean that having one of each tears to cover your blue requirement for the meta socket would be the best choice.

I would still think its a good idea to keep a few ap+stam gems on ya just to add more survivability since most of the new encounters deal aoe damage and melee usually gets the majority of it. But depending on what tear u use, those are def a good choice if ur into maxing ur ap out gem wise.

mek · 08/11/09, 6:23 PM

Has anyone obtained Totem of Electrifying Wind on Live yet? I will be picking it up later today, but if I can get confirmation as to its live functionality beforehand, well that would be just dandy.

EDIT: That is enough to confirm that it is indeed BiS for Enhancement and Elemental, thanks.